All things Camogie.

Uncle Pierre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123422421#Comment_123422421

You're probably reading too much into the issues of the venue and the flag.

If you're suggesting it should have been at Parnell Park, hurling & football matches were taken out of there last week due to the state of the pitch after what looks like gallons of weedkiller being sprayed on it. I suspect it was still out of action on Saturday.

Re. the flag - does a flag with the Kilkenny camogie crest on it, rather than the GAA crest, even exist? And you'd hardly expect Dublin to commission one for the day.

greenspurs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123422709#Comment_123422709

No I'm not.

That's mind games they are trying, with the venue. No one there to organize parking for teams either.

Flag - yes of course there's a Camogie one , and if they really tried hard enough , maybe just get a black and amber flag ??

A national Anthem played that you couldn't hear..

Match programmes that no one could find ....

Just poor attempts by the Dublin Co board , just symbolizing a lot of the half ar$eing that goes on within the game of Camogie.

Tombo2001

Well….. were you at Croke Park yesterday? Absolutely brilliant event for underage and a credit to the camogie association.

Uncle Pierre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123422753#Comment_123422753

I dunno. I obviously wasn't there and I'm not trying to make excuses for how Dublin handled the event, but re. the venue, I do believe that it's more than likely that Parnell Park wasn't available, and so it had to go somewhere else.

I don't know if there are flags available anywhere with the Kilkenny camogie crest rather than Kilkenny GAA crest. I do know camogie can be "funny" with regard to crests. Am from Wexford myself, and Camogie Association here launched a new Wexford Camogie crest two years ago. They also launched a website (and in fairness, a fairly impressive one too) around the same time, but in two of three places on the home page where a crest appears, they've used the GAA one rather than their new camogie one - see www.wexfordcamogie.ie

There could have been a lot of half-arseing going on as regards parking stewards and distributing programmes and the like all right, but as you say, that's maybe symbolic of things across the board than a particular attempt by Dublin to "get at" Kilkenny.

Tombo2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123422832#Comment_123422832

I think the associations are unfairly criticised for quality of websites - my guess is (could be wrong) that its difficult and expensive to find developers to do this work.

Great with that in mind to see one common website now for all four codes in Dublin.

As for flags and stewards out in Peregrines - not being smart but again, with a couple of hundred supporters why would they need stewards. There would be as many people at a senior club match in the mens.

Also - its hard enough to find volunteers, but volunteering with the GAA is becoming something almost to keep quiet about the way things are going.

If you are volunteering with Camogie, you're branded as some olden days archaic 'pro the skort' mysoginist. Volunteer with the GAA and it'll be that you are abusing the ref and shouting at the players. All tarred with the same brush, by people who couldnt be arsed helping out themselves.

Uncle Pierre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123422956#Comment_123422956

I wasn't criticising the camogie website here at all - in fact, far from it. I acknowledged it's a very impressive one. Was just pointing out that since they don't seem to mind a juxtaposition of GAA crest & camogie crest even on their own website, perhaps the other poster here was just a little too worked up over the Kilkenny GAA crest being on a flag on Saturday rather than the Kilkenny camogie one.

Similarly with regard to parking stewards. The other poster was the one who mentioned it, specifically in relation to the teams. Again, I don't know what the arrangements were there, but you'd expect that if Kilkenny were arriving by bus, there'd be a space kept for the bus to park. Maybe this didn't happen, and that's what he/she was referring to?

Or if Dublin players were arriving individually by car, that there'd be 25 to 30 more car spaces kept for them, and a couple of stewards on hand to make sure nobody else used them. But again (and as I keep saying!), I don't know.

BP_RS3813

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123422649#Comment_123422649

My apologies - I didn't mean to have it sound like athletics was perfect (still more men then women coaching but not as bad a ratio as camogie/GAA). Yes I suppose it makes sense when you put it like that - GAA is seperated from such a young age and typically much more men will stay in the sport then women.

Tombo2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123422995#Comment_123422995

No not all - you are absolutely right that athletics doesnt have this issue to the same extent, or really doesnt have the issue at all.

And then something like gymnastics would be almost entirely female led from a volunteer perspective. Or for example Irish dancing.

BP_RS3813

Is there any more plans for protests or have players decided that its a wait until '27 thing and hopefully the people inside the GAA can directly change the rule when they all become the one org?

Its hard enough to keep girls in the sport - a lot of players could be lost during the next two years or so if their elected representatives don't change anything until then.

The White Feather

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123423122#Comment_123423122

Yes there is meant to be one planned for the Munster final by the Cork players next Saturday. Cork are considering not leaving the pitch and refusing to change from their shorts, which would see the game abandoned and possibly awarded to Waterford, unless they do the same. I would fully support the Cork players if they decide to do it.

"Laura Treacy, Gaelic Players Association representative on the Cork panel said they do not want to be doing this.

“We hope there will be dialogue ahead of the weekend and it doesn’t come to this,” said Laura. “The players, from both sides, want to just play the game and hopefully not have to worry about this issue.

“We would prefer to be concentrating on retaining our title and nothing else so we want to see this resolved ahead of the game on Saturday.” 

