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Simple Minds Point Depot 18th March

  • 18-01-2024 8:57am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭


    my curiosity is more about the Point itself and why do they setup like they do regarding standing and seated configuration sometimes?

    I wanted to go myself but I'd be the sort to only ever want Standing and when the tix went on sale originally the Standing seemed gone instantly, hmm.

    later on chatting to someone about it who claimed to know sez that the area given over for standing apparently was configured very very small for this gig

    I'm a bit surprised at this as they are a stadium band, kinda doesn't fit their style, really I would have thought most going would want standing

    now I'm hearing ads all over the radio pushing the gig, clearly its undersold....and indeed when u go on Ticketbsd you can see tons of seated tix available

    **entirely different matter maybe and I like SM and would love to see them but also taking into account here that the pricing seems WAY too expensive, not surprised its not a sellout like..**

    but back to the main question: is the Standing vs Seating configuration in the Point deliberate for some reason I can't really understand or is it a potential fupp up on part of whomever decides these things (band, agents, The Point....?)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,728 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Seating configuration is decided between promoter and agent. Between them they agree the set up and thus number of tickets available and the different pricing of tickets.

    the seating configuration for 3 arena can be broadly changed downstairs from either a) fully standing b) no standing at all or c) small standing area and seats.

    artists themselves through the agent stipulate the kind of set up they want. If they want an all seated show then promoter will arrange.

    the type of music and demographics of the audience are key into decision of set up.

    would hazard a guess that for simple minds whose main audience is probably in their 50’s that they decided that a set up that was nearly all seats would suit their audience best.

    to note simple minds Belfast show had no standing tickets whatsoever.

    As for ticket prices they seem to range from €50 to €90 or so for seats.

    for an arena show this isn’t totally unusual



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭Beagslife


    I'd imagine their VIP pricing (€120+ to €360+) for quite a swathe of seats is a big factor with the unsold seats. Probably some fans holding out to see what happens with them.

    Age demographic is obviously a factor. Someone rocking out to them in Croke Park in 1986 mightn't be so nimble in 2024 😎



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Point Depot ???

    We're reeling back the years on this one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭scruff monkey
    Snarky Snark Snark


    The Point, Lansdowne Road and The Olympia are perfectly cromulent names for venues for those of us that reject the commercialisation of venue nomenclature.


    Not a Gaa fan but supervalu can get in the sea too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭martco


    yep

    I completely and utterly despise this modern branding bollocks too

    for me its The Point, Landsdowne Road, The Olympia, Grafton St etc. and I'll deliberately call them by the name they were given until I'm in the ground

    also not gaa but glad to see the Supervalu wheeze getting clipped, its cheap nonsense



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭Jizique


    One absolutely classic gig, around a decade ago, was SM in Olympia for the 5x5 tour which focused on the early albums; the Point in 2024 at these prices, nein danke - sit at home and watch the classic stuff on YouTube for 40 years ago



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭martco


    err well excuse me!! 😋 still able to lepp with the best of them

    the Minds at Croker in '86..I'd just finished the Leaving Cert and was me first ever proper gig as it happens...I'll never forget it and the energy and I reckon it set me up for a lifetime of gig and interest in live music. passed it on to my kid too, we goto gigs and festivals when we can like some travel over for football matches, we're deep in the hundreds now

    and yeah the pricing is pants. I don't know anyone with that kind of disposable income.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,728 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Quick look on ticketmaster and Belfast show is doing very well, looks like somewhere around 7000 tickets sold or so.

    they did 3 arena in 2022 so probably slightly too soon for a return to the 3 arena



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Simple Minds Rockpalast Cologne from 1982 on YouTube, 90 mins at their peak, also various Dortmund gigs.

    The German networks took this seriously back then and did proper recording jobs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭Beagslife


    Weren't the pyrotechnics well ahead of their time (forked lighting storm) ⚡

    I was actually there for the Waterboys, but the main show certainly lives on in my memory 🎸

    Rock on



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭martco


    ah! the lightening was pretty special alright, if I recall there were plenty around me wondering if it was some new kinda pyrotechnic trick...nowadays there'd have been some americanized Govt yellow alert podium session on the telly and due to Heath & Safety something something we'd have been shut down lol

    I can remember bits of the Waterboys and some Lloyd Cole. had a couple in me early on but wasn't hammered for Simple Minds which was a great (accidental) call on my part ;)

    rock on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,832 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    More seats than standing in 2022 concert . Nit enough . People getting usual guff for dancing in the aisles ( 😁) I suppose fire regs ?

    We have standing tickets for March as a result .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭martco


    yah I'm keeping eyes peeled on likes of toutless for a result I guess

    its all a bit weird, if u go on Ticketbsrd there's shedloads of expensive seated tickets some are eyewatering, not resale either straight original prices (maybe I'm wrong but I can't see them selling)

    I'd have no interest in seated anyway (exactly per what you said, I HAATE THAT) so I'll just keep an eye out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    I wonder what they do when they over-price tickets. Which it seems they have for this one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,728 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Platinum/vip tickets will be changed into standard tickets closer to the concerts.

    standard ticket prices won’t change



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭hold my beer



    Would they leave it half empty if not selling?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,728 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    They will just curtain off the back half of the 3 arena, upgrade people tickets to closer to the front.

    they have just done that for the smile aka Radiohead side project in the 3 arena.

