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Jeffrey Epstein documents unsealed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 846 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    I can't stand Aaron Rodgers I hope he gets all his NFL millions and sh*tty commercial monies sued away from him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,649 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,674 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Yeah it's nonsense, everyone knows it was Marilyn Manson who had his rib removed lol


    Anyway is there anything new in this list? Most of these names have been in the public domain for years. Not a chance any actual shocking or high up people will ever be revealed. Afaik there's still a lot of "redacted" in there. A few will be thrown to the wolves, same as always



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,332 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I saw Naomi Campbell has released a statement or is it an older statement rereleased



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Sorry, I meant in general. Not aimed at you specifically.

    A lot of those celebs had documented dealings with him in the past, due to his position as a financial advisor so I find it wrong for anyone to just be throwing **** at people who had no involvement, that we know of, in his antics elsewhere. Again, a general statement. Not aimed at anyone.

    But, I also said, I'm nearly certain they all knew what he was up to and, for whatever reason, kept their mouth shut



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭LilacNails


    No prob :)

    I know what ur saying, tbh I can't imagine MJ going out there for any action, wouldn't be surprised if his name was thrown in with no evidence or facts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316


    There was a journalist from the NY Times who done a deal with Weinstein back in 2017 or something, that basically was he'd print fabricated stories about Jackson and some other celebs, to distract from Weinstein's antics. That's a fact. It's not speculation. It came out at the time the stuff about Weinstein came out.

    Basically, it's one giant cauldron of ****. That world is beyond murky. Like, why are the media talking about Jackson going to his house once, when nothing happened, as stated and nothing is been said about Clinton or the rest? Why is Jimmy Kimmel not being mentioned and his plans to sue whoever mentioned his name?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,796 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Jimmy Kimmel isn't being mentioned because Jimmy Kimmel was only brought into the whole thing by an NFL player called Aaron Rodgers saying Kimmel would be nervous when Epstein files are released, even though there has never been any evidence of Kimmel being in any way associated with Epstein. Rodgers was more likely saying it because a) Kimmel has joked about Rodger's conspiracy nonsense before on his show, and b) there were fake lists being circulated for the past few weeks with all sorts of different names on them likely including Kimmel. So Kimmel threatened to sue Rodgers if he makes another claim that Kimmel is/was involved with Epstein or is named in the Epstein files.

    If Kimmel is mentioned in Epstein files, then he should be discussed. Until then though, maybe it's not wise to take the word of a conspiracy nut who basically gets hit in the head professionally.

    Anyone mentioned in the Epstein files should come forward and explain their association and dealings with Epstein.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,026 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    I flicked through 900-odd pages from the first release. Has there been anything new (and significant) to actually come out from this we didn't know yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    More revelations now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,649 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Yeah, it's a certain type of person who goes around calling people they don't like pedos.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,866 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Hopefully this is true, I'd say there's many a rich person sweating tonight.

    "Epstein secretly recorded sex tapes of Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton and Richard Branson, court documents claim"







  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,935 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    Prince Andrew won’t be sweating tho.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,866 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    One wonders what the Trump fans will have to say about the accusations.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,975 ✭✭✭buried


    No way this gadge was a counter intelligence, honey trapping agent. He clearly did this $hit on his own bat, along with Robert Maxwell's daughter.

    And he clearly totally definitely killed himself too.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭foxsake


    if its true about branson, there will be many a sycophant back-pedaling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,026 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Don't get too excited, the witness there doesn't appear to have much credibility, not helped that she retracted the claims, further not helped that she later confirmed she had "invented" these tapes (plus no evidence of them)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Packrat


    Totally.. it's as clear as day, - he was a lone wolf. . .

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,574 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    No, and nor should we expect that there will be. One of the grounds for the court's decision to unseal the documents is that substantially everything in them is already in the public domain, so there is no continuing point of keeping them under wraps.

