Candy Cab from rklok.nl - what's your experience

dav09

My first rhythm cab I didn't even see photos from him as it was on a container and difficult to obtain so had to make a decision just to buy it. It was made in 2019 so was almost new and looked mint in fairness when it arrived. Crazy to think prices of rhythm games are like the same price as a lot of candies now. Also he gets a lot of messages/questions and often doesnt have time to respond to everything it seems unless you've bought a few things from him.

geotrig

Same 1st group buy like most back in the pre 2010's were all pretty much blind buys, didn't even see a pic of my e2 before it showed up at my door

littlemegagamer

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Just asking as I built for myself a support for gaming time ago using some left pieces that I had in the garage. Nothing too fancy but handy to use with arcade and racing controller. I can also slide it underneaths the desk… Measures are 600width x 270depth x 660height. So I was thinking to build a support with 2players control panel on top with the same dimension of an Astro City… I just know that the width is 750mm

About the Candy Cab, I didn't open any straight request to Ronnie yet… This Idea to take it apart to bring it to my box room and change again the box room discourage me a bit… (in reality I am trying to convince my wife: She of course think I am crazy to do all this process to get a Cab) …Maybe it is not a good moment yet …will see

littlemegagamer

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Lucky you guys you got one! I like hearing these stories

80s Synth Pop

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Dave, do you know anyone that has an After Burner Climax running and wouldn't mind me swapping out some parts to test them?

Mine works but only in standard mode (very sad, no movement). In deluxe mode it gives a "ABX01 motor drive communication error"

I've replaced:

The lindbergh pc itself

IO board: 837-14505

Motor controller board: 838-14592

Brake relay board: 839-1148R

The only parts I haven't replaced are the serial converter board (389-1258R) and the motor itself (350-5805). Half thinking of bringing the motor to https://www.apexrewinds.ie/

dav09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121962989#Comment_121962989

There are two fairly common issues with them, one definitely is the motion/movement sensors on the side for detection of people stepping off (make sure they're in a line as it gives all sorts of errors if not), as with seatbelt sensor. Pretty sure I played your exact cab when it had motion. Another thing is there is a wheel that sits under the rocket motion, but only one side is used, by loosening it and flipping it around it basically functionally give you another wheel for the motion. I also have a bunch of parts like install disk I/o's, etc, might be worth checking if the motor itself is burned out for the movement. I know a few of them laying around operators warehouses in unknown condition, but might know someone who has one that you could test the parts out of if you need I can ask if they still have it?

80s Synth Pop

Cheers Dave!

Sensors and seat belt are fine as the jvs test menu shows them reacting as inputs.

It used to work 100% fine with motion then one day it gave that "ABX01 motor drive communication error" message. At first the error used to clear after powering off/on a few times but no luck now.

How would you test the motor burning out? (Not 100% on what you mean by flipping it around). If it's the motor that's faulty, they are $450+shipping+import fees from sega USA. Very expensive.

After re-reading what I typed earlier, I realised I should order another serial converter board (389-1258R) so I did from the yatonarcade. He had a motor controller board (838-14592) in stock too so I ordered another one of those aswell. Just have no idea if the replacement parts I've been buying are also faulty.

Apologies for derailing this thread!

o1s1n

Seeing as we're on the subject of candy cabinets, check out this little arcade spot in Germany.

What caught my eye in particular was that little silver cabinet at the very far left. Surely it's not.. it can't be.. a Sega City?

And yes it **** is!!

Not sure what the hell is going on with that control panel but still, the lucky lucky bastards. I was talking to the owner and he said he just got lucky bought it from a collector in Slovakia. I don't have any more space for cabinets but if I found one of these for sale I'd probably manage to squeeze it in somewhere.

dav09

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I've had limited time working on these (although a lot of time working on the original ABDLX).

