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Bank of Ireland Chaos

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,047 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭left_hander


    There is zero hope of the bank selling this debt on. Whatever hope they have of getting x out of them for y weeks, there is zero hope of a debt collector getting anything from them. In fact, I'd say even debt collectors will steer clear of this one.

    As I said in post #719, I worked in a bank for a good few years and SW people are prolific borrowers and pay back x over y weeks until the next holy communion / santa presents / back to school / etc. Its not even a case of affordability, the income in to some SW peoples pockets was eye-watering to me as a very moderately paid bank official. I was left wondering if I was the idiot when I saw the benefits and entitlements of some of these people. This is inter-generational now as kids have the same sense of "I'm entitled to" as their parents had. It begged the question what the f are they spending it on that they need a loan and to pay loan interest and honestly, at times it reminded me of Homer Simpson having his repayments explained to him and his only response to the balloon payment was "that's not for a while, yeah?"

    They just don't get it. The banks they seemingly loathe if social media is to be believed make lots of money off their stupidity because they don't think for more than 3 seconds about their needs and the associated costs. If young Sharon needs the best white dress at the Holy Communion and the party, that's what she'll get.

    And all these clowns have done is shot themselves in the foot because they'll end up borrowing from loan sharks because their credit rating will be shot. And then they victim hood will start.

    I think they've had the "drunk night out" stage for the last few days - great craic altogether, let the "hangover" begin. Reality is starting to dawn on these idiots that there's no such thing as "free munny" and if you do take the bank up on their generosity, if you don't want to pay it back you better have plan B for how to keep that munny and it better involve avoiding dealing with a bank again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭howiya


    A credit check can only be done in tandem with an application for credit and with your consent i.e. its part of the application form for whatever loan you apply for.

    There is no such thing as a credit check associated with the opening of a new current account.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Tow


    It has been pointed out in another forum, who confirmed it with the central bank. That customers need to have a credit agreement with the bank for a loan to be reported. Accounts which have no authorised overdraft which just 'happened' to become overdrawn are not reportable.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭CapriciousOne


    What happened here in the end? Were accounts overdrawn?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,334 ✭✭✭jj880


    BANK OF IRELAND (BOI) customers who withdrew more money than they had available the night of the ATM ‘glitch’ will have six months to repay the bank before fees or interest kick in.


    The bank said today that it has written to every impacted customer and has asked them to reach out to it. BOI has not disclosed how many customers this involves.


    Impacted customers who went into an “unauthorised overdraft” have been given an interest-free temporary overdraft for 90 days.


    Following this, if a customer has still not repaid the outstanding amount, they will be placed on an interest-free loan for a further 90 days.


    The bank has told The Journal that there are no fees for these temporary overdrafts and loans.

    Didn't think they'd be letting this go easily.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,523 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Haha what a bunch of morons.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,248 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I still struggle to understand how so many people really thought that they were getting free money. Unbelievable.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I’d say they’ll do well to recover 10% of what was taken in the above scenario….

    the other 90%, not a hope in hell.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,523 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    They'll recover every penny and then some. You don't **** about with banks.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,334 ✭✭✭jj880


    Yip. I was thinking 6 months without penalty when it happened then they will get the money 1 way or another. Cant allow a precedent like this. Not a chance.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Tow


    There are people live their life on 'free' money from the state. In their mind this was no different.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭kirk.




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,523 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Court battles etc yeah. Not a couple of grand for a telly. They'll get all this back.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭kirk.


    They dont go to court all the time I know this for a fact



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,336 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Don't see why they should let it go.

    I had a credit card bill which I forgot to pay on time and got hit with extra interest on it, I didn't like it but it was my f up and not the banks fault.

    It was gas to see the hard lefters suggesting the bank should just do nothing because these idiots thought the ATM was giving them free money.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,334 ✭✭✭jj880


    Agreed. So what if its a glitch or even a banking error? Doesn't hold much weight here imo. From a legal standpoint if BOI dont recover these funds where does anyone stand with not paying an overdraft?

    I think BOI will chase every one of these cases down.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The problem is though there will come a point where the cost to BoI of trying to recover cash from someone will far outweigh what that person actually owes, and they’ll most likely just write it off..

    Remember they aren’t dealing with law abiding citizens here… it’ll be mostly professional scroungers who will simply not give a toss, no matter how many letters they receive….



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭kirk.


    There's not a hope of them getting most of this money back

    The banks don't chase everyone to court , that's a myth , plenty walk away from debt



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    The cost of collection is pretty much zero at this stage. The write off will trigger a CCR reporting event and the debt will remain on the client's CCR report until such time as the debt is settled so unless the client will never need credit facilities anywhere in the EU for the rest of their live, they will eventually have to go back and settle the debt plus penalties, interest and all the rest of that jazz. And the statute of limitations has no impact as it is just a defence in court and does not trump the EU directive or related Irish law. It's also pretty easy to factor this debt as it is only a matter of time before the debtor needs to sort it out.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭Tow


    It was reported earlier in the thread that as the dept is not authorised by the bank it is not reportable. How true this is, i don't know.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭kirk.


    Is it even a debt I thought it was an overdraft

    Haven't been following it, anyone that was working and did this was an idiot



  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,025 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    An authorised overdraft absolutely is, and will absolutely be reported to the CCR.

    An unauthorised OD is (iny opinion) a bit more tricky.

    But, what BOI has some by giving them an OD facility to cover it and then withdrawing it in a few months if it's not paid will probably cover that and catch them in the net.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,334 ✭✭✭jj880


    Maybe its that way in their minds but Im not sure on the direct connection here.

    To me its reads as a case of are the banks within the law to chase this money.

    Would be interesting to know some stats on total funds that are overdrawn.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Here we go again.....

    Their bloody banking app has been down for over half an hour.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,261 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    Ahh just tried it on mobile and no go , i did see maintenance to come but not remembered when 3am to 7am sunday 19th.

    Tried windows and no joy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭Madd002


    Just logged in on my mobile app no issues straight in.?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah? Odd. Still getting the error screen (using an iphone).



  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭Madd002




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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Tried as well using a Windows PC. Error message again.



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