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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,021 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭randd1


    The biggest snowflakes going are the anti-woke brigade.

    They're overly sensitive at the best of times, and babyish b1tches more often than not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭randd1


    Comedy, satire and sarcasm should be thought, or at least worked on, in secondary school in some form.

    I genuinely think that these things provide relatable methods of critical thinking, healthy cynicism and helps tackle social awkwardness, whether it's engagement with others or dealing with subjects that are unpleasant to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭kowloonkev




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,031 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    The Americans banning TikTok has nothing to do with Chinese ownership and data. Its to do with TikTok not being confined to the narrow spectrum of approved talking points and national arguments.

    Americans have news stations with predefined positions on the approved culture war issues of the day like abortion, trans issues, immigration, republican or democrat. TikTok goes beyond those few, often irrelevant topics.

    I think the culture wars serve to divide the working people on inconsequential topics, to prevent us from banding together on topics that really matter to us, but governments don't want to deal with such as wealth inequality, education, housing and quality of life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Social housing should be for people saving trying there best to get on the property ladder, Many more young people would get there with just a little bit of a boost till they get there,

    Not people who can't be arsed to do a days work in there lives ,(unless medically they can't)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭randd1


    If they opened up the grant scheme of existing housing and not just new builds, I suspect there'd be a massive amount more housing available to buy.

    But then that would probably see house prices go down, and the artificial inflation of the housing sector go with it. Which of course, hurts those who make their fortunes in property.

    On the one hand, while I despise the very people who refuse to do a days work, but at the same time there's couples working two jobs and spending a fortune on childcare where they don't see their kids for 9/10 hours of the day and barely getting by. I'm sure there's plenty out there wondering why they're putting in all that effort and sacrifice and in the end having nothing to show for it because they can't buy and rent at the same time.

    We made a mistake after the last recession not keeping housing cheap for working families. And we'll probably pay for it with another recession down the line, and make the same mistakes, and the wealthy will get richer and more and more people will be locked out of a chance to have a permanent roof over their called their own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Basiclaly the "working class" who gets done over & i'm not talking about the new "working class" yew know the ones who never worked a day in the lifes,

    I'm talking about people who work hard but simply don't earn big money , They can be forgotten about, As you said if your scrapping by & at the same time not seeing your kids is it any wonder there people just give up and become dole merchants



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,648 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Yep. You can see this in the same country where people vote on culture war nonsense over things that actually affect them.

    In a democracy, even the US, people get the government they deserve 100% of the time.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,820 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Men who have a problem with women commentators, and pundits, covering a men’s game have serious issues with their own inadequacies and can’t handle a woman knowing more about the game than they do.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭randd1


    I don't think it's just that. Of course they can read a game just as well as any man, only a moron would think otherwise.

    But a woman who played sport will never know what it's like to compete at the male level, or what the men go through, the training, the physicality, the background stuff. In the same way, the men wouldn't have to put up with a tenth of the shite women have to put up with, the training they have to do, various other aspects of womens sport.

    The experiences gathered for getting to an All-Ireland is very much different in hurling and camogie. Which is why if you're looking for an opinion on the games, it's probably best to get one from who's had that experience.

    And I'd be very much in favour of men not commenting on womens sports either. I'm sure as much as a man would be capable of analysing a womans game, they haven't been a part of that experience, which is why it's better to hear from a woman who understands not just the analysis, but the sport inside out, and what it means to them. The same with men commenting on the mens game.

    If it was purely down to match analysis, either a woman or man or would do as they'd know it either way (I'd go as far as to see women are actually better at the analysis in general), but more often than not the conversations cover other aspects of the sport, so it's better to hear from people who went through it. And given that mens and womens sports are different experiences, it would be better to hear from someone who's had that experience.

