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Munster v Ulster URC round 7 Match thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Nah. You didn't know the rule until 30 seconds ago so apparently it is complicated. I'd have given red btw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,086 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Feel awful for Luke Marshall.

    Injuries have ruined his career which should have been an excellent one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,086 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Munster's lineout and ruck protection needs serious work.

    Another fluffed throw/lift then Sutherland poaches their ball twice in 90 seconds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Hume with a lovely handoff on Kilcoyne. Of all people...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭testtech05


    That is ridiculously harsh on Jordi Murphy there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,086 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Brainless from Scannell.

    Murphy even warned him not to do it right before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭bingobango12


    Frank Murphy is an embarrassment to the league. Doesn’t favour any team just ridiculously bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,846 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    2 bad calls from Murphy there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Ulster getting a bit of a doing here in terms of the last few penalties and that yellow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Hmm seemed a harsh yellow for Ulster there. Especially considering Fekitoa got the same punishment for his high shot. Would have thought that marching Ulster back another 10m would have been appropriate there



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    That yellow was a poor call. Why didn’t Niall Scannell not also get a yellow for slapping the ball out of scrum half’s hands when he was clearly warned not to? Inconsistency is the frustrating part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Moore had to stay out there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,916 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Ryle Nugent really talking Zebo up there. Am I missing something? X factor was mentioned. Was a poor enough pass for the try. Thought the Crowley pass to Zebo was lovely however.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,086 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Hugh Cahill really has a bee in his bonnet over Fekitoa.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,369 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    How is that offside from the knock on not a yellow? Deliberate and in their own 22.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,086 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Sutherland with his third poach of the half. Munster haven't come to grips with him at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭CptMonkey


    No way was that in from the side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    What a terrible kick. They could have been 5m out instead of 10.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Ah, would you use the ball Ulster. Just asking for that to be turned over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭CptMonkey


    Great defensive. Need to get back down and score.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,086 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    It's obvious that Munster have a much better attitude and physicality when compared to last season. But issues at the ruck and lineout killed so many decent attacking opportunities.

    The attacking shape is coming along and at times it stressed the Ulster defence. Silly handling errors were a big issue however.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,720 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Good stuff.

    Id say Frank is raging 😊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Big disappointed slow arm up on that last penalty.

    What's the booing about?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,061 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Duane Vermeulen is still good at rugby



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    Really poor composure from Munster throughout. Ulster spurned scoring from penalty kicks, even at only 1 point.

    First Ulster win at TP since 2014.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    Neither team really impressed me. Munster are still building, and Ulster seemed to lack a bit of power and dynamism, and their control and ball placement in the post-tackle situation were poor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,948 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Someone here posting that Kendellen would school Vermuelen 😂.

    And the over hyped Ulster backline 😂

    And Munster to win 32 - 12 😂.


    Anyway back to reality. Not a great game.





  • A win is a win is a win but Ulster were truly dreadful in the second half. Maybe the travel and the sickness took its toll but if they weren't factors you'd have to be a little worried.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,061 ✭✭✭ionadnapokot


    Marty Moore for No. 18 v SA



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Good win considering the illness that went through the squad. You should really always beat a team that is down to two academy locks and their 7th choice guy, and a ton of senior players. It should be a given, but the performance after having so much illness was impressive.

    As usual, i was impressed by munster’s young players and not impressed by the older ones generally.

    The decision not to kick the penalty near the end was puzzling. We were one Murphy special from losing that.

    I thought Crowley and Patterson were really good on their side. Edogbo and Salanoa too.



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  • Administrators Posts: 54,720 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    The decision at the end was nonsensical. 3 points there would have ended the game, take your time with the kick, gather the restart and run the clock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    I thought going up the line was the right call. Munster could have won it with a subsequent try either way, and it was an opportunity to nab the bonus point, while also keeping play deep in the Munster half. It could have been a 5m lineout, which greatly improves the chances of mauling over. But it was a poor kick from Burns.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can kill alot of time taking a penalty though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    Maybe I just have PTSD from Ireland going for goal and going 4 points up a few minutes before the end against France in 2007.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    you have a point. Also, some refs love giving penalties when you are killing time on your own ball.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,318 ✭✭✭crisco10


    Yeah, I could see the logic of going to corner. Chance of a BP, but also killing the clock in their 22.

    No matter what, facing the kick off aftwr the penalty, you'd need to find a way to close the game. And with Murphy on the whistle, you could easily end up defending a 5m lineout 4 points up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,369 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    Happy with the win, not often we collect points in TP We attacked where we knew we should, all the posters that called the maul being a key area were spot on. Nobody had a standout game - maybe Tom Stewart - but Vermuelen and Sunderland turned up in key moments. Thought McCann was finally starting to put things together before he was taken off.

    Fans must be fed up with Niall Scannell, absolute liability at times and doesn't even do the basics to a high standard anymore. Barron seems to be breaking out nicely, even if I am a little annoyed he got the nod for Ireland ahead of Stewart. Just need to wait a little on Scott Buckley.

    Munster must be sick of the constant 'transitions' and 'processes' the squad has been going through but I definitely feel they are playing better rugby, especially with the amount of injuries. It'll take a while imo because I'm just not a fan of any of their centres and I don't particularly rate their younger back three players, although Nash and Daly are playing better. Crowley must have his eyes the starting jersey for sure, I reckon he believes he's better than Carbery never mind Healy. I like a lot of their young forwards coming through, however Ahern gets injured too often and I wouldn't want to flog Edogbo as he's young and missed his u20 year so just hasn't played much senior rugby yet. Also feel like Coombes has to play to keep their backrow balanced - Hodnett and Kendellen are both some players though.

    Anyway, Ulster had a stronger team on paper so I'm happy enough we did our job. We're in a good position in the table but Munster must be feeling a little nervous right about now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,086 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    On balance, Ulster showed more cutting edge and deserved to win.

    I imagine the citing commissioner will be looking at the Vermuelen and Fekitoa incidents closely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Frustrating win. If Doak hadn't had the complete collywobbles, we'd have finished that first half 3-21 and I'd have said there was no way back for Munster psychologically


    I'd say some Munster fans will take that as a moral victory given the team they had out. But Ulster fans will take the 4 points and move on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,735 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Fekitoa needs to buy paddy jackson a pint because if chris farrell was available he wouldn't see a minute on the pitch and it says a lot about what the coaches think of him that they took in that oli mallins lad.


    A waste of a signing and its not even november.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,735 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Vermulen should have been red carded, and will probably get cited yet for his filth, and that ulster backline didnt cause anyone trouble tonight, they are a team more reliant on a maul than munster are.

    And burns showed his true colours and the unbelievable buiishyt about him being a leader was evident when he turned down every conversion so the kid at 9 could miss them. What a pity of a 10 he is and how everybody doesnt see through him is baffling.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He doesnt turn them down. He’s not the kicker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,702 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    And then they won.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,735 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    I know hes not a kicker hes a bluffer, a complete flake of a bluffer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,044 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Thats how it looked to me, the lifters were really struggling with Edogbo.

    He is absolutely massive though, and Ryan was only off the plane so probably had no time to practise the lineout....



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]






  • Who was captain at that point? An insane decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,735 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,044 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    They were looking for the TBP and had plenty of reasons to think they could score from 10 metres out



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203



    what was Murphys reasoning for YC

    That's stonewall red for me, driving up leading with shoulder direct to head



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