Cork City - anti social behaviour etc... what's being done?
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If you know of any credible studies exploring this, do link.
There you go, knock yourself out, if you can?
M.J. Delforterie et al (2015). are particularly interesting.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0376871615001039
I quote:
Conclusions
Cannabis involvement is associated, albeit modestly, with SI and unplanned suicide attempts. Such attempts are difficult to prevent and their association with cannabis use and cannabis use disorder symptoms requires further study, including in different samples and with additional attention to confounders.
suicidal ideation (SI)
If you having difficulties with the credible studies, let me know.
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From your first linked study:
1.20).ConclusionsAlthough there was a strong association between cannabis use and suicide, this was explained by markers of psychological and behavioural problems. These results suggest that cannabis use is unlikely to have a strong effect on risk of completed suicide, either directly or as a consequence of mental health problems secondary to its use.
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That's not the point, is it? You're not getting it!
I'm done with this.
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lads - we are talking about suicide and here ye are tearing strips of each other - this might be the internet but no one knows what's going on in anyone's lives here.. so BE NICE, and RESPECTFUL - everyone is entitled to their opinion - this is not a court of law
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Saw a boat searching the river by union quay Thursday night.
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A January 2022 review article in the American Journal of Psychiatry supports the position that while there seems to be little question about a link between cannabis use and psychoses such as schizophrenia, the all-important question of causality has not yet been put to bed.
I’m assuming that the causal link between schizophrenia and suicidal ideation isn’t in dispute.
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Closer to home. From this mornings Irish Times, this is real life. I can't provide a link as it's on the ePaper.
The last line is very clear in terms of the discussion here and should satisfy the deniers!!
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March 9, 2024|Page 5
Psychosis linked to heavy cannabis use
FIACHRA GALLAGHER and
EOIN REYNOLDS On November 4th, 2021, Diego Costa Silva killed his wife while in a state of cannabis-induced psychosis at their home in Finglas, northwest Dublin.
Yesterday, a jury found him not guilty of Fabiola De Campos Silva’s murder, by reason of insanity. During the trial, two forensic consultant psychiatrists gave evidence that he was suffering from cannabis-induced psychosis with symptoms including paranoia, delusions and auditory hallucinations.
Psychosis can be described as someone “losing touch with reality”, according to Prof Des Crowley, assistant director of substance misuse at the Irish College of General Practitioners.
“It can be in the form of a delusion – a patient or person misinterprets reality,” Prof Crowley said. “For example, they think that the television is talking to them, or people are talking about them.”
Psychosis can also trigger hallucinations – sufferers might hear voices, or see things that are not there.
“That’s often when people can be told to hurt themselves or to hurt other people,” Prof Crowley said.
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Some girl assaulted outside GPO Thursday morning guy arrested yesterday in court today.
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He must have been strung out on strong weed!
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Has a nerve been struck with the evidence provided that you asked for?
You would want to have a hard look at yourself for making light of an assault in the city centre
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That weed is responsible for an uprise in anti social behaviour, is a ridiculous notion driven by a prohibitionist agenda. And the posting of an extremely outlying, frankly bizzare case does nothing to bolster the argument. Alcohol induced psychosis is also a thing, as is connections with alcohol and schizophrenia . As is psychosis related to all sorts of things all of which are mostly related to preexisting mental illness or brain damage.
I could post reports relating to diet and psychosis or food allergies and psychosis but it wouldn't suggest links to an uptick in anti social behaviour in Cork.
You talk about insensitivity regarding an assault..... I consider calling suicide anti social behaviour to be the height of insensitivity.
And I think trying to second guess on a public forum the reasons why people locally may have committed suicide is pretty appalling. Imagine being a relative of someone who took their life and reading some stranger's hot take on here that it is probably the weed what done it! Despite knowing nothing about the person or situation. That's what got my back up. I've known too many people who have taken their lives to be listening to these ill informed opinions without challenging them.
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You are the ONLY one suggesting as part of this conversation that weed is responsible for an increase in anti social behaviour. So either read the discussion properly or crawl back under your rock. You are neither funny or informed but you are extremely disrespectful to those unfortunate enough to have suffered as a result of this epidemic.
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Why in Fcuks name, did you bring weed into a thread on anti social behaviour, so?
I am not the one second guessing why people are committing suicide. That was you. Perhaps you feel bad about that and are trying to project that guilt on to me. That is a common trick.
Calling you out on your second guessing is not disrespectful to anyone who has suffered loss, quite the opposite.
I accused you of being insensitive and disrespectful and your response was to just accuse me of the same but with no argument as to how I was disrespectful. Disagreeing with you is not disrespectful to those who have suffered loss (loss that I am well familiar with). Pretty lame.
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Intereting to see what sentence comes of that very unfortunate incident.
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Man appears in court over random assault of well-known Dublin businesswoman in Cork
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Have we a new Mod ?
(Not clear on the mobile version).
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Possibly offering a chocolate bar?
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What the actual codswallop is that post?
If they know of any.. the audacity and arrogance.
Try this one.
PMCID: PMC3927252 PMID: 24574553
Cannabis and psychosis: Neurobiology
Amresh Shrivastava,1,2 Megan Johnston,3 Kristen Terpstra,4 and Yves Bureau5
Cannabis is involved in approximately 50% of psychosis, schizophrenia, and schizophreniform psychosis cases. Any search of pubmed will flood you with results.
Here are another 80 published peer-reviewed papers on the same subject if you don't deem that one "credible". I could go on, but boards cuts off at a certain number of chars..
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Sporina is always trying to police other people's posts. I've even received pms telling me off.
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Seriously, why are people trying to second guess why people have committed suicide on a thread about anti social behaviour?
Firstly, equating suicide with anti social behaviour is rather insensitive.
Think of the families and friends of people who have taken their lives. Do they want to be reading people's speculation on why their loved ones took their lives. Speculation from people that didn't know the victims or their circumstances.
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Nice fella, I'm glad the judge suspended half his last sentence so he was able to commit another vicious unprovoked attack. The phrase "lock him up and throw away the key" is very apt.
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Poor woman.
Come on AGS, time to get visible and vocal on the streets
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I'd be happier if that animal had been given a full sentence last time, instead of half it suspended. You ruin someones life and face and you get 2.5 years? And he would of been out on licence after about 18 months.
That should of been a 10 year sentence and you he serves every day of it.
Sentenced also had previous convictions then for assault causing harm and carrys knives. He is clearly unfit to be part of society.
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is that your idea of fun? if so, thats pretty grim
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What are you on about now? Care to explain??
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suicide touches lives in every circle.. even on boards no doubt - so a reminder to be nice is no harm - and seems necessary
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OK. But I still don't understand what is so grim about a comment regarding your feeble attempts at back seat moding! Except maybe the back seat moding attempt itself!!!
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