Do you ever offer your seat to women for no reason?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119963397#Comment_119963397

It'd be bad form not to, surely?

And if someone is VERY elderly - frail, out of breath, struggling - of course a seat should be given to them. Calling that ageist is stupid.

Quitelife

saw a older bloke one night on luas get up to let middle aged female sit down and she ate the head off him , on about him been sexist etc .

you can’t win in modern Ireland , best never offer your seat or hold the door or you’ll be accused of sexism

Bet that's rare. I don't know any woman who'd behave in that way. She was just a cu*t.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119961161#Comment_119961161

Yeah maybe old school chivalry is dead. Normal good manners still exist. What's considered good manners changes over time.

The complaint seems to be that women killed chivalry which is inconvenient for men who hold old school values of giving their seat or holding a door for women.

I can't help thinking the ones who want to hold doors or give their seat to women would also be the ones who give out yards about feminism and women having more rights than men.

Mad idea, just treat people roughly equally well regardless of gender. If someone looks like they need a seat for whatever reason, it's good manners to offer then the seat. Suggesting women need your seat because they're women and you're a man, is likely to be perceived as patronising by lots of people. Offering your seat to someone who looks like they need it is likely to be perceived as good manners.

Schnooks

Like most of the posters already stated, if someone looks like they need the seat (elderly, pregnant, disabled etc) I will immediately jump up and offer my seat, regardless of gender (yes I know men can't get pregnant, or can they these days???!!! 😀), ye know what I mean.

I hold doors open for everyone, and if I don't receive a thanks or some sort of nod in acknowledgement, I say "you're welcome", again regardless of gender or age.

Common courtesy and manners cost nothing and is something we should all practice, regardless of gender, age etc. This includes being mannerly to staff in shops, public transport, restaurants etc. My 16 yo son has had this taught to him from a very early age, as did I.

The world works alot better if we treat each other with respect, regardless of which category we fit into of the ones stated above.

@El_Duderino 09

@El_Duderino 09 "I can't help thinking the ones who want to hold doors or give their seat to women would also be the ones who give out yards about feminism and women having more rights than men" - you can be sure of it. They're thinking what they want to think. Most women think it's lovely and decent when a man is chivalrous.

Esel

Only if they are elderly, invalid, and look pregnant.

Electric Gypsy

Had to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3pAAR5TAt0&ab_channel=HockeyDz

nigeldaniel

I am old school and yes I often do. Although mostly with reason. If I saw an old guy loaded down I would offer up a seat to him too. It's nothing about chivalry at all but about being kind. The world lacks it these days. Its true some women don't like it but that is not my problem that would be theirs.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119964348#Comment_119964348

Never lower yourself just because some people are cnuts. I offer my seat to anyone that looks like they need it more than me.

Strumms

Best way of doing it… “ hello, I say, a spare seat here for you Madame…. I’ll be alighting off this abomination of a trolley car…to take soup, with my neighbour, Mr Feinstein… I hope you find the seat warm and to your liking, I bid you good day. “

Riddle101

Depends. If I'm on a packed bus and there is an old woman or someone that looks like they need it more than me then yeah I would probably offer my seat. Then again, I'd do the same if it was a man as well.

Hotblack Desiato

Basically when you offer a seat to a non-OAP you're saying

"Hi, I think you're either morbidly obese or third trimester pregnant, not sure, but it's probably pregnant"

Risky game.

Read an article once about tips for canvassing door to door, one was never ask "when's it due" unless you can actually see the head beginning to emerge (which would render the question moot in any case)

Hyperbollix

No, only if they're elderly, disabled, hot, heavily pregnant or all of the above.

gameoverdude

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119968284#Comment_119968284

You're a picky one.

One eyed Jack

Do I offer women a seat for no reason? No.

Is it chivalry? Sure, but I just call it basic manners, seems reason enough.

You might just be overthinking it OP if you dwell on it too long, but it’s never been an issue and it’s never caused an issue.

blackbox

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119968284#Comment_119968284

I don't include the hot ones. They look better standing up.

cj maxx

Definitely not. The last time I was on a dublin bus ( about 2 1/2 years ago , I got glares from passengers for not giving a rather plump woman my seat near the door . A lot of head’s dropped when I grabbed my walking stick and the driver helped me with-the step !

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119968478#Comment_119968478

Do you honestly do it though? When's the last time you offered your seat to a woman who wasn't obviously in need of it?

One eyed Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119968896#Comment_119968896

Nah, I don’t do it honestly, I offer them a seat, and if they say yes, I thumb my nose at them like a five year old child and stay sitting 😂

Of course I do it honestly, last week in the vets, woman came in with her dog, I was sitting in the only available chair, seemed like the obvious thing to do. She said she was grand and I thought no more of it until just now when you asked me when was the last time I did it.

BattleCorp

My parents are ba5tards. They taught me that it was polite and mannerly to hold a door open for a woman or give up my seat to them while all along it was misogynistic and Hitler-like. Off to China with me to one of them re-education camps.

Pauliedragon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119961468#Comment_119961468

Do u offer your seat to a man? The thing about giving a seat to a woman was based on the assumption women are weak and can't stand up for long. Women are just as fit as men these days. I've an iffy ankle and limp from time to time. Never once has a woman offered me a seat plenty of men have. I've always refused as it's not that bad.

Andrea B.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119969102#Comment_119969102

"these days"

😂😂😂😂

BattleCorp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119964348#Comment_119964348

She sounds like a right cnut. I hope he gave her a mouthful back.

xxxxxxl

I hold doors if people are carrying items. Hold it if I'm going through it and someone wants to come in. Will give my seat if someone looks like they need it. Even let people ahead of me in a que if the have less items. Life is to short to be in a mad rush all the time.

89897

Absolutely dying at the "they did this to themselves" "modern Ireland" "get called a sexist" responses. Some people are dicks pure and simple and some people will still have the old fashioned give women a seat mentality.

If getting bodily autonomy, the right to divorce an abusive man, being able to have my own bank account, being able to speak up after abuse and be believed etc are the trade off for some bitter dope not giving up their seat on a train then im all for that!

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119969057#Comment_119969057

Yeah, I mean comparing some minor aspect of modern life some people find annoying to possibly the most evil human in history is not stupid at all

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119968078#Comment_119968078

I had this debate raging in my head one time on a busy train. Another woman got up and gave the pregnant lady a seat. At that point I offered my seat to the person who had given up their seat, making a bit of a joke about my dilemma.

20Wheel

If theyre hot I might offer them a seat on my face.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119969057#Comment_119969057

Anyone here saying it's misogynistic etc though? Most people don't think that at all. They just think it's good manners and kind.

I think some guys choose to believe most women have a huge problem with chivalry.