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Ireland the land of taxes and endless "fees"

  • 23-11-2022 11:57pm
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭Nighttime22

    Why is it in this country we seem to be paying high tax and a never ending list of "fee's", and yet never seem to have anything of value to show for it?

    Our wages are taxed, We have to pay road tax, we have to pay a toll to use the road then, the gov have an extortionate rate of tax on fuel and the list goes on and on.... every single thing in this country is taxed, if they could gauge how many breaths of air a person took per day im sure they d try tax that too. If a person wants to set up a business there are fee's and taxes and endless bullshit and hoops deliberately designed to syphon money its actually crazy when you stand back and have a look at all the bullshit fee's and taxes there are.

    And yet some how we are still nearly a quarter of a trillion euro in debt.

    And **** all to show for it bar an extortionate cost of living and a **** healthcare system.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl

    I would just cut it to one payment everything included benchmarked stuff like that. Also done on a county basis. Someone in Tip does not need the same supports as Dublin for example.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,457 ✭✭✭joeguevara

    We’ll all tax expenditure is public. And Social Protection, Health, education and justice ate up about 80%. With social protection and health being about 50 billion.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭dotsman

    Not only is quite a lot of that pension spending on people who didn't contribute in a meaningful way (or even at all), but it is dwarfed by the huge spending on all "social" spending. Comparing it to JSA is like comparing apples to bananas.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,457 ✭✭✭joeguevara

    Our tax take is 90 billion. 188 million while seems big is only 10 times more than the Popes visit to Ireland

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,457 ✭✭✭joeguevara

    So asylum seekers get about €38 a week or €29 if a child to cover all essential items- what would you cut?

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,457 ✭✭✭joeguevara

    All toiletries, toilet paper, sanitary towels, clothes, phone calls and local travel if they are going to work which can only happen if they haven’t got a first instance recommendation on their international protection application after 6 months.

  • Registered Users Posts: 12,761 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk

    There's no road tax and MUP isn't a tax either

  • Registered Users Posts: 19,651 ✭✭✭✭zell12

    It is what we want!

    We elect these politicians in one of the fairest voting systems on the planet. Michael Lowry, Bertie Ahern, Ray Burke were all re-elected by us.

    Having said that, we should have higher direct taxes and lower indirect taxes, oh and water charges like 'normal' countries

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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,561 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy

    That's very true P but I live in Germany and we get far more value for money here than I ever did in Ireland.

  • Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭Ham_Sandwich

    goverment should be doing more for people less taxes and less charges remember the council used to do the bins they should go back to that

  • Registered Users Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭downtheroad

    Then a teacher, nurse and Garda in Tipp doesn't need the same salary as their colleague in Dublin.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,687 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78

    ...again, public debt is just the public entity of the money supply, as opposed to the private sector money supply, i.e. the credit supply, being in debt isnt always a bad thing, it just depends what that money is used for, unfortunately a significant amount of debt, in both the public and private domains, has been used to (re)inflate the value of pre existing assets, rather than using it in creating new assets, such as new properties. its always important to also remember, a significant amount of our public debt was in fact used to bail out the financial system, and it worked, but in the mean time, we fcuked over many in the process, in particular none asset owners, i.e. the young, so, go us! this form of debt is sometimes called 'odious debt', i.e. it actually wasnt used to benefit most, and imho, should be written off!