2023 NFL regular season thread (no picks)

Christy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121371521#Comment_121371521

That contract is designed and restructured to let them push at the start of his contract with that incredible defense. They have used 28 million of cap space the last 2 years on Watson which is pittance for a qb.

However that means that the rest of the money is due against the cap the next few years. He has 64 million against the cap the next 3 years followed by a 9 million hit in a void year. They will likely restructure again next year entirely crippling them for the final two years and the year after he leaves.

This is in addition to not get any first round talent onto the roster as thry traded all their picks for this horrible contract.

Also in addition that this for a qb that has not played well for them. He finally had a good half and is out for the season.

You love to see it. They dug this hole and will lie in it.

odyssey06

Do NFL teams have player level insurance so that eg if key player out for season, insurance company pick up wages \ rehab bill?

I thought that was a thing in soccer at least, maybe more so in the past.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121372053#Comment_121372053

Myles Garrett's cap hits grow over the next couple of years too. I think it's $20 million next year and north of $30 million the following two.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121372059#Comment_121372059

I'm sure if they don't that the players do through the NFLPA.

ArmaniJeanss

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121372059#Comment_121372059

My instinct would be No, but happy to be proved wrong.

I'd have thought it would be against the concept of the salary cap (which also has a salary floor, a minimum, which is only slightly less than the cap). Like each team is contractually obliged to pay $220M in salaries - getting some of that back in insurance pay-outs would surely be a cheat?

ArmaniJeanss

Would also wonder how cost-effective insurance would be - like surely the premium would be mega high?

We've lost 5 of the starting qb's to season-enders so far (Rodgers, Watson, Cousins, Richardson, Jones) which is 15% in half a season. So presumably with insurance companies wanting a profit margin, then the yearly premium for a $50M salary qb would need to be around $15-$20M.

Whereas in soccer it's only a handful of players who pick up season-enders so premium/insurance works better.

eagle eye

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121372236#Comment_121372236

I think it's be done by the percentage of starters that go down in each position on average over maybe the most recent three years.

So let's say it was the same amount as this year, I know the season isn't over yet but let's say five. Then that's just over 15% so I'd expect insurance would be looking for 17% of the annual salary.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121372198#Comment_121372198

Well I wouldnt consider it cheating as you wouldnt have that much dollars on the field at same time. Player is inactive long term so has to be replaced.

Its probably more needed in a soccer situation where player X has to retire through injury and you need funds to sign a replacement on transfer market.

Seems like it isnt a thing in NFL probably a factor of players not being sold for big bucks and the deep pockets of franchises.

Mr. Guappa

I can see why an individual player would take insurance against injury costing him future earnings, but I don't see why a team would within the confines of the salary cap. Not something I've ever heard of either, so fairly sure it's not a thing.

ArmaniJeanss

Week 11 TV fixtures. It's Super Bowl (rematch) baby.

Late Thursday/Friday am

Bengals at Ravens 01.20am Sky Sports

Sunday

Steelers at Browns 6pm Sky Sports

Buccaneers at 49ers 9.05pm Sky Sports

Late Sunday/Monday am

Vikings at Broncos 01.20am Sky Sports

Late Monday/Tuesday am

Eagles at Chiefs 01.20am Sky Sports and Channel 5 UK.

eagle eye

Eagles v Chiefs should be a great game with both coming off the bye week.

eagle eye

Last night was brutal. Mark Andrews gone for the season. Joe Burrow could be out for a while, he went off with a right wrist problem. It swelled up.

He couldn't grip the ball or raise his arm after he went off, that sounds like cartilage damage to me.

myate

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121374704#Comment_121374704

Some run of Niners games on Sky! Last week, this week, next week is Thursday for them, week after is vs. Eagles (which will be game of week surely on Sky) if it isn't on at scheduled time of 9:25 it'll be flexed to SNF.

Itssoeasy

The lions and browns haven’t had records this good in the same season since 1969.

adrian522

Man, Sean McVay made a complete mess of that drive. Left 1.30 on the clock and only a FG needed, also burned 2 timeouts due to not getting the play in on time. Complete mess.

adrian522

Incompetent clock management by both Sean McVay and Pete Carroll there at the end.

eagle eye

Joshua Dobbs looks like he's going to be a full time starter next year. He really does look very good

eagle eye

Chiefs defense is manhandling the Eagles offense. It's currently 17-7 and Kansas has the ball. If they had a decent receiver, outside of Kelce, the lead would be a lot bigger I think.

AbusesToilets

Eagles determined to waste opportunities. 2 terrible screen plays after a great turn over to give the ball right back

eagle eye

Incredible throw by Mahomes to Watson with pressure all around him. He's just unbelievable at times.

But the drive stalls again. Chiefs lead by three, Eagles have the ball.

AbusesToilets

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121394447#Comment_121394447

I hate it lol.

AbusesToilets

Hurts has had a few of his customary failures to spot wide open guys this game

AbusesToilets

Then he makes a great throw to get into the 1 yd line

eagle eye

Unbelievable, the Eagles have turned up in this second half. 21-17 Eagles, pressure on the Chiefs to respond now.

AbusesToilets

Sensational special teams tackle on that punt

AbusesToilets

Two atrocious drops by Chiefs receivers to kill the game. You love to see it.

eagle eye

Eagles win. Valdes-Scantling did his usual and dropped a perfect pass for a touchdown. Game wouldn't have been over if he got it but he didn't get it so it's a big, likely win lost over the guy with the misty dropped passes this season to date.

Outside chance that Mark Andrews could be back this season as injury not as bad as they feared but would presumably mean us going on a deep enough play-off run.

Edwards, Hill and Mitchell have been brilliant.

Mitchell looking like steal of the draft (can you be steal of the draft if you go undrafted??).

ArmaniJeanss

Week 12 TV Fixtures Part One.

Thanksgiving slate is the usual 'bit meh'. For once the Lions aren't the weak link in the first game and the Packers are still competitive as the current #8 seed. Cowboys game could get ugly and Ron Rivera might get a holiday firing. Late game is excellent. Sadly Friday's game hasn't quite worked out the way NFL/Amazon would have expected. Note : Sky Sports are hosting this game from Shooters Bar Manchester, an experiment which was comically terrible last year.

edit : Jeff Rheinbold is back on the Sky Sports team this week 😀

Thursday

Packers at Lions 5.30pm Sky Sports, Sky Max, Sky Sports Mix.

Commanders at Cowboys 9.30pm Sky Sports.

Late Thursday/Friday am

49ers at Seahawks 01.20am Sky Sports.

Friday

Dolphins at Jets 8pm Sky Sports.

eagle eye

I'm having a miserable day fasting since yesterday for a colonoscopy tomorrow.

Can't wait for the football, I think I'll forget about the fasting once it begins.

I think the Lions will give the Packers a good going over. They are just too strong on the ground against a weak run defense. This will lead to the Packers moving close to the line and then you've got to deal with Amon-Ra St. Brown, and Jameson Williams seems to be hitting top gear as well.

You'd think the Cowboys should easily handle the Commanders but this rivalry produces the most messed up results.

Last year with the Cowboys still fighting for the NFC East title the Commanders rolled into Dallas and whooped them 26-6. It's 3-3 over the last three years. I've seen 6-3, 7-6 9-7, 38-31, 33-31 in my years watching these two go at it. . It can go anyway anytime.

Late game you have to fancy the 49ers but they haven't a great record in this rivalry despite winning both games last year.