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When's calving starting 2023

  • 06-01-2023 10:58pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 28,727 ✭✭✭✭


    New year, new thread. Good luck all with calving 2023



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,055 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Just putthe 1st one under the camera. I'd say she's going to calve tonight but with heifers you never know do you?




  • Registered Users Posts: 28,727 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    We'd our first one last night. In cubicle shed, cow not supposed to be due until February so wasn't watching her. Kept to first service . Fr7152. Small heifer



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,055 ✭✭✭Grueller


    2 done. 2 friesian heifers. Both from sexed semen.

    Both actually calved after 267 and 269 days.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,727 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    261 days here, served 21st April. Very short imo. Calf up and drinking but very small



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,859 ✭✭✭emaherx


    First Due here 30th of Jan, spent the morning cleaning the cameras. Cameras over the slats were completely unviewable with grime on the lenses.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    4 calved here. All calved on their own but the first one won’t suck the cow or a bottle. I get one or two like this every year and it would break your heart.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Sometimes it is quicker to just go for the stomach tube at the start. It can be sore on the poor feckers though.

    You could try the "Madigan squeeze". I think you are supposed to do it within the first 24 hours though for it to work. It seems a bit mad the first time you do it though. The animal just conks out. Edit to add: See video below

    I think they did it first on foals but some say they have success with it on calves. It kind of "reboots" them. That is the theory anyway


    In most cases though it's just a matter of feeding them manually until they start sucking. Could be a day or could be a week



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Get a shot of mederantril and b12 off the vet. Normally gets them going here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Dunedin




  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭Gudstock


    Get a 60ml syringe and give him a tub of natural yogurt nice and easy. The texture of it makes them swallow it the right way. I kept a dumb blue going for 2 or 3 days with it last year before then doing the madigan squeeze then which got him sucking from a bucket and then training to cow.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭tellmeabit




  • Registered Users Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    It's easy to do. There isn't a particular knack or trick in it or anything. And you don't put that much pressure on the rope. The calf just lies down as if he is asleep



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,842 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Do you keep the expectant mothers in a paddock close to the shed, or do you let out as they calve



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,866 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    Thats mad! never seen or heard tell of that before!

    Wonder if it works?



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Have done it twice. The calf started sucking soon an hour or so afterwards for one, but not the other one. Took a few days for the second one but it wasn't done until the calf was over a day old. Whether it "worked" or whether it was coincidence for those specific cases is something that I don't know. There are scientific studies though that say that it can help.


    The idea is that it is supposed to mimic the calf being born. So it's supposed to trigger whatever the natural instinct is for the calf to suck which might not have been triggered when it was actually being born



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,989 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    At the moment they are on the stand off pad with access to the slatted unit where they are fed silage at the moment. I will start giving them oats & minerals in a couple of weeks time. If the weather is good enough cows go out with their calves. Later on the ones that haven't calved go on a sacrifice paddock beside the yard until they calve.



  • Registered Users Posts: 988 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Any harm to ask are you collecting effluent off that pad? or whats it made from?



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,989 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Yes it's collected into a smaller underground tank that then runs into the slatted unit. There are drainage pipes underneath the stone and it's covered with woodchip that we get locally.



  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Don't have them that often but when you're a week into it with a calf,this seems like the softer alternative



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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    As far as I know, it's not as effective when the animal is a bit older. Vet told us first 24 hours. But it was new to him at the time as well. Probably not going to cause any issues giving it a go though on one a few days old. It might be just less likely to have any effect



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy




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