I was speaking to Andy who owns Arcade Club and from what I gathered and he told me that I think under the cabinet there is a wheel that the cabinet rests on that is the back part of the rocking mechanism, and they had to flip them upside down on their cabs as only one side gets worn out at a time. The issue with these things is they are big awkward cabinets and moving them/ doing much substantial is a pain which is why I've generally stayed clear, and also Lindbergh, although will probably get one eventually. Apparently this were a big source of headaches for a lot of problems with them.

For testing the motor as they're just DC motors, you could apply a current to it and see does it move, and then reverse the polarity to see does it move in the opposite direction just make sure you're applying the correct voltage. These are unusual to burn out and also are often off the shelf items you can find used.

I 99% sure have the 838-14592 if you want to borrow before ordering and pretty sure I have a 389-1258R too if it's what I think it is. 838-14592 I believe is for force feedback and it could be a FFB issue, but going by the manual it is confusing as maybe Sega used that to drive the main motor in this cab?

[DISPLAY] Error ABX01 MOTOR DRIVE COMMUNICATION ERROR
[CAUSE] A motor drive communication error.
[COUNTERMEASURES] Failure to communicate with the control board for seat movement. Check the
cable connecting them.

It sounds like it is not finding the motor drive PCB so either the connection/signal isn't reaching it or the board itself is faulty, which sounds like you're on the right path as long as that PCB does in fact drive the rocker motor. It has loads of other errors listed which it doesn't seem to be so it sounds like it is just not finding that PCB, seeing if it has lights might help too to check it's status.

littlemegagamer

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Have you found one in Ireland?

o1s1n

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Sorry when I said I was 'talking to the owner' I meant through the internet. Nothing like that in Ireland unfortunately. Not out in the wild anyway!

The only time I've heard of someone finding a candy cabinet in the wild in Ireland was a Sega Aero (or was it two?) that I think was out the back of a gambling place in Dublin. Memory is hazy but it was definitely a very weird find.

Any more thoughts yourself on getting in touch with Ronnie?

Have you given consideration to smaller cabinets by the way? Astros are gorgeous but I was just thinking again about you saying it was going in a box room. They're a bit bigger than you'd think, might be a bit of a surprise once it lands. I had an Atomiswave years ago with a 29 inch monitor and it looked absolutely huge in my kitchen.

25 inch cabinets are quite a lot smaller and you might have a bit more luck fitting it into a box room.

dav09

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I know of a small few Namco Noirs, I think from Tekken 6 maybe a location test or something but they were LCD candies in Ireland. Sega Aero's were sold in europe I believe briefly, maybe for fighting games, I know the likes of Troccedero Funland in the UK had a good few and have heard of a few elsewhere. Sega bass fishing was also sold originally in a blast city but I'm not sure if sold in Europe.

geotrig

Think it was a few Astros the place in Dublin had wasn't it? And troc had various cabs but the pony's mkiv are the ones that stick in my head,there was Aeros brought in or sold in Germany ,there was a bunch found in a warehouse in the early 2000's ish memory is hazy on this now ,but they were brand new converted to Deuchmark s so would probably have been brought in early 90s

I kind of discount the noirs tekken etc because there wasnt really anything else for them that I remember same with vewlixs etc Capcom brought in a load for sf4 in the uk.

The only bass fishing I've ever seen was either a bigger deluxe machine or those UK VF style cabs, but I wouldn't discount the blast been about, there definitely seemed to be a was a lot of candy cabs brought into europe in the 90 in some guise s by some arcades .

O1s1n can't say I'd turn down a row of Astros or e2 any day and my aero isn't much different size wise to the other cabs

o1s1n

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Aero is actually much much bigger than standard 25 inch cabinets. The body is more like a 29 inch cabinet. It absolutely dwarfed my other two!

I had many a fun day playing on the Troc Pony IV cabinets. They all ended up in HOG in the UK I believe.

Edit - just to show you what I mean, old photo before I sold the Aero off years ago.

