What do you think happens after death?

SouthWesterly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120810946#Comment_120810946

The alternative is eternal death while your spirit/ soul is conscious of its state

SouthWesterly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120810987#Comment_120810987

I'll narrow it down for you. Those without the law shall be judged as having not heard . Those who have the law and have heard shall be judged as having heard

Should make your reading a bit easier to find. You only need to read the first 8 chapters of Romans for the reference and context.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120811080#Comment_120811080

But sure that's ridiculous!

basically, God or whoever, decides that people who have heard of him and believe in whatever he wants, can go to heaven, but people that have heard about him and don't believe, won't get to heaven. But people who have no idea about religion, God or anything like it get to go to heaven?

seems a bit judgy

Man Vs ManUre

If there is another James Bond movie, then I will believe in life after death.

Man Vs ManUre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120800553#Comment_120800553

If there are sharks, crocodiles, hippos and dinosaurs in heaven, then I think I will take my chances in hell.

SuperBowserWorld

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120811197#Comment_120811197

Yep, could be all kinds of stuff there 😄

Real Donald Trump

I didn't know before I was born, and I doubt I'll know after I die. That is what I think.

Real Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120795473#Comment_120795473

What do you think? besides asking the OP what he thinks

Lemsiper

I just asked, as mostly OP offers their own opinion on the subject to get the ball rolling. I was genuinely curious as I thought they might have had one to offer at the time. That's all.

I personally don't think about what happens after, but always interested about others views on the matter.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120811242#Comment_120811242

Real Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120811317#Comment_120811317

Fair enough

FishOnABike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120811075#Comment_120811075

But if consciousness is a function of the brain,

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fncel.2019.00302/full

how can one be conscious of one's own state after death? In death all neuronal activity stops. The body decays into the basic chemical building blocks from which it is made.

You are dust and to dust you will return.

dickdasr1234

I come from a family that was steeped in religion as was the whole country at the time.

3/9 of us still believe.

Personally, at age 14/15, I began to question the morality of a religion based on fear.

And it is simply a question of belief.

If you believe there is a god, there is a god.

If you don't believe there is a god, there is no god.

There is no point in discussing anything with someone who subscribes to peasant myths from the Middle East of 2000 years.

I was going to say it beggars belief...

smacl

There is no point in discussing anything with someone who subscribes to peasant myths from the Middle East of 2000 years.

Mod warning: This is not a forum where you are allowed to openly attack the Christian belief system in this manner. Please read the forum charter before posting here again.

54and56

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120808632#Comment_120808632

I sure did. Christians are absolutely certain there is an afterlife. If you are absolutely certain of something you can't at the same time be hoping its true.

Therefore, by your own logic, Christians are without hope and therefore hopeless.

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120807561#Comment_120807561

There we go, I knew you were a Born Again Christian by the way you were writing. It's very easy to spot.

All these millenarian era Christian denominations, such as Born Agains, Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses write and speak with an incredible amount of conviction and dare I say it, utter condescension and scoffing towards what anyone else thinks. Like they're part of a secret club.

We have another terms for such secret clubs you know, they're called 'cults'.

Ramasun

I don't know what happens after I die. I know what happens after other people die.

Some people believe in an afterlife but I won't be making any decisions in this life in the hope of being rewarded for them after death.

Yellow_Fern

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120808377#Comment_120808377

Do people going to door to door are just about stroking ones ego? Did you say that about prochoice campaigners knocking on people door during the abortion vote?

SouthWesterly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120813820#Comment_120813820

The bible speaks of Christians as having this experience. If a person hasn't experienced what Jesus spoke about, they are not a Christian in the biblical sense of the word Christian.

Just because your parents are Christians doesn't automatically make the child one.

Likewise, the performance of a ritual on a baby or adult, doesn't make them a Christian.

I suggest you read the new testament to understand the definition of a Christian. The Apostles lived with Jesus 3 years. They still needed the experience demonstrated in Acts 2. The gentiles and Samaritans has the same experience as you read on in the book of Acts.

