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The Ryan Tubridy Show **Mod: Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    Are you suggestng that I'm trying to distract from Tubridy's predicament?

    I think he's still trying.

    Could you quote your post where you set out how you think NKM is going to make a return?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,443 ✭✭✭Morgans


    No. I trust you can read and I'm not interested in repeating myself.

    Let's say LEVEL 10 NKM effort is one that gets you in front of dail committees to circumvent a pay-cut you took in solidarity with your colleagues. One that means you get your invoices sent from the special non-NKM account. Obe who fabricates corporate events that the taxpayer ends up footing the tab.

    And LEVEL 0 is NKM is you can use my name and we'll negotiate your salary on your behalf.

    Where does helping get sponsors for a radio programme and negotiating to get a column in MOS rank?

    Why is NKM trying at all? Id guess the sensible answer to that is what I've said earlier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    I'll have to take your word that you really believe that you've answered the question that I asked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,443 ✭✭✭Morgans


    Good good. Why do you think NKM is still trying?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    Because Tubridy has a radio gig and a newspaper column and is thus earning fees.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Even with his Arts degree from UCD, it would require a HDip and that's about a year of study. Then he'd have to teach, correct homework and set tests. The reality would be very different to the aspiration. Perhaps that was his original career trajectory until he got a job in RTE.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,443 ✭✭✭Morgans


    And you think Tubridy sourced these roles himself without involvement from NKM?

    They just sit back and take 15% or whatever their fee arrangements are.

    NKM takes no active involvement in discussing working towards better more lucrative options for Ryan?

    What does NKM trying look like to you?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Writing a column is different to writing a book. A book generally has a single theme and there can be months to do the research and writing. A weekly column needs a topic and has to be produced quickly. It also has to be interesting for the readers. It is deceptively tougher than it looks and Tubridy still hasn't adapted to the format. Once RTE dumped Tubridy in August 2023, his value as a celebrity started to decline. The IMoS column is of more value to Tubridy than it is to the IMoS as it is keeping its readers aware that he still exists despite not being on national TV or radio.

    The longer Tubridy stays off national TV or radio, the weaker and less valluable his brand becomes. If some Irish national broadcaster was to offer him a gig with the same salary he is earning in Virgin Radio, he'd be on the next flight back.

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,632 ✭✭✭Tork


    Tubridy and NKM are playing the long game on this. That gig in London is seen as a short-term pain for a longer-term gain. Both ultimately want Tubridy to end up behind a microphone in Ireland, earning a high wage. Ideally, that'd be back in RTE but time will tell if that happens. NKM and Tubridy made a lot of money from his success in RTE so why wouldn't the pair work towards that outcome again? The 2nd best outcome is for another Irish station to hire Tubs and pay him well. They might be thinking of how well Pat Kenny has fared on Newstalk since leaving RTE.

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    If Tubridy had received any job offers worth entertaining after leaving RTE, he wouldn't be in London right now. It also makes sense to have him in London while the RTE controversies continue to rumble on. Those will eventually go away and the media will lose interest. In the meantime, Tubs hasn't really gone away. He can still be heard on local radio stations and is in the paper every Sunday. It'd all be going well if he hadn't proved to be surprisingly inept once he was removed from an RTE studio. I don't think anybody expected him to be exposed in the way he has.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    For those that maybe interested in the views of folks involved in the Irish radio industry. Liam Thompson is PD for Classic Hits FM and this is an extract from his Raudio newsletter regarding RTE:

    The Upstairs Downstairs Mentality at RTE


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    As I set off for the office to write this week’s newsletter, my 15 year old said, it’s not going to be about Ryan Tubridy again, is it?

    And I do feel like we have returned to the subject of RTE quite a lot, but wherever you’re reading this, there is a fascinating story in what happens when a public service broadcaster finds itself in deep water.

    In some ways, there are parallels between the battle the BBC is facing with the Tory Government, although their situation revolves more around perceptions of bias in coverage, promoted by the Government while senior Tory figures are actively involved in the BBC at Board level.

    More Drama Looms

    This week promises to be another big week of drama for RTE, as the Communications Minister Catherine Martin has found herself in the spotlight, after a public refusal to express confidence in the Chair of RTE.

    The Chair, Siun Ni Raghallaigh, then resigned and a flurry of new headlines questioning the chain of events over more Executive level payouts followed.

    The Minister is due to appear before the Oireachtas Media Committee on Tuesday, accompanied by the marvelously named former civil servant Katherine Licken. The questioning is expected to focus on when and how the Department were informed about the latest round of executive exit packages.

    All of this turmoil continues, as the State Broadcaster is suffering dramatic drops in licence fee income, which is not exactly surprising given the continual bad news about the organisation, and it’s prevented any decision on either a public funding bailout, or the announcement of the RTE survival plan that Director General Kevin Bakhurst had been working on.

    The Rounding Issue

    It was a detail in the Sunday Times reporting though that really caught my eye. It’s a relatively minor technical point I suppose from an accounting point of view, but RTE recorded the exit payment for their former Chief Financial Officer, Breda O’Keeffe as €400,000, when in fact the amount was €450,000.

    Why is that?

    Well, RTE says it’s practice is to round down sums to the nearest €100,000, so €450,000 was treated as €400K instead of say, €450K, or indeed rounded up to €500k

    And, it’s not clear whether the same practice was extended to other packages and how they were reported. And given that the current running total for redundancy package at Executive Level is almost €4 million since 2012, that could be a significant amount of money.

    One Person’s Rounding Error is another’s Career

    Let’s just step back for a minute. The starting salary, for an RTE radio producer, is about €51,000, that’s for a full years work, producing audio, coaching talent, devising radio and broadcasting it to a national audience.

