Is Elon Musk hurting Tesla? (Mod Note Post #1)

Nickindublin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123492339#Comment_123492339

Its like a Turkey voting for Xmas.

prawnsambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123493062#Comment_123493062

Not sure why it's the most suitable? Isn't the major factor in owning an EV the ability to install a charger? And the areas with the most lack in that regard are big cities with limited or no off street parking in many areas.

Commuting distances are generally not large outside Dublin whereas there can be great distances from the dormitory counties like Wicklow, Meath and Kildare. Round trip commutes of >100km are routine.

I would have considered financial considerations would be (up to now) much more a factor than commuting distance or suitability (whatever that means). Dublin and surrounding counties being more affluent.

MightyMunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123493062#Comment_123493062

VW EVs are also more concentrated in the places you listed.

Rural Ireland is much more suitable for EVs as people are more likely to have their own driveways. Wake up every morning with enough range to get to the other side of the island.

DrPsychia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123493062#Comment_123493062

It's also a matter of income and affordability. Incomes and Disposable incomes are significantly higher in Dublin than the rest of the country. Dublin has a lot of tech and financial services companies and a lot of people working in those sectors in my experience are more likely to be 'early adopters' or are more receptive to Teslas/EVs. So when your colleague buys one, then another colleague and so on, they're talking about how nice they are to drive, low running costs etc.

sk8board

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123493247#Comment_123493247

sorry, I was referring to ICE cars, as in, a car brand that’s not EV-only can easily be sold countrywide, without a geographic or usage concern.

Tesla have a big suitability issue if you’re not in Dublin, if you talk to people rurally. The lack of showroom network is a big part of that.

Have you ever noticed how many Corolla saloons there are in rural Ireland? 😄

sk8board

That might make sense in theory, except the sales numbers say that it’s exactly the opposite, and countryside dwellers have almost no interest in EVs, with 25% of EV sales (and only 10% of Tesla’s) across 21 rural counties.

Sticking to the topic, Tesla have a sales network problem of course, which might explain the gap in rural sales.

sk8board

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123493597#Comment_123493597

Theres very little data to back up that claim when you include where the debt is, alongside the income, disposable or otherwise.

As for the Tech Bro stuff, it’s pretty clear for years that people with little interest in cars, but an interest in tech, will tend worsted’s Tesla - but that also means that rural dwelling farmers or people towing horses wouldn’t have an EV option to buy even if they wanted to.

I think you’re being a bit blinkered if you think there isn’t money to buy a medium family car outside of the Pale in the same % numbers as inside it.

MightyMunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123494153#Comment_123494153

It's an EV issue in general, VW in your example are at nearly 75% of their EVs being sold in the counties you listed vs around 60% of overall sales.

Not as high a disparity as Tesla probably due to a wider dealer network, wider range of cars a huge fleet on the road available for trading up and their own bank which means they're really just leasing the cars

prawnsambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123494185#Comment_123494185

Might that have something to do with population density? I'd expect those rural counties to be around 25% of the population.