Meanwhile on the Roads...

Kaisr Sose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122611624#Comment_122611624

Is the learning for both to change how they deal with similar scenarios in future? Cyclist should not expect others to follow rules and then ignore same.

As reported, the garda appears to not to want to deal with the motoring offences reported by cyclist. That is biaed and substandard policing. If the video footage was sufficient to support issuing a FCPN to the cyclist for passing a red light, it should also have been good enough to issue FCPN for the motoring ones. It would be good to know if FCPN were issued for these.

This case study probably highlights the inconsistent manner in which some members of AGS respond to so called minor traffic offences (such as parking motor vehicles on cycle lanes and footpaths) Turning a blind eye (which I regularly see) sends the wrong message to entitled motorists at a time AGS are supposed to be spending more time on roads policing.

magicbastarder

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1835259262618181681

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zell12

A cyclist in his 50s has died in a road incident in Cloonchambers, Castlerea. Gardaí are investigating all the circumstances around the discovery of the body of a cyclist at approximately 02:00

https://www.roscommonherald.ie/news/cyclist-dies-in-county-roscommon-road-incident_arid-31661.html

secman

RIP to the person above

secman

Reading about this new initiative by Dublin City Council, ?

"Traffic lights across the city centre will now have a flashing amber arrow for left-turning vehicles at junctions to remind Irish drivers that cyclists have priority when turning left or continuing straight ahead.

loyatemu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122620304#Comment_122620304

it's been in place at the Lombard St. junction for some time and most drivers just turn without looking. If I'm going straight through there, I'll hang back to make sure I don't get left-hooked.

flatty

Im not so sure. As a cyclist you'd be absolutely mad to assume that it's safe to proceed straight ahead because you have right of way over a left turning vehicle. Whilst it behoves all motorists to take extreme care, some cyclists move really fast, especially those on e bikes, and the cyclist if going straight ahead should be at least in the middle of the lane, and preferably towards the right. A flashing orange may be a reminder, but it's just as likely to be interpreted as a "watch traffic from your right".

monkeyslayer

Definitely try dominate the lane in such junctions if possible. In my experience the really dangerous incidents I've encountered with left turning vehicles are the ones that suddenly come from the behind, not so much the ones already in front, they're probably assuming that if you're already far left that that is your intended direction. Probably best to just assume the ones already in front are going left until you're pretty certain they're not.

loyatemu

most of the existing junctions with flashing ambers have cycle lanes, so there's no option to take the lane if you're already in the cycle lane. The flashing amber is to warn drivers to yield to traffic in the cycle lane.

Ultimately you've got to keep your eye on the traffic to your right and judge whether they're going to yield; if you're used to cycling in the city you're probably already doing this, but less experienced cyclists may not be so aware…

CramCycle

Experience has taught me that where possible, it is easier to move out to the right of the left turn lane. Easy to say when you are confident though. Didn't do it in Donnybrook the other day though and it probably saved me. Had a car come across a taxi and then straight into me, thankfully I realised and put the foot down to escape at the main Donnybrook junction. Just swerved from the middle lane, across the bus and bike lane. Taxi driver swerved left and dropped anchor, I dropped the hammer when I realised I was about to eb run over and still don't know how I wasn't. Driver was oblivious and just had a blank look on their face wondering why I looked white as a a ghost and why the Taxi driver was beeping him.

secman

Whilst driving yesterday , entering a roundabout, the car in the lane to my left entered roundabout as I did and immediately turned into my lane without looking, had to jam on and beeped horn, he was oblivious to what he had done and was gripping the steering wheel and looked very anxious about being on a roundabout, had an N plate. Must mention it was Walkinstown roundabout.

Twice a week I negotiate that roundabout commuting in and home on the bike.

flatty

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122624424#Comment_122624424

Yep, which is why I always get out of the cycling lane at the last opportunity if necessary, either that, or assume the cars in front are as likely to turn left as go straight, and right of way irrespective, won't have seen me or won't have even thought to look.

In a car, my automatic assumption about a flashing orange filter is to watch for traffic from the right. Wrong assumption clearly, but it's my first thought.

zell12

🙄🙄 Share the road with the 230,000 L platers, they say

https://www.thejournal.ie/crackdown-on-long-held-provisional-licenses-scrapped-over-fears-of-longer-test-waiting-lists-6495592-Sep2024/

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122648472#Comment_122648472

We don't want these unqualified and unlicenced drivers jamming up the qualification system so we'll just let them continue to drive unqualified?

Steoller

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122648522#Comment_122648522

Is there anything to be said for another amnesty?

what_traffic

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122648472#Comment_122648472

Officials = RSA or Dept of Transport ?

JMcL

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122651701#Comment_122651701

Strictly speaking the RSA wouldn't be "officials" I'd think - quango maybe? Anyway I think they can only make policy recommendations, not actual policy. Then again, "official" might be getting used in a loose sense in the article.

Paddigol

Thought there was a specific thread for the new traffic flow system in Dublin city centre? Was it one of the disappeared threads or am I a) blind or b) imagining things?

Anyway… seems the initial results are overwhelmingly positive and encouraging for bettered shared space in the city centre…

Private car use in Dublin city drops significantly due to traffic plan on quays | Irish Independent

Seth Brundle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122652500#Comment_122652500

voila…

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058345866/new-bus-gates-on-bachelors-walk-and-aston-quay

Paddigol

Thanks! Feel free to move my post…

Seth Brundle

The AA have created an inforgraphic on driver behaviour where they seem to have questioned drivers from fantasy-land…

https://www.theaa.ie/blog/road-safety-survey-2024/

magicbastarder

it's not April 1st, lads.

Mefistofelino

To paraphrase Blackadder :"Ah, yes, without question my favourite motorist surveys; soft, strong and thoroughly absorbent"

Paddigol

HA! I needed a good laugh this morning.

Mefistofelino

Motorists: We're wonderfully behaved and courteous.

Also motorists: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0927/1472239-intoxicated-driving/

knockoutned

I wonder what the chart would look like if it was based on observation and not on people pretending they are saints when on the road

Niall145

Just to change the subject a bit, is Cruagh Road heading up to the Viewpoint/Military road completely blocked off? According to Google Maps its closed till 30 November.

Enduro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122660193#Comment_122660193

It wasn't last Sunday, but the bit of Tibradden Road marked as closed does reflect the reality on the ground (and will be close for another few weeks, apparently)

Large bottle small glass

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122658888#Comment_122658888

Courts/society really struggle with belligerent repeat offenders be they psychopathic cnuts or addicts or whatever( or Enoch).

A local man where I grew up killed a child on a bicycle. Got some Mickey mouse sentence, was out within weeks and just started driving.

He just kept pushing and the gardai just system yielded.

Alcoholics/drug addicts seem to get treated the same with shoplifting and the like, and it seems driving.

In fairness even a perfect criminal justice can't fix dysfunction in a society and ours is a long way from perfect

Wishbone Ash

Cyclist with a death wish between Balbriggan and Naul tonight cycling against the flow of traffic. That road isn't particularly pleasant even when cycling on the correct side. I was in the car and at first thought it was a pedestrian with a torch. I had to slow down to almost a stop as visibility was poor with the continuous flow of car headlights coming against me. (For those not familiar with it - busy rural road with no footpaths/hard shoulder).