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Burger quality

  • 29-11-2022 6:14pm
    Registered Users Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro

    Anyone noticed this with restaurants / pubs?

    Burger now costing 18 - 20 EUR.

    OK, I am willing to accept and pay a premium for a good burger, served on a plate, not a wooden board.

    Twice recently, I have had to complain and with-hold payment.

    Burgers with all the trimmings, posh chips with skin-on.

    However, the burgers have the consistency of a rubber gammon steak, and not real meat, like I would expect.

    I will not accept this type of race to the bottom.



  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭GoogleBot

    Or as alternative go to just eat and order real beef steak with chips and drink for 15 euro.

  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭GoogleBot

    Would you fancy Triple Decker Club Sandwich? : ))

  • I really don't mind paying 20 quid for a burger, but in a place renowned for its burgers. Like the aforementioned 5 guys. Somewhere that specializes in burgers.

    There are a lot of "trendy" places that make all the trendy mistakes in burger making. As has already been said, 2 inches thick(with an additional 2 inches per bun), so you can't comfortably get your teeth around it. It happened to me recently the only way I could eat the burger comfortably, was with a knife and fork. Half the salad drawer on top of it. And yes, a massive onion ring on top is just the killer.

    And chips in a miniature galvanised bucket is the clincher.

    Also that chicken looks like it might have been cooked on the radiator.

    Thats chicken?!? Looks like ham.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,052 ✭✭✭✭recode the site

    Have you sampled Burgerstory in Galway? Best of all the places in Ireland.

    Boys and girls, repeat after me 20 times: “I should have known, but I had to learn”.

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,052 ✭✭✭✭recode the site

    As far as I’m concerned this is the centre of excellence of the burger in Ireland

    Boys and girls, repeat after me 20 times: “I should have known, but I had to learn”.

  • Ive not been in Galway City for anything but medical appointments in... years. And even then burgers weren't at the forefront of my mind.

    I know this is blasphemy to say as a Galwayman, but I don't really like Supermacs. In the cheap(ish) burger category, the XL Bacon Double Cheeseburger from Burger King is my favourite, but there's only one BK in Galway.

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,052 ✭✭✭✭recode the site

    Superman’s is appalling. ButtersSuki is a Galway man by double heritage and upbringing but speaks with a middle class Doobalin accent, he loathes Supermacs too, but never heard of Burgerstory. Neither have my Galway relatives. Hiding in plain sight, very subtly near the teapot place, whatever they call it. Absolutely fab burgers and incredibly chicken breast burgers and chips, brioche buns. You’d so easily miss it, they have tables out during good weather, otherwise it’s minuscule indoors and I think a tiny bit of seating upstairs.

    Boys and girls, repeat after me 20 times: “I should have known, but I had to learn”.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,052 ✭✭✭✭recode the site

    I have absolutely no commercial interest in the place but when an establishment gets it right they merit the credit

    There are outstanding food establishments in Galway, Kirwan’s is my favourite seafood restaurant, really fab, down the magical Kirwan’s Lane. I don’t own a great bistro of my namesake, terrific other places too.

    Boys and girls, repeat after me 20 times: “I should have known, but I had to learn”.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro

    Triple-decker or club sandwiches can be done well.

    In USA there's a big problem with the cocktail sticks... People bite down on the sandwich without first removing the stick.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,547 ✭✭✭DublinWriter

    Yeah Burgr are perhaps the best chain currently. They're only in Wexford, Drogheda, Maynooth and Navan.

    The lunch special is only €10. FXB are their meat suppliers.

    Eddie R's has gone to sh*te over the past year. Only in 5 Guys once, found it very greasy.,Burgr%20app%20for%20delivery%20%26%20takeaway.

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep

    From a Dublin perspective, the only burger restaurants I've bothered with in recent years are Bunsen and Dash Burger.

    I feel like Bunsen, as it has grown, has dipped slightly in quality, but Dash Burger are still delivering a very good smash burger experience that's hard to replicate at home even if you know your technique (And I think I do).

    Even the triple smash cheeseburger at Dash is under 10 euro.

