Union Jack flying south of the border

Hotblack Desiato

All this night raid/day raid is nonsense. The Allies could target whatever they wanted.

By 1945, maybe - but by then the Luftwaffe had most of its best pilots killed and most of its planes were grounded for lack of fuel or spare parts.

The Allies' objective was to win the war as quickly as possible and this meant concentrating the bomber offensive on military and industrial targets above all. Their own servicemen (and in the UK's case, civilians) were losing their lives the longer the war went on, the fate of civilians in occupied Europe was very much a secondary concern.

Also bear in mind that in 1944/45 Britain was under attack from German V1s and V2s, destroying their launch/storage/production sites was top priority.

Irish History

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121069496#Comment_121069496

Here Dougal - what part of the following did you not understand???

The recent 4 episode HBO documentary about colonialism and imperialism (exterminate all the brutes) has a few bits about Ireland.

The man who coined the word 'GENOCIDE', Raphael Lemkin, left his papers to a museum - in one of the boxes a page was discovered with a list he wrote of countries that committed genocide in other countries. England's genocide of Irish people in Ireland was near the top of his genocide list.

So the man who coined the word genocide clearly had what the parasite that is England did in Ireland down as genocide.

He should know exactly what is meant by the word he coined - obviously.

Slightly Kwackers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120717662#Comment_120717662

This is just like the bigots in the UK that are so keen post Brexit to tell anyone critical of their tribal simplicity to up sticks and live in the EU.

It's strange how this flag freedom never quite extends to a swastika though.

I think flying a good luck symbol is more peaceful and wholesome than any national flag now one infamous band of its abusers have been overthrown :-)

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121089165#Comment_121089165

Read the post, the word is defined, saying the same thing louder makes no difference.

I'm not saying he doesn't know what genocide means, I'm.saying he doesnt know his Irish history.

I'm saying YOU don't know what it means, and you don't know the difference between 'genocide' and 'occupation'.

Leaving you here as ive proven my point and you lack the capacity to show basic respect, so don't waste your time replying as I'm not going to waste my time reading it.

Good evening.

Irish History

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121089489#Comment_121089489

Nonsense - you clearly do not know what you are posting about.

You even think it is the evening when in actual fact and in reality, it is the afternoon.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121061551#Comment_121061551

Time you grew up, recognised that Ireland has moved on and we have an agreed approach as to how a United Ireland may occur should we decide to go down that road at some point. And part of that agreement requires you to be respectful to the other traditions on this island and if you can't do that then you will find yourself at odds with most of the residents in the country. Now some people including myself may not entirely agree with that approach, but that is how it is and as a Republican you must respect that decision because the alternative is fascism.

tinytobe

Interesting discussion to read.

Maybe the British are trying to reclaim the whole of Ireland? Establish a monarchy and a feudal system. English landed gentry, snobish language, and Irish made to work on "their" lands.....

Yes, the Union Jack does look a bit unpleasant in Ireland, except on Embassies, or maybe Hotels or Sports events.

It's a bit different, if both the Irish and the British flag are flown, - in the sense of mutual recognition.

The Irish and the US-American flag do look better together, though.....

pgj2015

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121089388#Comment_121089388

Maybe just fly a flag with a dove on it for peace or the hippy peace symbol?

maybe its just me but I wouldn't dare move to a foreign country and then b1tch about that country to the natives, even if it was north korea.

Slightly Kwackers

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121090214#Comment_121090214

I don't see much evidence of disrespect.

I think some do seem to angle for disrespect and humour though.

The Union flag has been used for many nefarious reasons, none more so than the Tories standing in front of so many in England, when trying to sell their snake oil.

There comes a point where the sheer number of flags becomes sinister though I think. I worked all over the world but never saw so many flags as in Northern Ireland. As an English visitor, it frankly gave me the creeps. I never saw anywhere near the number in one place in London, not even in Windsor. No other nations flag seemed to require dangling from every single utility pole in some areas anywhere in the world but NI.

Doves are fine, but sometimes friends are not an asset, not even peaceful ones.

I think a swastika sends the message of luck and well being.

Maybe that's why they don't sell them on Amazon and Ebay, anyone avoiding bad luck in purchases would tend to be selective in their sources :-)

indioblack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121089624#Comment_121089624

"The historical fact of the matter is that the German Nazis were pussycats......"

I always thought they were.

They had so much more planned - and then those pesky Allies shut them down.

tinytobe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121090402#Comment_121090402

The Swastika was sadly abused by the Nazis for their own ideology. In the Asian countries the Swastika symbolizes something positive.

The white dove was also often abused, by the communists in Eastern Europe. East Germany or the CSSR you would see thosw white doves as a symbol of peace or "their peace", - meaning locking in people, and killing those who had different opinions.

Ash.J.Williams

We need to start getting used to being inclusive with unionists as they will be our unionists in the near future

Irish History

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121089933#Comment_121089933

But why should we Irish have to have "mutual recognition" of the flag of 32 county Ireland with the flag of the political entity UK that claims a part of our country?

And for the record - no Irish flag can flag proudly in Ireland while to our shame and humiliation, England still occupies a part of our country.

Irish History

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121090749#Comment_121090749

Once they obey the democratic will of the Irish people - something the foreign ethnic British Unionists have yet to learn in Ireland.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121112821#Comment_121112821

OMG, yes there is. One was a flag with no status, that was before the State was formed, the other was the flag of a state that the PIRA were dedicated to overthrowing. Even by 1981, the SF/PIRA refused to take seats in the Dail. The usage is completely different.

Anyone with half an understanding of history would know that.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121113082#Comment_121113082

There is no flag of 32 county Ireland.

droidman123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121114290#Comment_121114290

He didnt say it was

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121090749#Comment_121090749

We need to respect all minorities except those minorities who I fundamentally disagree with.

JeffreyEpspeen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120717815#Comment_120717815

Aye.

https://urbexhub.com/the-house-on-the-wrong-side-of-the-border/

JeffreyEpspeen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120722481#Comment_120722481

The Brazilian government and armed forces didn't collude with loyalist terrorists in cross border operations and bombings that targeted civilians. But, then again, you know this and are just being obtuse.