When's calving starting 2023

alan10

Bit of burst last 48 hours – 6 out, all fine will get few pics up.

6 year old Si Cow did splits on slats last ~ Thursday night, noticed Friday pm. She’s due 10th Mar, lifted last few days – no luck (presume nerve damage, 1 back leg stretched out fully behind her), vet induced her yesterday 3:30pm, I thought she dilated as felt crubs about 6am this morning, now can’t feel anything and feels like she closed up – if that’s possible? Waiting on vet to call, cow is definitely gone, just trying to save calf.

Shes gone off the grub – doesn’t take them long to go downhill when they can’t get up, vet initially said keep her going for another week.

Open for any suggestions...

farmingquestion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120137488#Comment_120137488

Stupid question, how do you breed pedigree animals? Have pedigree cow with pedigree bull?

What are the pros and cons of breeding pedigrees?

Base price

Second calf on the stand off pad this morning when I checked them at 5am. A pedigree heifer up and sucking when I arrived. I'll throw up a picture later on.

farmingquestion

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Straw looks good, how long do they keep it fairly clean?

minerleague

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120293509#Comment_120293509

Have you someone at home if things not going well on camera while you're at work?

Jb1989

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120296913#Comment_120296913

No suggestion tbh apart from maybe giving her ivy as a last result to fill the stomach if she'll eat it. Best luck tho 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

whelan2

Pedigree calf this morning up and sucking

whelan2

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Yes pedigree bull and pedigree female. Supposed to get extra money for pedigree stock

Tonynewholland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120296913#Comment_120296913

There's not much you can do for her if she won't eat but the vet might try pumping fluids into her stomach. It's unlikely she has closed up but your vet could always section her save the calf.

farmingquestion

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Do you have a high percentage of difficult calving?

whelan2

No, nearly all calve themselves

emaherx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120297026#Comment_120297026

Probably about 3-4 days. But i usually try not to leave them there too long, out on grass now.

alan10

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Vet came, had to do section as calf gone way down inside and the way she lying was bad. Heifer calf alive 😀 and cow that calved yesterday taking to her. She has here own big Loki bull calf and now this Loki heifer. She's hereford w/ plenty milk so not so bad.

Cow with section gone

ABitofsense

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Yeah, father is about but I've few good neighbors who I can call on around here if anything goes abit awkward. They'd be more experienced with sucklers. Father would have being dairy so outside his comfort zone at times. I'd cover the nights, father throws the eye during day.

bogman_bass

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Well done on salvaging something from the situation

Hard Knocks

She should make a good cow

Jb1989

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Yea Well done lad. You made the best of a bad situation 👍🏽

Base price

A 3rd calver cow with twins earlier this morning. We had to sort out front legs to get a pair and a head. Hand pulled both calves, a bull and a heifer.

A second calver just calved a lump of a bull calf which we jacked and it was a good pull. All by the stock bull.

ABitofsense

I've the few that's calved out. With this expected chill next week would it be worth getting & putting the calf jackets on?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120312376#Comment_120312376

I don’t think so.

patsy_mccabe

Can anyone tell me. how the hell do you get a cow to put her head tru the calving gate once she's calved?

Had a cow calf last night, calf up and walking when I arrived in shed. For a full hour I tried to get her to go into the head gate. She'd eat nuts if i left them in the middle of the pen, but way too cute to come near the calving gate. Calf kept sucking at the head of the cow and just wouldn't move to her udder. She did latch on eventually but I was frozen standing there by then.

I just didn't trust the cow to hadle the calf in the pen.

whelan2

If you put the calf out at the front of the gate ? Sorry just saw you wouldn't trust the cow

Jb1989

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120334048#Comment_120334048

You won't, unless you can move calf which you can't, or have gates well set up to split her to crush race.

Dozer1

its all about the gate setup Patsy, I have 2 calving pens one with the 3 in 1 gate and the other is a fixed stall with the gate hanging from it from donovan's below.

its a pleasure to catch a cow in this one whereas the 3 in 1 gate is a pain in the hole for suckler's, for dairy the 3 in 1 might be fine but I'm all for having a solid gate between me and the cow and you can gently nudge her in with the gate

https://www.odonovaneng.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Calving-Stall.gif-2.gif

ABitofsense

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Nuts at head gate & close full gate around with/against her (my pins are square so easier) so she can't turn. Only hassle is usually where the calf goes. I find once they go in once & get nuts they'll do it easier next time.

I've a bosteel one similar to the Donovan one, only job.

anthony500_1

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I'd agree with others about the second gate in the pen.. Its the only job. Swing two gates in and a bit of a chain to tie them together (twine is only for tying bales in my opinion) with the cow and calf separated safely pull the calf out to the front of the head gate and she will fly out and away you go. Suckler cows must be the thickest animals on this planet when they don't want to do something.

