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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭pad406


    Surprised he's not playing, surely he'd be a shoe in for the Green Jacket 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    Not one bit arsed how expensive it is. I won't be spending my own money. But I certainly wouldn't be headed there on my jollies



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Maybe 1/2% of Russians could afford to go to USA, the rest are concerned with getting food on the table.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,581 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Lutnik is now saying that the semiconductor & electronics exemptions are only going to last a month.

    They are going to be tariffed outside the recipricol tariffs with China.

    Then in a month there is going to be big worldwide tariff announcment on Pharma and semiconductors/electronics.

    What an idiot. Does Lutnik know anything about volatility in the stock market and bonds making anouncements like that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,237 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Isn't creating volatility the whole point? How will Felon47 and his buddies make money otherwise?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,903 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    It's like they're deliberately trying to screw the markets. If you were even mildy cynical you might think it was an insider trading scam.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Lutnik probably believes a month is enough time for all the tech sector to build high tech factories in America and train the workers to screw in the screws.

    I was reading that in China alone, 1 million people work in the apple supply chain. So they are either going to be screwing in the screws according to Lutnik or they will be making state of the art robots who will be screwing in the screws. So much flipping and flopping from him and the administration.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,666 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Trump is now saying there is a 20% tariff on semiconductors, computers and smartphones from China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,581 ✭✭✭10000maniacs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    What a f*cking moron.

    The flip flopping is off the charts, and I'd say at least a part of it is as a consequence of Trump not being able to keep track of what is being said and the rest of them are trying to hide that.

    This is way more disjointed than anything the guy they referred to as Sleepy Joe ever did.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Okay but Bill Maher met him in private and liked him, clearly that negates everything he has done so far...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,047 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    None of them have a clue. And I think the problem probably stems from Trump. Each of the spokespeople I believe actually think what they are saying is what they think Trump has agreed to.

    But it seems that Trump just agrees with whoever is in the room, so there is no policy.

    And that is what is most worrying the markets. There is no plan, no strategy. Just Trump flip flopping depending on the last person he spoke to.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,666 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    These are comments being attributed to Trump, not Lutnick. Here is what Trump has stated tonight on his own Truth social media account.

    NOBODY is getting “off the hook” for the unfair Trade Balances, and Non Monetary Tariff Barriers, that other Countries have used against us, especially not China which, by far, treats us the worst! There was no Tariff “exception” announced on Friday. These products are subject to the existing 20% Fentanyl Tariffs, and they are just moving to a different Tariff “bucket.” The Fake News knows this, but refuses to report it. We are taking a look at Semiconductors and the WHOLE ELECTRONICS SUPPLY CHAIN in the upcoming National Security Tariff Investigations. What has been exposed is that we need to make products in the United States, and that we will not be held hostage by other Countries, especially hostile trading Nations like China, which will do everything within its power to disrespect the American People. We also cannot let them continue to abuse us on Trade, like they have for decades, THOSE DAYS ARE OVER! The Golden Age of America, which includes the upcoming Tax and Regulation Cuts, a substantial amount of which was just approved by the House and Senate, will mean more and better paying Jobs, making products in our Nation, and treating other Countries, in particular China, the same way they have treated us. The bottom line is that our Country will be bigger, better, and stronger than ever before. We will, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

    Lutnick stated this morning that they aren't included in the tariffs. Trump has now flat out contradicted him since he gave that interview. Joke of an administration. Is Trump senile?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,682 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Every time I hear Trump in his whingy, whiney voice talking about other countries 'being very unfair to us', 'treating us very badly', 'taking advantage of us' I feel a bit sorry for the American citizens who talk like reasonable adults, not like small children running to mammy to complain about how they are being treated.

    Leaving aside his capacity for understanding politics or economics or a myriad other things that he has no clue about, can he not hear himself using pouty, childish language - 'its not fair!', 'everyone is being mean to me', how can anyone listen to him and think he has any flicker of intelligence or maturity at all?

    There is nothing 'fair' or 'not fair' about any of it, its just international trade, its up to individual nations to look after themselves in a competitive world, isn't that what Republicans believe individuals should do? How is it different for the country?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭pad406


    Markets are going to be all over the place in the morning.

    Chandler Bing "Could I be any more uncertain"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Please make this stop , this is getting beyond ridiculous, surely there is some legislation in US law that can impeach or reign him in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan


    Fours years of this yet, but this is the US now.

    Supply chains are going to strengthen away from the volatility.

    When the tariffs inflation shock hits the street will be interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Silver lining time.This is who the US are.

    Thanks are due to the all showing,beneficient Trump-Penguin Godhead for making this obvious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,743 ✭✭✭threeball


    Trumps rhetoric is quite dangerous. He has zero diplomacy and he's gets very personal in his comments both towards people and towards countries. There's a good chance he pushes us towards the brink of US-China war and that would drag in half the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,321 ✭✭✭trashcan


    Groceries. That’s a very interesting word. Almost old fashioned. Who uses the term ? Did you know it basically means everything you buy ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭yagan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Covefe



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,015 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If robots, then all those people in the American rust belt might secretly be wishing they'd taken Obama's suggestion of learning to code a tad more seriously. They've been waiting around so long for their local factory or mine to reopen, they could have used that time to do a comp-sci degree by correspondence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭amandstu


    It was "the messages" in Scotland.(well maybe that is "the shopping" generally.)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭amandstu


    They have learned to be political robots in the mean time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    Getting sick of this "Everyone is taking advantage of us" nonsense from MAGA. An estimated 40% of US imports from China are from American corporations, their Chinese subsidiaries or contractors. It's getting ridiculous. Especially considering it's those American corporations who are the ones taking advantage of Chinese slave labour.

    But narratives thrive on emotion, not facts, so breaking this cycle’s tough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Will_I_Amnt


    Screenshot_2025-04-14-01-18-39-684_com.miui.gallery-edit.jpg

    Trumps physical

    He's 6ft 3 and weighs 16 stone

    That would give him a BMI of 28

    Yeah that looks legit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    So the latest messaging is that electronics and medicines must be made in the US for national security reasons and will be subject to non-negotiable tariffs and other actions to bring them back there?

    Not good for Ireland if it all becomes about "national security". They'd probably be happy enough at this stage for Taiwan to get invaded to justify it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,720 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Ireland's Pharmaceutical and Electronics output doesn't necessarily go to the US. It'll hurt, but the market won't do a disappearing act overnight.



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