    Or, in RTE language, when it comes to what it hilariously terms “VEPs” (Voluntary Exit Packages) for Executives, it’s just a rounding error.

    That really sums up the issue in RTE for me, I’ve worked there, I’ve been a Senior Manager in the Radio Division, and I know how it works and it’s not right.

    Upstairs Downstairs in Montrose Manor

    It’s not dissimilar to the 70’s TV show “Upstairs, Downstairs”, or it’s more modern incarnation “Downton Abbey”, there are two parallel worlds. One, which is downstairs, is where committed and talented people work hard every day to deliver public service broadcasting for a wide national audience.

    The other exists in a parallel universe, perched up above the common folk, where senior executives collect private sector salaries for public service work and when their time is up, they can happily walk away with multiples of their 6 figure salaries and straight into a commercial organisation.

    The people on the floors below don’t have that luxury, they work in a radio centre that is a literal relic of the 70’s and have been waiting for over a year now for some kind of plan that will give them comfort that they have jobs and security.

    Every version of a survival plan lists off hundreds of heads to be cut, but they’re really cutting the wrong heads, instead of 9 producers, why not lose another senior executive at a saving of €450,000?

    Or in the casual manner of the Director General’s own explanation, simply not replace some more of the €200,000 a year roles, that were deemed no longer necessary, and sure you’ll have recouped the payout in just 12 months.

    I’m genuinely surprised that the staff in RTE aren’t outside the Executive offices every single day with placards listing off the names and amounts that have been handed out as “VEPs” and demanding that Ireland’s public service broadcaster starts to take a more realistic approach to it’s senior level VIPs.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I think there a few current and former posters here who are far from surprised at how inept he's turned out to be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,228 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    So Katherine Licken won't be attending the Oireachtas meeting Tuesday with Martin.

    There's a surprise🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,951 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Chicken Licken.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    There are rumblings of Bauer wanting to sell off Newstalk - a brand that News UK might love to get their hands on as it aligns with their Talk/News brands in the UK, also Off The Ball with TalkSPORT etc.

    But even with all that and whether or not that ever happens - Tubridy may have cancelled himself out from a jump to NT anyway due to ineptitude, amounting to sounding utterly s***** on Virgin Radio and Q102 mid-mornings. The RAJARS and JNLR's Q1 figures for 2024 cannot come out soon enough as a confirmation that Tubridy truly chose the wrong career and perhaps should really have stuck it out at law school and kept radio as a hobby where he could have hosted a weekly book nerd and JFK / Beatles show at Dublin City FM.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Chocolatier


    How can he have 'stuck it out at law school' when he was never in law school?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    His link at 10:22 sounded a bit strange this morning. He was lecturing about 11,12 and 13 year olds wearing makeup...then in the same link, saying he loves the children's books area of bookshops.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    My apologies, I'm giving him too much credit again. Apparently he did consider studying law at Kings Inn and may have spent a very short time there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Tubridy is an author of two children's books. (Purely in the interests of balance.) The jaws in the studio must have dropped when he said that.

    Regards...jmcc

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I switched on the radio and heard him saying something about smelling a wet dog on the Tube...

    Before I switched away as usual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    He has said multiple times. That he was a registered student with Kings Inn. Presumably reading a degree in Barrister At Law. He has also said on multiple times that it wasn't for him and he jacked it in after two weeks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,052 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    He could do free history walking tours up and down o Connell st - his admirers will flock to wish him well no doubt ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa



    You're right, J, Tubridy is indeed the author of two children's books. Of course he's going to have a professional interest in the genre. Plenty of adults spend time in the children's section of bookshops - kids generally don't buy all their own books.

    There's a lot of things to criticize Tubridy for. A veritable smorgasbord of things. But being a creep for having an interest in the children's section of bookshops isn't one of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Perhaps his relocation to London will give him the material for a new book. Any ideas?

    Regards...jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,953 ✭✭✭yagan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    The golden parachute payment to ex-RTE staff - particularly those who left of their own volition, are absolutely scandalous. And should be investigated thoroughly.

    But on a personal level, Licken, as a retired civil servant, would be absolutely mad to voluntarily appear in front of the Oireachtas committee. Why on earth would anyone expose themself to the legal ramifications without the protection of an employer? The committee can't compel her to appear - it's basically a group of TDs and Senators in a big room talking. If you were walking down the road, and a group of TDs and Senators were in a huddle talking, and they called you over and said they wanted to quiz you, would you go over and let them? That's exactly the level of power they have.

    No matter how innocent you are, unless you're reporting a crime, never talk to the Gardaí without legal advice, and if you don't absolutely have to, never appear in front of an Oireachtas committee. When it comes to the authorities, always exercise your rights to their full extent. Because anything you say, no matter how innocuous, can be used against you.

    The real problem here isn't that certain people aren't gullible enough to expose themselves to the risk in the name of "accountability" . It's that we don't have the legal framework in place for proper oversight of any of this. We shouldn't have Oireachtas committees that are just talking shops and soapboxes for shouty politicians. We should have proper investigative panels with actual powers to call and compel witnesses and make substantive decisions and changes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Chocolatier


    Ah ha, I see - with apologies to alzer100 above. I took law school as referring to studying law as an undergraduate, which would have required points.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    He did ok points wise. Arts in UCD with a moderatorship in Greek and Roman Civilisatation I belive. To be fair he went to Blackrock college. If he didn't get a enough points for Arts in UCD. His family should be asking for their money back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Tubridy would be the first barrister in history who crumbled from his own line of questioning



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Chocolatier




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