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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,248 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Therefore, if you want right of way - start to cross!

    I'll buy that for a dollar.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,527 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    to confirm, the rule is a 'should' and not a 'must':

    Take extra care at junctions. You should… give way to pedestrians crossing or waiting to cross a road into which or from which you are turning. If they have started to cross they have priority, so give way (see Rule H2)

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/using-the-road-159-to-203#rule170



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,154 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    there was a big hoo-haa over this in the UK, the very idea that a driver should wait for a pedestrian! There were claims it was putting pedestrians at risk because most drivers would be unable to grasp such an outlandish concept (much like the idea that it is physically impossible to drive a car as slow as 30km/h)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    The Gardai use Cellebrite for some criminal investigations; I'm not sure if that extends to this type of case but without it or similar I'm not sure how detailed phone examination is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,826 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Just on the first part of your post, I couldn't agree more and have tried to say as much countless times on this thread.

    The reality as I see it (i.e. anecdotal evidence only) is this;

    1. Pretty much every adult in the country either drives every day or has a driving licence but for various reasons doesn't drive regularly.
    2. Pretty much everyone in the country now sees car ownership as a basic right and minimum indicator of being a successful/ functioning adult.
    3. Pretty much every person tasked with drafting legislation, chairing road safety committees, passing legislation, prosecuting offences against the legislation and adjudicating on prosecutions is a driver.
    4. Pretty much every driver in this country regularly either speeds, drink drives, drug drives, uses their phone while driving or breaks red lights.
    5. Therefore pretty much all the relevant stakeholders, when considering proposals or requests to punish bad driving or make it more difficult to get away/ commit bad driving, see it through the lens of "but jesus, shur I do that".
    6. Therefore there's lots of talk, reports, thoughts and prayers - because everybody must openly admit the scourge of all the offences named above - but nothing actually happens.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,527 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    And that's why judges don't come down hard on 'good' citizen drivers who haven't set out with a wilful intent. It's a 'there but for the grace of God go i' response.



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