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Pubs of Ireland (No More)

  • 24-01-2023 5:00pm
    Registered Users Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭brokenbad

    How many pubs in your local town or village have closed permanently over the last decade? Here goes me.....


    1. The Manor
    2. Annie Kelly's (Now a beauty salon)
    3. The Copper Pot Still
    4. De Bruns
    5. Hugh Lynchs (recently closed - rumours that its been converted into apartments)
    6. The Mallet Tavern
    7. No.1 (Formerly Phoenix Arms Hotel - now Boots Chemist)
    8. The hole in the wall
    9. Forresters (Now a Thai Restaurant)
    10. Loughreys & Cellar Bar (Formerly High Street House - now a Restaurant/B&B)
    11. Kevin Martins/ The Hideout
    12. The Offaly Inn (Now apartments)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp

    I'm in a small rural town. Hardly 10% of the size of Tullamore.

    Pubs closed include:

    Ramada Hotel 3km outside of the town. Now a nursing home.

    Hogan Stand - Sold, going to be turned into apartments.

    Slaney Hotel - Work just begun to turn it into 10 apartments.

    Bridge House - Rumoured to be apartments.

    Byrne's - Boarded up.

    Kealy's - Knocked down.

    Slip Inn - Now flats.

    Irish Bar - Derelict. Work started on gutting it and never progressed.

    Noeleen Browne's - for sale. Hasn't been open for a year or so.

    There's 5 pubs left and three or four of them are on life support. Only open for a few hours every night mostly as a hobby for the owners. They surely can't be making any money.

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,214 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake

    Theres work ongoing on the former Copper Still/Cosgraves building, and with the Arts Centre due to open next door to it should be back as a pub. you'd think

    The work on Lynchs is on the upstairs part of the building being converted, far as I know the pub will remain on the ground floor once it's done

    Former Loughreys is still a pub (albeit a sh1te one - the Townhouse), long way removed from having some brilliant touring bands/djs playing there regularly in its heyday

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭silliussoddius

    I would say the introduction of the minimum wage, lower interest rates which created a rake of property entrepreneurs and maybe insurance costs.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke

    Gardai can't do much about house parties until an actual criminal law is being broken (which most don't). "They're doing drugs inside" is not a reason enough to get a warrant. You can't sleep is also not a reason.

    We've had 50% of pubs close in our locality. Granted, there was only 2 and they closed because they were getting too old and the adult children had no interest. Aside from price, I think people are starting to realise there's more than just going to the pub for entertainment. Recent stats are skewed due to the couple years of the pandemic, but it seems more people are drinking again, so it must be the pub prices. When I used to drink, it was costing me €100+ per night, because I could only stomach a certain amount of pints before getting full, and it was either puke to make room or go on the small ones, which after a few pints go down a bit quicker, and are twice the price and about a third the size (if mixing with a fizzy). Then throw some badly undercooked takeaway and a taxi... Off licence prices may have increased, but it's still far cheaper than going out.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭waterwelly

    €50k for a licence is one of the smaller costs of developing a new pub from scratch.

    I can't see many bothering when you consider how many have closed over the last 10 or 15 years anyway.

    The customers are just not there any more.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭screamer

    It will just make the pubs even more unviable and lead to more closures. Example- Pub A is already established, the only one left. Along comes pub B with its new lucky bag licence. Pub B won’t be able to sell cheaper than Pub A. Promotions, happy hour etc all illegal. So, in rural areas with dwindling populations and pub goers, let’s say pub A now loses half its clients to pub B, both pubs struggle to make ends meet and close down. Yes, a master move from the fools in Dáil Éireann to further destroy the fabric of rural Ireland

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭screamer

    You want to see the costs involved in the regs to keep your licence. Fire safety measures, cctv, and of course min wages on the rise, insurance, electricity for cold rooms, breweries also charging more for kegs, and keeping the pub nicely decorated as no one will spend time or money in an ould tip. running a pub is NOT cheap and unfortunately profits are small.

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,321 ✭✭✭✭kneemos

    As somebody else said the fifty grand is loose change in the overall cost of starting a pub.

    Don't see many spending several hundred thousand on a rural pub. Doubt any bank would back them either.

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,236 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright

    Its simply just a change in the times,

    People used to be happy to have a house & go for a few drinks the weekend,

    Now you need your house, your 2 cars, your 3 holidays a year, your gadgets I pads or whatever, Your 1000 euro runners & bags,

    Other tings have taken priority over a few pints,

    In 2000 there was 500 night clubs open in the country today there are 85 , People are turning off the drink

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭thinkabouit

    3 closed last year in my local town.

    still about 13 left mostly owner operating, far too many for the size of the town.

    dunno how some are still in business, empty 85% of the time or closed 3 days a week

    When I lived in Oz I lived in town in the country side, probably about 10000 people & only had 3 pubs.