Ahead of the game correspondence sent out by the Munster Council stated that they were making both counties aware the wearing of shorts will not be acceptable and the game will not go ahead if both counties do not comply with rules. On this matter they pointed out they have to follow national guidelines."

greenspurs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123422984#Comment_123422984

I was pointing out that how the 'ahh shur it'll do' attitude still pervades when it comes to Camogie...

Don't have a correct Kilkenny Camogie flag?

Ahh I'll find a hurling one , that'll do.

Bus had no assigned space , no stewards therc to ask where to park or to stop traffic while getting in a very narrow gate.

A handful of 'programmes' ... A national anthem played on what sounded like a car stereo in the car park ...

No dugouts ...

Just a "ahh shur it'll do' attitude

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And then all the furore and outrage about skorts, maybe if people went Jo games they'd see quite a few more issues!!!

If you don't know , then why comment ?

The White Feather

Yes, Cork Captain Meabh Cahalane confirms they will wear shorts for the match on Saturday

BP_RS3813

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123423858#Comment_123423858

Whether they back it up on the day is another thing entirely. Will see how it plays out.

The White Feather

https://www.rte.ie/sport/camogie/2025/0506/1511431-molloy-to-propose-possible-skort-rule-change-in-2026/

Camogie President wants to bring a motion in 2026 on the issue

I told ya

You really couldn't make this up. It's the 21st Centaury. Do these people not have wives, sisters, daughters…? Mistresses?

The players should be allowed to wear what they want - the players know what suits them best.

If the players feel a showdown with the GAA is the only way to resolve the issue, then I'm 100% behind them.

A quite word from a Special Advisor… the Minister's not happy, public spat, doesn't want to answer journalists' questions, grants, funding… I'd see a very quick resolution.

I'm reminded of the first females to join the army about 45 years ago. They were expected to do outdoor physical training in white, skimpy outfits. After a period of time they collectively decided to purchase navy (I think) tracksuits and appeared on parade. The training NCOs spent a few minutes looking at the platoon and each other and then decided to just get on with it. Not a word was said.

As someone who was in the DF at the time, I can fully appreciate the bravery of the woman to challenge a male dominated, authoritarian system where you kept your mouth shut and did what you were told.

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123424910#Comment_123424910

You are aware that the GAA and the Camogie Association are not the same. You do know the Camogie Association is largely run by women?

Not sure what standing up to men is going on here.

BP_RS3813

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123424910#Comment_123424910

You do realise that the GAA support them wearing shorts? Camogie is its own seperate org and mainly run by women. They themselves voted down a change to the skorts rule.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123424957#Comment_123424957

Is it possible that allowing shorts to be worn will bring them a step closer to a 3-way merger between themselves, the GAA and LGFA and that some very high-ups in the Camogie Association don't want that? Genuine question

Tombo2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123423762#Comment_123423762

Arguably its silly in the first place that for a kid who wants a county jersey you have to ask - well do you want the mens football, the hurling, the womens football or the camogie jersey….

Tombo2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123424141#Comment_123424141

Ah - I'd say at this stage the Camogie Assocation just want the whole thing to go away. Its awful PR. If Cork line out in Shorts that will be the end of it, all teams will line out in shorts thereafter.

They'd be bananas to call the game off; its already an international news story.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123425050#Comment_123425050

I wonder if this news story will increase ticket sales as people will go to see what will happen

BP_RS3813

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123424971#Comment_123424971

I don't know that much at all about the GAA/Camogie to know whether they want it or not - Not my sport.

LeoD

Does women's field hockey or tennis have the same problem? I don't know if any sporting org can let competitors wear whatever they want. I don't know anything about women's sportswear but are camogie 'skorts' just poorly made? Would making them comfortable not help resolve the issue?

BP_RS3813

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123426010#Comment_123426010

Having a skirt around a short defeats the purpose of shorts - freedom of movement. Of course there is a uniform of some sort in every sport but regardless of lenght/visibility they all allow freedom of movement required for the sport. Even in Tennis the skirts are made so that they are not restricting in movement. Skorts purposefully restrict movement.

VinLieger

I saw the Dublin board were directing refs to allow matches be played if players were wearing shorts but they will fine teams 1 euro so technically the rule is still being enforced, that's fantastic malicious compliance. If the association refuse to do anything till next year every other county board should go with the same policy and make the Camogie association look absolutely powerless.

The White Feather

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123424141#Comment_123424141

Yes, they are backing it up. I hope Waterford supports it too

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0507/1511557-skort-rule-camogie/

The White Feather

This is on behalf of both Cork and Waterford

MrMusician18

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123424971#Comment_123424971

If anything this fiasco will have a negative impact on the merger plans. The GAA are already getting it in the neck in some quarters despite it having nothing to do with them, imagine what the commentary would be like if they had an official role?

I personally think the merger is a mistake and if this causes everyone to take a second look at this before proceeding then that will at least have been a positive.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123426637#Comment_123426637

The GAA have been known to enjoy causing the odd fiasco from time to time to be fair. Keeping people talking about you these days isn't a bad thing at all

greenspurs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123425113#Comment_123425113

To The Ragg ???

Jaysus I hope not.