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What are the biggest “what ifs” in Irish sports?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ Did you smash it

    Saipan is best viewed as not a story of keane vs McCarthy but an indictment of how the drinking culture and the culture of loveable disorganization in ireland’s international team ultimately led to Ireland playing in a World Cup without its best player.

    the rights and wrongs of the argument are far less important than the overall context of Ireland being a kind of banana republic when it comes to setting standards of organization and preparation.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,506 ✭✭✭✭ Mad_maxx

    We’d have been beaten by the All Blacks the following week, Ireland were a poor team in 91., very poor

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ Did you smash it

    Doubt they get that much to be honest. I’d say any funding irish Olympic competitors get in the winter or summer games is hard earned.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ Did you smash it

    i agree with all the stuff about facilities.

    one other thing I’d mention is that to play football on an Astro pitch in Ireland you have to pay money.

    I live in Poland, so so many schools have great astro pitches and you can walk on them for free and play away once school is out. I presume much of Europe is the same.

    in Ireland between funding, insurance and vandalism there’s no chance of that ever happening.

    the biggest what if or maybe imponderable is that if Ireland was blessed to have a Messi or Neymar born on its territory how far would they go in life compared to the real messi/Neymar. I’m not sure if they would achieve anything like what the actual versions did. Just think we are so far behind to support elite talent

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,952 ✭✭✭✭ breezy1985

    We would have sat back not gotten the second penalty at still ended 1-1.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,361 ✭✭✭✭ cj maxx

    If nudie hughes goal bound shot had been 2 inches more to the left it would have went in the net instead of bouncing out Monaghan would have won the 1985 All Ireland. That was some team.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭ Eoinbmw

    What if Neil back had been penalized in 02!

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭ gameoverdude

    One, I may well remember incorrectly, is itialia 90. Wasn't there an offside given against an injured Irish player in the Italian penalty area (Sheridan perhaps?).

  • Horse Racing is almost built on what ifs, What if Golden Cygnet had not been fatally injured? Would have been around with the greatest collection of hurdlers to grace the sport.

    And what if Martin Donnelly's suspension hadn't broken at Jerez, could we have had a World Champion? Probably not, but a multi GP winner anyway.

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭ StevenToast

    Agreed but the semi final hoodoo wouldnt have been hanging over the team ever since.

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher

  • Registered Users Posts: 21,925 ✭✭✭✭ Strumms

    Sport in this country has been chronically underfunded. For decades, still is.

    the point you make about hockey is excellent, yet depressing. Imagine with proper investment and resources for sports and sports people… the successes we’d have had throughout the years… ?! Over multiple sports… ‘what if’….is right

    it’s a country with motivated people at grassroots level with significant interest and passion for sports…. But a country with small minded politicians that sees our money fecked off away on virtue signaling and random overseas ‘aid’…. Which offers zero encouragement to foreign governments to sort out their own issues..

    Luxembourg with a population of around 646,000…. Look at some of their sports facilities….puts us to shame.

    The Republic of ‘IF’ we only had…..

  • Registered Users Posts: 717 ✭✭✭ 20Wheel

    What if ... inconsequential sports results werent read out on the radio as cheap airtime filler.

    How many hours of my life have been involuntarily filled with hearing background noise about St Gilberts junior teams triumph in the avonmore league.

    Putin is a dictator. Putin should face justice at the Hague. All good Russians should work to depose Putin. Russias war in Ukraine is illegal and morally wrong.

  • Registered Users Posts: 888 ✭✭✭ Count Dracula

    I would be more interested in finding out where it does go tbh. Which sports body are your referring to? It isn't the GAA, I know that for a fact and I doubt it is the IRFU either. The FAI were crippled by a culchie with notions.

    Which one ?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,952 ✭✭✭✭ breezy1985

    Quinn was creaking too and Matty Holland was nothing special.

  • Registered Users Posts: 21,500 ✭✭✭✭ Larbre34

    Then we wouldn't be the global leader in horse sport that we are.

    The Equine sports contribute in the massive amount of activity based taxes that they generate, as well as employment and supply.

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,952 ✭✭✭✭ breezy1985

    All business and sport supports employment and indirect tax. Don't all get the nice perks that the well connected posh boy sport gets though.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭ Cosmo Kramer

    What if Michelle Smith had retired straight after Atlanta and never swam competitively again? Would she be a national hero today - quite possibly.

    What if there was no GAA and the effort, resources and playing numbers that go into GAA were put into soccer, rugby and Olympic sports instead? Would we be a kind of New Zealand of the northern hemisphere - among the best in the world in a number of different sports?

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,952 ✭✭✭✭ breezy1985

    I think if Smith retired immediately after it would have just fueled the doping rumours. The casual fan would probably love her though.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭ DJIMI TRARORE

    What if Karius,sorry it's still too soon

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