    And not for nothing, it does come across somewhat as tokenism these days. Women's sport is getting more popular and followed more and more, which is obviously a good thing. It doesn't need promotion through tokenism anymore, it needs promotion on it's own merits, and there's more than plenty merit there to promote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,820 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Maybe I should amend that to ‘the men who react angrily to women commentators/pundits’.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,021 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Tell me you don't find this female commentator annoying, no one wants to hear someone roaring like that.

    worst example of a commentator I heave come across.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭StormForce13


    A sweeping and unsubstantiated generalisation that, I suspect, was probably composed by a wannabe female pundit.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    White knights are always the biggest assholes to women, they make my skin crawl.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,021 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    "Reacts angrily" if I say I think mrs browns boys is a load of $hite, is that me acting angrily or just stating my opinion on mrs browns boys?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,959 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    Their masks usually end up slipping, even online.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭corkie


    The Americans banning TikTok has nothing to do with Chinese ownership and data. Its to do with TikTok not being confined to the narrow spectrum of approved talking points and national arguments.

    You would never know it was Election year. Controlling the Narrative. American Propaganda that our politicians seem to parrot as well. EU Digital Services Act could be implementing censorship to control the Narrative as well. Risking our adult liberates of using Social Media.

    Regards.

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    The people using tiktok aren't watching the mainstream news, so with the election coming up so they'll try whatever they can to control the narrative. Interesting to see how much support RFK has gained from social media and podcast appearances that media wouldn't report as more people will watch Joe Rogan than CNN,Fox etc so I suppose the media don't want to admit they don't have as much influence with the under 45s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭corkie


    @PsychoPete Interesting to see how much support RFK has gained from social media

    As in RFK Jr. I assume?

    CNN: Polls show substantial support for candidates like RFK Jr. How much of it is real?

    EDIT: - Hopefully you haven't sent me down the rabbit hole of taking interest in US Politics, have enough with our own and EU Elections. You don't hear much about him on our own media? Just Trump and Biden.

    Quick look at 'X' and replies are toxic on him, his family not supporting him?

    Post edited by corkie on

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,786 ✭✭✭cms88


    Often not the case. The likes of Anna Geary and Ursula Jacob are terrible pundits imo. Is it because they're female? No it's because they're just not good. The fact is while both played Camogie at the top level, Camogie is a different sport to hurling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭89897


    Is the problem the sound of her voice or what shes saying? As a semi interested football watcher I dont hear much different to when its men only commentary, expect its a womans voice and not a mans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,021 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Her voice, it all seems so forced and fake and way too over the top, in my opinion.

    same as Vicki Sparks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    For me the tone of voice for a commentator is the most important thing, I generally don't give a toss what any of them say male or female. Rob Hawthorne for example is probably the best soccer commentator out there simply because he doesn't have any ego or annoying traits and is relatively unobtrusive.Same reason I don't mind Lucy Ward as her yorkshire accent is quite pleasant on the ears.

    Bian Tyers and MacDara McDonnacha are by far my favourite GAA commentators as there voices are easy to listen to and flow with the game even though I can't make out a lot fo what they are saying as my Irish isn't that great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Suckler


    This is the problem; the commentators and their 'white knight' defenders don't want to hear this and don't understand this. You're sexist and "have serious issues with their own inadequacies" and that is the summation of the argument.

    The example you gave for former camogie players commenting on hurling is correct - much different game. Men's football V ladies football is the same; e.g. Cora Staunton, great ladies player but the men's game is different, particularly to games 15-20+ years ago. Ladies football has come on leaps and bounds from that level.

    It's the same for English soccer pundits - Eni Aluko, Jill Scott, Karen Carney - They're terrible pundits, their game is/was different to the men's game and it show's in their commentary.

    Post edited by Suckler on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,959 ✭✭✭✭Rothko


    The "defenders" are often just trying to get a rise out of people with that sort of carry on. I wouldn't pay any attention to what they have to say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭Kingslayer


    AI is a bit of a conjob. People in that business have tended to talk it up to beyond a level where it is actually at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,849 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    I just saw that Eamon Ryan (leader of the Green Party) has 4 children.

    How in the name of god can any self respecting environmentalist have so many children.It;s been proven over and over again that having children is the worst thing you can do for the environment as it creates more consumers who will in turn create more consumers down the line, nothing comes close to being so bad for the environment.So why the hell is he not pulled up on this , I ca understand wanting to have a child or maybe 2, but 4 is taking the piss completely for someone who claims to be an environmentalist.

    It;s people like him who seem to not realise their hypocrisy and who think taxation is the solution to all environmental issues that do huge damage to the credibility of the green movement which is an extremely important.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭89897


    So is your issue women commentators or bad commentators? Or do you just not like the sounds of womens voices?



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