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Neighbours sheep always in my garden??

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    If your dog goes further and starts herding the sheep around the farmer's field. It could turn out to be your problem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    From memory and I might not be 100 percent correct but the control of dogs act allows a farmer or any person responsible for the livestock to shoot a dog if they are of the opinion that the dog or dogs are attacking the sheep or posing an immediate threat and not under effective control.

    It gives you a fairly wide scope to shoot but some forget that if the dogs leave and get back to their owners yard you can't just rock up and shoot them .Have been tempted though.

    Grey area re shooting them a few fields away but never yet met a Guard who advised anything other than shoot them and forget about it .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Ignorance is bliss. I'll leave you to it. If you ever want to google it, you can look up "cattle trespass" which is a a strict liability offence that exists under common law. It is distinct from regular trespass which is not a strict liability offence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭asdfg87


    Look you tried to bully the OP earlier which drew me to this.

    Imagine asking the OP to pay for fertilizer from thieving sheep.

    Cop on...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    Ah ti's only a discussion on the Internet and not real life .

    On a more serious note the stereotypical thick farmer is a pretty common occurance in my opinion and that's from someone who is farming since I done the leaving cert many years ago .The Bull Mcabe has many a spiritual son or grandson still farming .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭asdfg87


    Since i made so many contributions to this thread i feel the need to comment as i be certainly be for the most part with the farmer. I would know at least 50 farmers really well and there is 1 who is a total bully and though he thinks he is the man but people couldn't be bothered challenging him (thick) There are a few others that i call consensus thinkers, fallow the crowd as it were.

    Now the real farmers i know have all kindof disagreements spats like in any life and get on with it, thats called life, they give any advise but dont ask how many or how much, sometimes they will tell but don't ask.

    For the most part i think they are great people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dh1985


    1. Doesnt matter if the sheep came in thru an open gate. What are they doing on the road in the first place.

    2. Not your place to put up a fence to keep out a man's sheep from your domestic dwelling, that's actually in theiving on someone else's land. Whilst you can if you want it might not be cheap and not your duty. The duty is on the landowner to have stock proof fences. Albeit the land there coming in from isn't his but obviously his own fences ar not fit for purpose either.

    3. There's farmers like this in every parish that couldn't give a flying **** about keeping fences shockproof. They give decent farmers bad names.

    I would give him a call, tell him get them out of your garden and not have them back or he won't be hearing from you directly the next time, instead it will be the DVO he hears from



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,869 ✭✭✭White Clover


    That's your opinion Paddy. That doesn't automatically mean it's a fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Big difference between bah and moo. Not a farmer .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Thread not yet 16 hours old & seems like everyone's giving their tuppence worth, so here goes, I've yet to know a sheep man who keeps his flock at home. Their a holy terra


    (Tis a bank holiday after all)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Gant21


    Sure a 6 cylinder tractor front ends is 1.5 times longer than a 4 cylinder. All experts here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,796 ✭✭✭paddysdream


    Presume you have heard the old saw about a sheep farmer going to look at a take for grazing and the farmer letting the land wondering why he was showing such an interest in the adjoining fields ?

    The answer was that there was no point in taking a field unless the ones beside them contained enough grass to keep the sheep content when they broke out .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,578 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Why do some people think a farmer who is happy for his sheep to be on a public road will care about someone's lawn or be quick to fix it.

    The public road being a place where they could cause a road traffic accident. That's the number 1 priority boundary for most farmers due to the risk of accidents if stock get out.

    The OP can be right or the OP can let their kids in the garden this summer without sheep poop. It's up to them what they value more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Or the one where the sheep farmer puts any newly bought sheep into the neighbours field first after they buy em - sure they’ll break into their own ground in no time… 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,608 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    We had an issue before with cattle that kept breaking into ours. The owner of the land had it rented and didn't want to know. There seemed to be two guys that had animals on it but didn't want to know.

    After the 7th time the damage was so bad our robot could not operate. Animal owner number one swore blind that he didn't own any animals and the other guy looked like he wasn't able to look after himself let alone an animal.

    Anyway went through small claims court, they ignored all so we won. They ignored this so there was a judgement against one. Paperwork sent to the sheriff to collect payment but the position of sheriff was vacant. I ended up getting a poster printed to fundraise the cost naming them. I sent both a poster and asked them to ask the local priest to put on the church noticeboard. I also mentioned all information is to be sent to the department of agriculture.

    The result was chaos fencing the land at 1am one night and the bill was promptly paid



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,046 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    All possible remedies have been suggested.

    Thanks everyone for your input.

    Thread closed.

    The aim of argument, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress. Joseph Joubert

    The ultimate purpose of debate is not to produce consensus. It's to promote critical thinking.

    Adam Grant



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