    So, you might get a tad more detail about some of the allegations that are already known, but anybody who tells you that there is some amazing new explosive allegation in the documents is basically blowing smoke up your arse.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Clinton and a number of others have been continually dragged through the mud with all this, with very little evidence so far to back up the allegations. Its almost Cliff Richard-esque at this stage. Personally will hold judgement on some of the names until more solid evidence is forthcoming. Its very easy to make allegations without backing it up as we saw in the UK a number of years ago.

    Just reading the excerpt about Ransome's testimony above she seems to have credibility issues. And sending files to secure locations in Europe is a bit bizarre/spy fantasy stuff.

    In this day and age, if such videos existed, they'd have long ago being posted to the web.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    If the girl was over 18, nothing really illegal was allegedly done by Trump. If under 18 of course he has questions to answer.

    Regards trafficking, if the girls were over 18 and there voluntarily, its hardly a crime, otherwise the Hugh Heffner would have been arrested decades ago. Some clearly weren't there voluntarily though and trapped on the island which is far more serious/criminal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭take everything


    The Jeffrey Epstein wiki page is eye-opening.

    One interesting fact is that his first job was given to him by Donald Barr, father of Bill Barr, former US attorney general. Donald Barr was the principal at the Dalton school and hired Epstein on as a teacher despite Epstein not having finished a college degree.

    Donald Barr himself was a bizarre individual. He wrote a sci-fi novel back in the 70s about an oligarchy that engages in sex slavery of minors (which eerily presages Epstein's later exploits). Prior to this, Barr was an agent in the OSS, the wartime precursor to the CIA involved with espionage etc.

    Epstein has, of course, long been thought to be essentially a spy himself (Maxwell/Mossad/fake passports/his access to power etc).

    The leniency he received (and immunity he must have felt he had) beginning with the Florida case, is staggering. The whole wiki stinks of a cover up and protection of powerful people at all costs.

    The list of powerful people he was involved with is eye-opening and depressing. A strong take away is that the world is run by ravenous psychopaths, not like you or me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,828 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    He was weird through all the brainwashing the media did to make him weird to you, story of his life. In reality he was pretty boring and normal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    Epstein's brother sounds extremely dodgy too, the guy needs to answer some questions. He know's more than he's letting on. **** shill!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    The documentary I watched said the island was gifted to him by the owner of Victoria’s Secret. Some gift!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,674 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Yeah it's totally normal for a single man to have sleepovers with kids. Totally normal and so boring to build your own theme park based on never growing up, have pet chimpanzees and literally anesthetize yourself to sleep every night. If only the media didn't brainwash people into thinking all that is weird.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Sleepovers aside (Don't care if he never did anything or not, it's morally and ethically wrong) the theme park and pet chimpanzee are not exactly "weird" per say. If I had that money, I'd have numerous animals as pets and would build whatever I wanted on a vast land like Neverland

    The stuff he took to get to sleep...Biggest star in the world, most scrutinised person in the world, most popular person in the world, addicted to painkillers after his accident in 1984, under severe pressure every day, major financial issues since 1991, hoodwinked into doing 50 shows he never wanted to do, vast majority of the music industry out to get him since 1985 after buying up the catalogue of music he bought (Old enough to remember the press turning on him over that)

    I mean, I have trouble sleeping thinking about paying off my credit card...Certainly wouldn't hold the paragraph above against the guy. Especially when we know loads of artists are addicted to some form of drug or another, be it for a high or prescription stuff

    That said, he brought an awful lot of it on himself. Understand his reasons for wanting to surround himself with yes men due to his upbringing and his obsession with wanting to be number 1. I understand why he never got psychiatric help due the level of fame, which I'm certain no one has ever seen before or since, and it being plastered all over the papers. I find him, as an artist, absolutely incredible. I find him as a person, tragic and someone who never stood a chance. Holding his kid over a balcony because he was high as a kite and wanted the press to write about him as he had no music ffs

    Whilst he brought a lot of it on himself, the media were cruel to him. Allegations aside, what was the reason for a cartoon image of him as a caged monkey, with the caption, "Don't feed the Jacko" and a bucket of bananas beside him or when he played in Japan, "Jappos go mad for Wacko Jacko" or various other stuff?



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