    I agree with Awec's point in general that the thick puck-style burger that you find in many gastropubs and restaurants do nothing for me. The taller that pile gets, with various toppings, the more necessary is the wooden needle they stick through it to hold the whole thing together. You end up with something that looks like a burger but in practical terms can't be eaten like a thinner smash burger can. GBK are a huge offender here, and they compound things by using very dry, mealy buns. Always remember the cardinal rule that the bun should be softer than its contents, for the most part.

  • Registered Users Posts: 23,105 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06

    There was an AH thread recently trashing 'tower' burgers:

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,738 ✭✭✭gameoverdude

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,738 ✭✭✭gameoverdude

    Outstanding. 1 billion percent agree.

    Wouldn't be getting that muck at the RDS.

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep

    Dash Burger today, inspired by this thread. This was 14 euro or so.

  • Registered Users Posts: 10,204 ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh

    Yeah, that looks like a proper burger @Black Sheep. Although I do like pickles in a burger (at least there are onions ;) @the beer revolu).

    No Dash here in Cork. Would Bunsen be the closest? I've yet to try Bunsen, but very few of my friends like burgers :/

    Might do it solo...


    I have a problem with the brioche buns though; they are too sweet, and so soft that the burger falls apart and you end up eating chunks of mush🤢

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,738 ✭✭✭gameoverdude

    I thought this was a burger thread?

    A slow pulled burger is bollix.

    Hand span is good, but it doesn't seem right about the burger. Consistency by looks.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,738 ✭✭✭gameoverdude

    Concur with brioche. Too sweet and too doughy.

    Cheap seasamed bun from lidl is grand. I like honest burger buns who don't mind being toasted. They're just for gripping.

    Brioche buns are the kardashians of the burger world.

  • Registered Users Posts: 674 ✭✭✭RainInSummer

    Was in Bunsen pre pandemic and it was desperate. It's like they salted the meat and then processed it. Resulting in a horrid bouncy rubber puck of a patty.

    The fries and other stuff were ok, but I was left bewildered as to their reputation.

    Best recent burger was oddly Brasserie 66. They had the cop on to leave the sauce as a side dish so you could decide whether it went in the burger or on the fries.

    It was a bit on the tall side but kept it's shape from start to finish.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,738 ✭✭✭gameoverdude

    Sauce on the side is a good one.

    Been there and ligament damage trying to encompass the burger. Jealous of your big grapples.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,738 ✭✭✭gameoverdude

    Huge problem with that I hear as well.

    They're called eejits.

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep

    Hah, no, no "slow pulled" (slow cooked?) technique going on in Dash burger.

    Google smash burger and you'll get a sense of the method involved. Pretty nippy way of cooking burger patties actually.

    The bun in Dash is actually what yanks call a potato bun, don't know anywhere else doing them.

    I get my buns from Lidl or Aldi and although I don't mind the cheapest of the cheap I do like the premium brioche buns they do. They aren't overly sweet, not like a breakfast brioche or anything.

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep

    As far as Bunsen goes- if it suits I would try them but I probably wouldn't go out of my way either. I've had good burgers there early on but now it feels like they're phoning it in.

    Not smash burger style, more conventional but still aiming for a soft bun and a moist patty.

    Haven't had Five Guys in years, not sure how I would rate them compared to Bunsen.

    Wow Burger is a step down but it's not "bad", it's still better than the 20 quid restaurant burgers.

  • Most of the burgers served up in pubs, hotels and cheap restaurants these days are coming in ready to be cooked from a Musgraves, Corrib Catering, Pallas Food truck. That fairly generic menu you see in a lot of places - burger, chicken burger, chowder, wings, goats cheese starter, roast of the day - is always a sign.

    Can't necessarily blame places with the shortage of chefs etc, but it is just a reheat and serve operation for the most part.

    The best burger I've had in a long time is from a place called Wingman Van. They do either a smash or regular style using a mince mix from Higgins Butchers in Sutton. Went to the one in Kilbarrack, but I think they've expanded to a few other places since.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭satguy

    €16.95 for a burger in my local,, O'Gormans of Kilminchy ...

    Some are way too tall, you end up eating them with a knife & fork .. But if you order well,, some are OK for hand eating..

    And yes, the 10 chips are in a miniature galvanised bucket, for your annoyance.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,738 ✭✭✭gameoverdude