Further edit - found a better photo (God I miss this setup!!!)

Shame I didn't still have the Atomiswave at the time to see a 29 inch cabinet a bit of a size step up again. haha

I'd love to know where in the country that Aero ended up. A young lad came with two mates in a van and I never heard of it again!

littlemegagamer

I love your pictures! You got 3 great cabs! Bravo!
I will contact him when I am ready to go… Buying from him at moment, means be ready just to pay for what he got or is going to get… no negotiation

if I get a cab, I am considering the fact that I will need to take it a part to fit it in the box room… also I will need to change the current layout which is nice and handy… I have to sacrifice two consoles…. And two screens.. anyway, nothing that I wouldn’t do for a cab… Sure, it won’t happen this month :(

What 25inch cab would you recommend… I will do a little research about it… (but the Astro would be my one)

o1s1n

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25 inch monitor cabinets were always more expensive than 29 inch ones as a lot of them are a bit more exotic/rarer. However to be honest, I think relative to a few years ago, the price of more common 'newer' cabinets with 29 inch monitors like Astros/Blasts/Egrets have gone up considerably more than 25 inch cabinets.

The most common 25 inch ones would be SNK models & Sega Aeros. Something like the SNK U4. (So Neo Geo style, its the newer version of my middle cabinet in the above photos). Their build quality is full steel, they're built like a tank. Same with the Sega Aero.

Ronnie had an IREM Madonna 25 inch cabinet for sale last week for under 2k. So actually about the same price as an Astro now.

If your heart is set on an Astro definitely go for that! I'm just a bit biased as I'm into the 25 inch ones and quite like how they fit into small rooms. Nice just to see what your options are.

Check out this gorgeous lineup! Unfortunately most of the cabinets in this photo are quite hard to come by these days. I'd murder for the Domy Jr on the right. You can go even smaller than 25 inches too, the cabinet on the left is a Jaleco Pony II with a 19 inch monitor. Rare as hens teeth unfortunately!

dav09

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Was SFIV ever sold in the UK? I know Tekken 7 was location tested too on Noirs (and had a version where you could play 2P on one PCB) but I know both of them performed poorly and Tekken 7 was pulled. SFIV performed relatively poor in Japan too apparently until Ultra SFIV came out. I think a few sit down Lindbergh candies made it over too back in the day (the Japan ones, I have the dedicated standup one which are common).

I didn't know that but its not surprising. The troc was a key location test too for pretty much every game sold in europe so that probably explains some of the more obscure candies there besides maybe the group of pony's.

o1s1n

I definitely played SF IV in the Troc about 15 years ago. Have some photos knocking about somewhere. But yeah, not sure if that was just a testing location or if the game went on general release. They had a fighting game section in a corner with some modern cabinets and older ones. Had a versus City too which if I remember correctly, was running Third Strike.

o1s1n

I actually vaguely remember seeing a SF IV cabinet in Casino on Goodge Street in London years ago too.

Found an old video of the spot and they have one downstairs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNOYrpiAqdM

geotrig

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Was it sold I don't know for sure , There was a uk tour for SFIV that capcom europe organised to promote the gameand they brought vewlix c's in for it.These where left to the organisers afterwards I believe

There was definitely some in locations throughtout Uk but how/where they got them I don't know, there was a bit of fallout on kc or one of the forums as well afterwards etc as type x2 was hackable I believe(could have been crap security or some ****)!

It was a flop ,1 player machines didn't appeal to many !and most upgraded to super street fighter iv but that wasn't much better ,I would presume troc had it but don't know.

sega uk brought in a good few sit down lindberghs and other **** to be fair.

littlemegagamer

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Areo is cool and about 100mm smaller than the Astro in terms of width… so it will pass through all my doors… but it is still a beast of 110kg, so to bring it up to stairs would be a big problem… I will still need to take it apart… I do love it anyway! Are you selling yours 🤣

Can you fit the CPS2 into it? I can see from your picture it is outside the cab…

Does it come like the Astro with the remote control for the monitor and the socket for the kick harness?