Base price

Had to get the Vet for one of the pbr SH cows. I noticed her kicking her underbelly on the stand off pad this morning. I brought her into the straw bedded pen hoping for the best but you know when you see that sort of behaviour that there is a problem. I left her to settle and after about a hour she was pressing but nothing showing other than a bit of slime. We put her in behind the gate and OH handled her. The calf was upside down with both legs and the head back. OH got the calf righted and the legs up but couldn't keep the head in position. Called the Vet and he arrived 15 mins later (we were lucky) and we pulled a big roan heifer calf. Thankfully the cow got up after a few mins and licked the calf. I didn't take a pic as we were flat out trying to feed the rest of the cattle before the snow set in.

whelan2

Was the calf alive?

Base price

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120339436#Comment_120339436

The calf was up standing within 5 mins looking to suck the cow.

Ladeeen

Great going all round!

Anto_Meath

That was a good result @Base price when your luck is in its a great thing & a nice Roan heifer to go with it.

Base price

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120339944#Comment_120339944

I'm delighted cause it's her first heifer calf the other two were bulls.

ABitofsense

No 4 calved. Lovely red Saler heifer calf of black 24mth old LMx heifer. Calved herself in 20min. Needed a little hand to get started sucking but flying now.

Always nervous with heifers as hard to know how they'll be, they either want to kill the calf/you or completely ignore the calf or obsessed with it so much wont let it suck.

minerleague

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Dont know how close to head gate you can get them, but I tie a long rope high up on one side of head gate, around cow and back up to other side of head gate and reel her in bit by bit. Use a light field gate to keep between us and stop her turning around. I know people laugh at using baling twine but I find it handy in situations like this in that you can just cut it quickly if needed

Base price

A pic of the pb heifer calf that was coming upside down.

Albert Johnson

That looks a smashing outfit Base and there in the lap of luxury. I love to see good Shorthorn's as there so rare compared to the majority that are only colours with big heads and narrow arses. There's something about nice roan cattle that just looks the part imo.

patsy_mccabe

Went into the calving pen today to give it a bit of a tidy. Normally throw out any dung heaps, tidy straw etc. The cow in there had only dunged in one corner of the shed, at the lowest point neat the gate. Now I know horses, donkeys will dung in the one area, but never a cow. Right impressed, I was.

She's the cleanest cow I have too. Likes to keep herself presentable.

Anto_Meath

@patsy_mccabe I have a cow like that, she is a bucket reared hereford, the neatest, cleanest tidiest cow around the place, there is never a spec of dirt on her and when she is in the calving shed very easy to keep clean. I have twin daughters of hers coming into the herd that year, will be interesting to see if they are as good as her. They seem ok so far.

squinn2912

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120305018#Comment_120305018

What breeding is the stock bull?

squinn2912

Well lads hows things? Joining in a bit late but sure yous might still have me. We’re about halfway through calving now with 14 on the ground. There’s 11 cows left to calve and there will be a bust of them any time now. Didn’t keep on any heifers for the spring this time just the way the year went but we have 8 sim/lim girls joining the autumn herd all scanned in calf. New bull throwing good calves and we hadn’t the jack out yet. I’ll take that, esp for Charolais!

Base price

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120377337#Comment_120377337

Shorthorn by YKK - Ballyart Lucky.

Dunedin

All finished here. 20 cows and 19 calves. Lad died at a week old and never really took off and went downhill very quickly.

used the jack 4 times and had one section so plenty of work but all worked out ok.

turned out cows and calves to bird cover on Saturday as they were just mad to get out. Praying we don’t get too much rain now but at least it’s very mild.

Sugarbowl

Ive 40% calved. Use easy calving AI bulls. All coming rather big for me this year. Have had to help cows calf Loyal which shouldn’t be the case. Perhaps my cows have had too good a winter feed. Another bunch of Loyals to come in the next 2 weeks so interesting to see how they come out.

squinn2912

Multi tasking at school. This cow just fired out her 5th calf I think it is. Dunno why we put her with the Lim bull I think she’d cross well with the ch.

patsy_mccabe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120378750#Comment_120378750

Ya, cow calved here on Saturday to Loyal. Surprised at how big he was. Mild winter and good silage - not good for calving.

Hard Knocks

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She’d be perfect for the golden Charolais

squinn2912

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120381275#Comment_120381275

Yea a super cow that always farts out the calf and up sucking in no time. Had one poor calf everything else a smasher. He took joint ill it held him back but he survived. Even a ch heifer calf cos she has buckets of milk. I love a ch cow if she comes from milky background then head back lim direction

squinn2912

Couple of snaps of ch calves just to show yous. That’s one fostering the mother died of tetany

Limestone Cowboy

Bad day to enter the world.

Itryhard

Big baby