Trans Women's Milk Just as good as mothers breast milk - threadbans in OP

Jack Daw

Seeing as the wokeism of the day thread was taken down I guess I have to start a new thread for this

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/trans-woman-milk-breastfeeding/

What utter lunacy, the fact that the NHS have come out and said this just shows you how the lunatics appear to now be running the asylum.This kind of nonsense once again really doesn't help trans people's cause at all it just makes all trans activism look like the work of a bunch of loons when Im sure the vast majority of transgender people would just like to get on with their lives in peace and not be linked with these nutters who promote this type of nonsense.There is also clearly a large degree of misogyny attached to issues like this as a alot of activists on behalf of transgender women seem to hate the fact that real women are different than them and have unique characteristics they will never possess,

Threadbans:

lawred2

Cordell

jmayo

Hande hoche!

I did not know you could drugs to induce lactation. Every day is a school day.

elperello

Not surprised to see Policy Exchange and LBC are leading the charge.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058336906/trans-womens-milk-just-as-good-as-mothers-breast-milk

What’s your background in pediatric medicine, boss?

DarkJager21

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788670#Comment_121788670

Doesn't need a paediatric background, to suggest male induced lactation is anything equivalent to female breast milk is **** laughable, it doesn't even deserve a second thought.

Coolcormack1979

And they give out about natural milk from cows used in baby formula is bad.well at least it’s not produced using hormones and drugs.

GSBellew

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788732#Comment_121788732

You do know that female lactation is triggered by hormones too?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788718#Comment_121788718

So plebeian scoffing. How original and intellectually stimulating. I’ll go with the medical researchers observing they are and I quote “comparable”

Theres already a few transphobe panic threads. Anyway:

https://youtu.be/rxaQsBXJRcs?si=EOaX5hE5hMnDkWji

DarkJager21

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788757#Comment_121788757

Grand, let them do a long term analysis before they spout such ridiculous conclusions. I'd wager there's zero colostrum being produced for one, just another poor imitation of the real thing.

Jack Daw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788754#Comment_121788754

Those are real natural hormones though.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788732#Comment_121788732

Yes, cows are never given hormones and drugs

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788718#Comment_121788718

Why not? If produced by the same hormones?

foxsake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788757#Comment_121788757

plebeian scoffing , thanks for a new term btw.

plebeian scoffing ? stupid proles - shush now the PhDs are talking.... this type of deferring to authority ignore a gut instinct honed through millennia of experience is pathetic. should we just swallow it all and continue with the bread and circuses.

stupid

Jack Daw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788757#Comment_121788757

Doctors thought in the past (and for quite a long period aswell) that Lobotomies were a good method of dealing with mental health problems, it was considered to be a wonder treatment.Thankfully those doctors were proven wrong.

If anyone think a synthetic and artificially generated substance is better than the real deal then they aren't being honest.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788773#Comment_121788773

Droll. Go refute the studies their letter cites. The letter and studies this “reporting” didn’t bother to cite.

DarkJager21

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788794#Comment_121788794

I'm apathetic to it - let them show proof it's the same as they claim or piss off. I'm not taking the word of some NHS group neck deep in an agenda - they can show us scientific proof including long term studies or shut it, it's that easy.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788812#Comment_121788812

LOL considering the report displayed zero proof of its own of this alleged letter the burden first rests with them.

Coolcormack1979

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788779#Comment_121788779

Well I milk cows and they most certainly don’t get any hormones to produce milk.and they only get antibiotics if needed not like the lies peddled in the anti farmer media

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788792#Comment_121788792

Doctors thought in the past (and for quite a long period aswell) that Lobotomies were a good method of dealing with mental health problems, it was considered to be a wonder treatment.Thankfully those doctors were proven wrong.

And what was the plebian groupthink at the time? Weak deflection.

If anyone think a synthetic and artificially generated substance

This doesn't describe human male lactation. They aren't androids, Jack, they're people.

Feisar

How did we end up here?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788853#Comment_121788853

Do you milk all the cows, everywhere, all the time, like a cow-milking Santa Claus?

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788787#Comment_121788787

but you're happy to swallow a 'news' report with no actual news in it, evidence or citation of the underlying facts it references:

The letter was leaked to the Policy Exchange think tank.

Where is it?

SouthWesterly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788869#Comment_121788869

Prepare for it to get worse.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788869#Comment_121788869

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788887#Comment_121788887

Can you spare just a crumb of context please

DarkJager21

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788863#Comment_121788863

"It also references a 2022 study that found “milk testosterone concentrations” were under 1 per cent with “no observable side effects” in the babies. The study lasted for five months and no long-term data was obtained.

For a person born male to breastfeed, they must develop milk-producing glands by taking the hormone progestin.

A drug is required to lactate, such as domperidone, which is often prescribed to women struggling to breastfeed, and helps to stimulate the production of prolactin – a separate hormone that tells the body to produce milk.

Domperidone, also known by the brand name Motilum, was not intended for this, but is prescribed off-label by doctors, despite the manufacturer, Janssen, itself recommending against it because of possible side effects to a baby’s heart."

So no scientific merit at all to make the claim they did, referencing a 5 month study with no long term data collected, and involving the off brand use of a medicine even the producers of it have warned against.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788853#Comment_121788853

But cows are given hormones are they not?

Jack Daw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788873#Comment_121788873

Well I imagine he doesn't milk male cows (unless he's a weirdo) , which is exactly what this trans women milk is akin to.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788905#Comment_121788905

All said without evidence all dismissed without evidence.

Where is the manufactures own longitudinal study on the side effects to babies of Domperidone? Double standards afoot

The 'report' from this blog doesn't even mention progestin or domperidone, where are you pulling this out of?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788732#Comment_121788732

Er eh .. news.. it is used by hormones/drugs

Edit - got wrong end of stick 🤣

MarkR

So the article is saying that a person who was born male, and transitioned to female, can through the use of various drugs produce milk in sufficient quantities to feed a baby?

And I'm STILL bald?

Science is amazing.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121788940#Comment_121788940

What medical attention have you seen about affirming your scalp identity?