    At most mcd might give radio stations/media outlets and journalists/friends of friends tons of tickets for giveaways and competitions.

    i see €52 is cheapest price for simple minds. They aren’t going to discount that. They might change more tickets to that price in the days leading up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭Kilteragh



    There was a mass giveaway for Duran Duran last year at €5 per ticket but I guess that isn't the norm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    They also gave away a load of freebies for the second night of Arcade Fire last time they played here. I nabbed a couple of standing tickets thanks to an eagle eyed boardsie alerting us here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,728 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Yeah, they might paper freebies off.

    publicly announced discounts like Duran Duran or student discounts rates they did for kanye/Jay z are extremely rare as it makes the artist and promoter look bad. They prefer to quietly give away tickets in that situation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭martco


    I wonder is that is also why they don't do a seat dot map for the Point? (visually you would see the swathes of empty seats)

    all those 50 quid tickets are right at the back in the gods...and in that shed you would be much better off staying outside and listening in over a pair of tin cans and string lol

    anyways I'll wait n see if any standing turn up, if they do they do, if they don't I'll catch them another time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,728 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Seat selection is never open for 3 arena shows. national stadium and liberty hall only ones than come to mind with seat selection on for some shows



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,832 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Simple Minds filled 3 Arena in 2022 and no doubt if they reduce the silly priced tickets, will again .

    Don't see them in the same category as Duran Duran , but mind you some of the concertgoers had tickets from, was it 2020 gig? that was cancelled due to Covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Any updates on pricing and availability? Monday night after a Bank Holiday sounds like a hard sell



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭tom23


    have my tickets for this (christmas present) can’t wait for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Shakyfan


    Still waiting for the ticket transfer thing to open! At least with paper tickets if you had a ticket for someone you could get it to them before the night of the show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭bullpost


    Was at it. One of best gigs I've been to. And I was stone cold sober as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭martco


    just to let anyone know who's interested...

    Tiktbstrd have released more Standing tickets, they've been available now for a few days

    so I'm getting to go (but it's at the absolute limit of my pocket tbh)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Shakyfan


    If anyone needs to transfer tickets they have finally opened that option!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭emo72


    What time they on stage at



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    Looking on Ticketmaster earlier tonnes of tickets left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭Shakyfan


    Going by setlist.fm they have gone on around 8.30 on each of the 2 prvious shows and finished around 10.20 / 10.25



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭RolandGoose


    Why are Ticketmaster still trying to flog already overpriced tickets at inflated dynamic rates, supposedly based on demand, when the gig is far from sold out, with seemingly little or no demand!!?

    Their grotesque and unethical practices surely have turned a lot of people off the idea of going, and quinched any chance of people picking up last minute tickets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,728 ✭✭✭Fanirish


    Nothing dynamic showing for me, just a bunch of tickets at €91 in the centre blocks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    loads of tickets available for belfast tomorrow if you have missed out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 The nighthawk


    Really enjoyed the concert. Waterfront is a great opener and they had the crowd in the palm of their hand with Don't you forget about me with everyone in the seats on their feet through the extended "La la la" section.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Brilliant gig. Was way busier than I expected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Who was Jim talkin about when he mentioned a salubrious neighbour in Killiney? When he mentioned him not being who we think it was, and being a solo artist, I thought of Van Morrisson?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭RolandGoose


    Glad to hear it was a good gig.

    Did they play "Big Sleep"?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 The nighthawk


    I was thinking Van Morrison as well as Jim wasn't very complimentary and Van has quite the reputation for having a difficult personality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Nah. We’re acknowledging that while businesses can pay to stick their name over the door, we can still call the place what it’s called. Lansdowne road, Olympia, and the Point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    You can call it whatever you want. But you'd be incorrect. Like I can call you "Larry". But I would be wrong (unless of course your name is actually Larry).

    Lansdowne Road was demolished. The Aviva is a completely different building.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Not quite. If Larry paid to have me named Larry, you’d have a point! Not a 3 Arena mind you. A Point!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭Chelon


    First time at a Minds gig last night. They played well but it was SO FECN LOUD. I had to retire to the bar after about an hour and even then it was still deafening. My 4 companions thought the same. Very uncomfortable experience. Is this a one off or do they always play so loud?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Aladdin Sane


    First time seeing SM last night. No idea why I haven’t seen them before. Excellent show with fantastic sound. Some of my shots below…




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,839 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    3arena can be loud. I always bring cheap foam earplugs these days just in case. Pop them in when it's too much. Can still hear the music and gives my ears a break



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭Chelon


    We were sitting centre front and I cannot agree that the sound was good. Apart from the ear bleeding volume the keyboards (a big part of SM sound) got totally swamped by the overdriven bass at times. Example would be one of my favourites, Hunter & the Hunted; you could hardly hear the keyboards which are a huge part of that song on record.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭Chelon


    I've been to so many gigs at "the point" (as I prefer lol) and the only other one almost as loud was Brit Floyd; I moved to the upper seats and it was then ok. Last night even in the bar my ears were throbbing, it took all the pleasure out of the gig for me and at 100 quid that really wasn't great...



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