As for the word Christian. It was a derogatory and slanderous term used by the general population. The early church never referred to themselves as such.

As for secretive cult. We meet in a building on a main street and our doors are open to anyone who wants to come in and hear what's being said. Nothing secret about that.

As said, it's not a new phenomenon. Jesus spoke about it (John 3) . The old testament prophets spoke about it. Not sure why you think it's a modern idea. It's plainly not.

NCS

Irrespective of belief beforehand, NDEs seem to have a common recurring theme of sudden peace and physical detachment occurring after death. The secularist rationalises this as a symptom of the nervous system shutting down while the Christian understands this as the separation of the soul/spirit from the physical body. At this point, secularism calls it quits but the Bible indicates that saved and unsaved individuals experience the following after death:

• immortality (guaranteed for saved, most likely - and unhappily - also for the unsaved)
• transfer to a new location outside of this existence
• self-awareness and retention of identity, personality, sensory ability and emotional experience
• memory of life history and recognition of other individuals
• passage of time / cause and effect proceeding similarly to now
• permanent fellowship with or separation from Jesus accompanied by a positive or negative personal experience respectively

By implication, this existence is outside of a physical body until Jesus returns and the resurrection takes place. Eschatological views vary in detail but the broad Scriptural view is that after the resurrection, the saved will have perfect human bodies in perpetuity while the unsaved will face a very different outcome.

Some of this is drawn from what Jesus has to say about the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16:19 onwards, a quite frankly terrifying narrative (not a parable) about someone experiencing conscious torment in hell and the impossibility of any future relief, rescue or redemption. Literal hopelessness - and he's still there now. Horrifying - and best avoided.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120814012#Comment_120814012

No. Because that had the obvious intent of informing people and getting the vote out to repeal the 8th amendment and it was very successful.

You'd have to be some lunatic to change your religion because someone happened to knock on your door. It hardly ever happens yet these eejits keep trying again and again.

The public preaching stuff is just performative, extremely annoying (nobody should be allowed use amplifiers in a public place, including buskers, imho)

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120814029#Comment_120814029

We meet in a building on a main street

So you are a member of a religion after all.

SouthWesterly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120818038#Comment_120818038

What makes you think that ?

The local GAA club meets at a venue as well as does the local ceolthas. I suppose they're religions by your definition.

Ridiculous comment but not surprising given your off mentioned position.

Really not sure why you bother coming into this forum. I suppose it strokes your ego, a bit like those who preach on the street.

smacl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120814029#Comment_120814029

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Yellow_Fern

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120818031#Comment_120818031

So changing mind on social policy at the door is normal but changing your worldview isn't. You are talking in circles.

smacl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120818031#Comment_120818031

Mod note: Warned for breach of points 3 and 6 of charter.

Hooked

Stumbled across this on the main page while checking my inbox...

I'm a firm believer that once I take my last breath and my heart beats it's last - that there is simply 'nothing'. The same 'nothing' that existed before/as I was conceived.

In fact, the idea that there is a white-bearded man in the sky waiting for us is, in MY opinion... utterly ridiculous.

SouthWesterly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120819051#Comment_120819051

And what if you're wrong?. I'm sure you couldn't be but what if your wrong

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120818548#Comment_120818548

Canvassing is normal before every election and referendum and done by all sides, and all they want is that you take a few minutes on a specific day to vote, then they leave you alone.

People knocking on your door expecting you to turn your whole life upside down because they say so is rather different.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120818257#Comment_120818257

The use of the word "we" implies a congregation of some sort. I would call a congregation of people worshipping a god a religion, how would you define a religion?

This is not a forum exclusively for Christians, is that what you want? No other opinions allowed? Burn them at the virtual stake?

wotzgoingon

I'll tell you what happens after death. You get a full time job(day in day out) and live in a high rise block of flats like Ballymun but on a scale that isn't seen on this planet as in there are tower blocks for miles in each direction from the one you live in. You will always have a job but you will never be rich.