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,321 ✭✭✭✭kneemos

    Drink driving rules have done for the rural pub. Can't have five or six and mosy on home anymore.

  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 36,129 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha

    Really couldn't care less to be honest. The pub industry in Ireland is shocking corrupt with high licence fees designed to provide comfy retirements to landlords and stifle competition. In the UK, the top rate of a licence is below £2,000.

    The industry has done this to itself and is now wailing about falling revenue. Good riddance, frankly.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭brokenbad

    True - Society has changed a lot in the last 20 years. Now people are more health conscious and drink less, particularly those who go out for a long run or a cycle on a Sat/Sun morning - they don't want t be dying of a hangover from the night before. Add in Netflix, Playstations, XBox, a million TV channels to choose from which have given people more entertainment options at a fraction of the cost of going to the pub.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭brokenbad

    Other pubs around Offaly i have observed from driving through which appear to have bitten the dust also....correct me if i'm wrong.


    The Cloghan Inn


    Caman Inn?

    The Wheel Inn


    The Shannon Hotel

    The Vine House

    The Railway Bar?


    Birr/ Rath

    The Sunrise Inn

    The Swan


    The Telescope

    The Fivealley Inn





    Careys Bar





    The Midland Bar





    The Gallen Inn

    The Ball O'Malt

    Toms Tavern

    The Cosy Bar?





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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭HBC08

    This is a really good point.

    I'd happily sit in on a Saturday and have a few cans going down YouTube rabbit holes watching old matches or music.This wasn't an options years ago when you needed to go out to have some sort of interaction.

    I live in a large town in the west of Ireland,in the late 90s there were approximately 50 pubs (now even then that was very high for the population) 5 or 6 of them would have live music Thurs to Sun.There were 3 nightclubs and 3 dedicated off licences

    Now there are 17 pubs and no night clubs only off licenses are in petrol stations.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 807 ✭✭✭GavPJ

    Ah no, is Baggot's gone? Spent 2 days after a wedding in there.

    Baggot's Back door wasn't it called?

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,007 ✭✭✭✭neris

    Only 1 pub recently near me in Howth has closed down but thats been taken over by Conor McGrergor. The pubs that are all still open are very much food focused up to about 9pm for tourists and day trippers and a few of them dont really want your business if your only in for pints and are quiet then on the weekend evenings.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious

    I wouldn't be so sure. I've been to plenty of packed pubs that could be described as ould tips and the ""better"" pub up the road empty. If they're decrepit for long enough they'll become an institution

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,670 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09

    Ah,you're not factoring in supply and demand ar all. People's priorities have changed. Young people struggle to save for a house or children. Cutting out nights out are an obvious way to save money. Nowadays a couple could have one partner's wage paying for childcare, just to keep in their career.

    €50 or €100 for a night out is serious money in that case. A few cans with the lads watching a match in someone house, is much more appealing.

  • Registered Users Posts: 24,027 ✭✭✭✭Strumms

    Around here, only one pub shut down. The owners were old, retired and sold the premises and a centra was opened in the building . No loss as it was one of the less charming premises. Aesthetically and in terms of some clientele apparatus.

    the greatest loss that I was a semi regular in all be it not local was Oscar Taylor’s in Malahide… food to die for, a gentle comfy ambience, beside the seaside and just outside the genial hustle and bustle of downtown Malahide, that was a loss… a family favourite for decades…the view from the restaurant upstairs was fab. It was comfy but traditional, never modernised but you could eat your dinner off the floor it was that spotless… a real old world charm.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭waterwelly

    Pubs are closing in the UK at a rate of 1 a day. It's been going on for years same as here. I'm not sure what comparison you are trying to draw, but it's possible here that because a licence has a value people keep the show going.

    So in a small 1 pub village the owner might just fold if the value is worth zero, and the community ends up with no pub at all, whereas if the pub licence has a value it's an incentive to look after it.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,992 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious

    It is bollix the way society has changed in that regard. It wasnt so awful long ago that there was no such thing as commercial childcare. I can imagine chain childcare facilities becoming a thing in the next few years. Jeff Bezos or some other billionaire who will sprinkle formulaic rectangular childcare facilities all over the country, he will run TV adverising campaigns for them. They'll rely heavily on automation. Robot Hoovers zipping about with arms that also pick up unused toys and fukks them into a box, teletubby-like bots keeping the children occupied and one poor human begrudgingly paid minimum wage to sit in a corner and change nappies all day.