Colonel Panic

The Aero City has a small board to tweak things, yes.

If you have a 6 button panel on it, the kick harness is connected to the extra buttons, then into whatever game you’re using.

And yes, there’s a massive space underneath for any game with a groove for a piece of wood you can screw them to.

o1s1n

I was mid moving PCBs around in that photo, as Colonel Panic was saying, inside is huge.

In the end I actually had six PCBs in it with a Jamma switcher. So I doubt there's any PCB you'd be looking to put in it that wouldn't fit!

Can't actually remember if my one had a remote board for the monitor.

The monitor is actually a little bit bigger than the normal 25 inch ones, think it's actually 26 inches.

They're heavy beasts though alright, smaller than an Astro but 17kg heavier. Just goes to show the difference in build materials between both. I think if you climbed inside an Aero during a nuclear attack you'd survive. 😂

ondafly

a controversial option would be to go with a Unico Nova Blast. They are basically a recreation candy cab with LCDs and would probably work out cheaper than a real candy.

https://www.unico-usa.com/collections/nova-blast-1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QliFLJ6YnA

My personal opinion would be to hold out for what you want. The Astro cities are iconic candy cabinets. They are always somewhere in a Japanese movie or show. They are also pretty straight forward to take apart and that will give you a good chance to clean it etc.

Heres a play list of a French chap who restored his

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSOFFs4llAk&list=PLm9ko_-biSnTtRZ3M0NiNayvCMrBVfXi0

dav09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121973258#Comment_121973258

Lol it's Toby, I know him well nice guy. He was manager at Las Vegas Soho and currently works at the new Electrocoin Funland arcade. I know a good few of those cabs ended up in Las Vegas Soho might still be there, those Street Fighter sit down ones for sure. And it's likely those are former location test machines. I would guess it performed poorly and was scrapped, the promotional tour was probably part of that and console release. I know Tekken 8 didn't go to arcades but there is a promo tour for that around the UK at the minute.

When you take out the monitor in candy cabinets a lot of them become very light, just make sure you can fit it up the stairs/ through doors. Those big electrocoin cabs (Goliaths and 25" bigger ones) were mental weight all together in comparison, had to move 15 of them off a van and into a place once, a dramatic experience lol.

KeRbDoG

Vewlix cab being mentioned before in the thread, maybe thats an alt instead of a candy cab - I wouldn't mind one tbh

littlemegagamer

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I would always go for an original Astro.

In general, retrogaming for me is only on CRT…

littlemegagamer

My big concern is that I will have to dismantle it and then assemble it again in the box room… and in the case, I will need to move it, I will need to dismantle it again… Now, it is not a big deal to do that except for the separation of the two halves, because the screws at the base section can be extremely stubborn… I wouldn't want to damage it. It would be good to find one that has been already dismantled.

Or maybe I need just to wait to renovate my home :-)

geotrig

ok, your not going to find one already dismantled in reality theres quite a few cands in Ireland but they dont move about too often ,if you do i'll eat my socks !!, secondly ,leave it down stairs for a week or two :P , test it out and get to know what's what before you pull it apart Astros are easy take apart but sometimes those bolts for the sides just don't want to come apart , you are new to all this so its just a bit of advise

29" monitors are a bitch to pull out and put back into a machine **** 20/25" are awkward enough depending on the machines at the best of times, last thing you want to do is neck the monitor ,at least AC iirc have them in a cage to help a little though.

all this is hypothetical untill you ask Ronnie the bloody question of what he has !!

Colonel Panic

Leave it downstairs until your wife gets used to it and stops nagging!

I had to carry my Aero City through my house and up some garden steps, and up more steps to put it in the shed. Got my brother in law to help.

You're gonna have to:

a) Accept that Ronnie is your best bet
b) It's gonna cost you