SUV v Saloon

alias no.9

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786034#Comment_121786034

diesel guzzling SUV

Hyperbole much, it's a choice between a Skoda Octavia or Peugeot 5008, fuel consumption is broadly comparable for equivalently powered models, about 60mpg in old money for the lower power output diesels, you'd swear the OP was considering a Humvee over a Renault Twizzy with your hysteria

Speedline

Liftback/hatchback or estate. You'll fit a hell of a lot into a lift back with the seats down. A saloon is fairly restrictive if you often carry awkward loads.

Suvs are for women and old men imo.

kgroarke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121781193#Comment_121781193

Don't need the extra seats right now but could do if we have a third child. I like the skoda superb/octavia sportline models, but you give up the higher drive position.

There is a roughly 5k difference in price in a 2021 year between the 5008 and superb/octabia SL so u suppose it comes down to whether it would be worth the extra money.

Would also have concerns about the resale value of the 5008 if I were to clock up 50-60k miles and need to sell it on in 3 or 4 years. I think the skoda or Vw could hold up better possibly...?

kgroarke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121785491#Comment_121785491

Interesting comparison.

Not a huge difference in economy either, main difference seems to be you pay slightly more for the same year in the bigger 5008 ... and for that you get a huge boot (with 5 seats only in use) and higher driving position. You do get slightly less mpg but not by much as most will be motorway miles.

So Really it comes down to preference as I don't think I will be saving the planet by choosing the estate/saloon!

alias no.9

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121786331#Comment_121786331

Yeah, there's more air inside the 5008, achieved with a higher roof but otherwise there's very little to differentiate between them. Given a choice of which I'd want to drive with no other constraints, it'd probably be the Skoda but we all have constraints. Just remember on the load space, it's only in the height that you gain, length and width is much the same.

Not really a fan of SUV styling but have been very appreciative of the high seating position in the past but in an MPV, I sold an e39 BMW at the time because I couldn't get in and out of it, thankfully I've made a good recovery.

Bosco26

Thanks @Clo-Clo

If I was to go ahead with the Superb with 122 BHP, would any of you forsee a lack of power for over taking on country roads for example. It is a heavy car. Would the 1.6 petrol be quicker in this aspect? Thanks

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121790438#Comment_121790438

I would go for the bigger engine. I had a Passat a few years ago and it struggled, I actually found fuel usage was higher because of the lack of power. I moved up to the higher engine and it was a lot smoother and easier. Now that was a long time ago but it is not always necessary to go with a smaller engine to save fuel.

Especially if you need a bit of poke to get around tractors etc on back roads. I know all about that in our area as you have limited passing spots.

Best to run it for a test drive and see how they go. Just keep in mind what sort of driving you do, also with kids I bring along the car seats and chuck them into the back, even if not connecting, just for no surprises

I also brought a pram once, we had the Out n About Double and feck the sales man took some look at me when I was throwing it into the boot but I had to liev with the car

goochy

122 bhp is too little for a big car .

Spook_ie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121785491#Comment_121785491

Not as the driver of an SUV or X-Over I find the height of them to be an absolute pain, and do think it's a self fulfilling problem. As more people find they can't see over the bonnet of the SUV that pulls alongside and blocks their view the more they decide that they want an SUV X-Over. Why not all just drive minibuses?

djan

Ignore the sh!te spouted about the big bad SUVs, the 5008 you're also considering has pretty much same footprint, weight and consumption will be more drivetrain dependent even if the 5008 is less aerodynamic. I would go for the Superb estate in a high spec as it will be a more premium car and hold it's value much better. If most of your driving is motorway, go for the 2L diesel and you'll get great mix of driveability and low consumption.

kgroarke

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121791512#Comment_121791512

Having considered it...this is also my thinking, especially if I were to put up higher miles on the peugot 5008. I think the skoda and vw in general hold their value better. There isn't actually much different in boot space between the estate superb and the hatchback...only 35 litres. Would nearly sway me more toward the hatch for the better looks

alias no.9

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121791214#Comment_121791214

No doubt if a Cadillac Escalade pulls up beside you, you would have a point but your arrow is pretty meaningless, if you can over the steering wheel of an Octavia, you can see over the bonnet of the Peugeot 5008 beside you, the top of the door mirror of the Octavia comes up to the top of the bonnet of the 5008.

Spook_ie

It was more pointing at the general heights of an SUV not just the bonnet. The entire car will block your view when it pulls up beside you. And then you have to contend with trying to look through two layers of privacy glass in the rear windows. Whole things should be charged double for everything.

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121780454#Comment_121780454

100%. None better.

alias no.9

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121793714#Comment_121793714

Right, because saloons and hatchbacks never come with a tint in the rear, your argument just doesn't stand up to much scrutiny.

djan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121793714#Comment_121793714

Why do you need to see through a car and what do you do with MPVs, buses, vans etc.? Take USA for example, I drove over 5,000km in a Mustang convertible and had no issues not seeing through or over their proper massive SUVs. It's really a non issue, especially as Ireland has very few actual SUVs on the road with most being crossovers.

Regarding the OPs decision it really should boil down to whether ease of getting into the car and slightly better visibility is more important than lower fuel consumption, better handling and usually cheaper brakes/tyres as wheels and weight tend to be lower.

galwaytt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121780886#Comment_121780886

technically an MPV is better than both.