MG 4

embraer170

I would love to see a Bjørn Nyland range review of the MG4. All kinds of mixed reviews online and it is really hard to know what to make of them.

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120020166#Comment_120020166

Any review I have seen has been overwhelmingly positive with only a few comments about the lack of buttons in the cabin and having to go through the infotainment screen for everything. I would definitely like to see Bjorn do a winter range test in the LR version and I bet it is only a matter of weeks before that happens. The banana box tests he does are absolutely useless to me and I don't bother with them but I imagine someone would find them useful (otherwise he wouldn't waste his time on them).

The only true review (of any car, not just the MG4), would be a long term owner's review but that will be a while before we see any of those.

Mad_maxx

For the money they are a great buy even aspects of the product are below more established brands, only reason I gave up on MG is the 4 is too small for my needs and I waited eleven months for the ZS until being told none was available and to either buy the 4 or the facelift 5

this coincided with the Tesla model Y becoming available for just shy of 53 k so I opted for it , I still really like MG and was really looking forward to the ZS

LasersGoPewPew

There seems to be a common issue of leaking oil and bulging undertray. Quite a few people are rejecting or asking for full refunds.

https://www.mgevs.com/threads/mg4-reduction-gearbox-oil-leak.7641/

Patser

Just got call from Frank Keane that car on the way, for mid January, so good news

Patser

Oh, also to add I took opportunity to ask what cables came with car - 3 pin or type 2 and got a WhatsApp response of pretty certain it was both

olympicweights

Yes both cables are supplied

embraer170

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120020985#Comment_120020985

The reviews from the media cars are all absolutely excellent. The owners reviews seem to be a little bit more mixed. I am part of quite a few MG4 Facebook and it is really difficult to get any clarity on real range/consumptions (where I think Bjorn's reviews are really brilliant).

JayeL

That's great Patser, congratulations! When did you order and what was the original date you were given?

I ordered in mid-November and was told April.

Patser

Ordered end of October and was told honestly they had no idea of delivery time - which at least was honest

baziled13

Did you get a ship name for January delivery

baziled13

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120022152#Comment_120022152

Did you get a ship name for January delivery

Patser

Nope, message mentioned waiting on dispatch list from NVD - so possibly already here. I'd suspect that it's coming through UK with NVD to collect from there

celtic_oz

For those worried about the longevity of MG batteries, see here 16:11 mins in :

https://youtu.be/BOzPPmt88K8?t=971

unkel

Not just MG batteries, any battery using LiFePO4 (like almost all Chinese made EVs really and others now too like Teslas)

tl;dr What Elliot is saying is that he has been in MG5 taxis that are only a couple years old with 350k km on them drivin 24/7 and only ever fast charged, and they are fine

Jonathan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120022452#Comment_120022452

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120022583#Comment_120022583

Interesting. I was told just a type 2.

Will be interesting to see if the Exclusive trim also has 11kW charging like the UK Trophy models.

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120024137#Comment_120024137

I was told both cables on my test drive.

You'll need a 32 amp, 3 phase type 2 to test out 11kW. The car will only come with a single phase cable for the 7kW charging however.

Jonathan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120024402#Comment_120024402

Or just look at the type 2 socket on the car. Models with 11kW charging have the L2/L3 pins populated. These pins are missing on 7kW chargers.

If anyone is out looking at their car before January please report back.

unkel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120024402#Comment_120024402

Or just go to one of the many ESB triple head chargers and plug in the tethered AC cable into your car. If it charges at 11kW or more, you know your car has 3ph capability 😁

You could do that on your test drive even if the sales man doesn't really know about any of this (is what I'd expect)

John arse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120020166#Comment_120020166

Has he left ABBA then???😉

McGiver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120007436#Comment_120007436

I've also noticed the tiny buffers. Doesn't sound right. Expecting a large degradation with the NMC (64 kWh) especially given it fast charges at 2.2C = 140 kW (see Youtube Videos on that).

The lack of buffer should be a less of a concern with the LFP (51 kWh) but still it's strange, only fraction of a % of buffer. Li-ion degrades at high/low SOC regardless of the chemistry... LFP isn't invincible. Also, depends on the BMS, cooling, heating etc.

Could it be a print error or false advertising? Maybe the net capacity is lower ❓

McGiver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120007427#Comment_120007427

The range is going to be less, I test drove it twice, in 6 C weather, once dry once wet and the efficency, on the dashboard at least, was pretty poor. I couldn't get it below 20 kWh/100 km in a city driving at a 14 km test drive (30, 50, 100 kph mix). I'd like to see motorway winter test, even mild winter, I expect 25 kW+ or around that mark.

This is not an efficient car and their city efficiency of 12 kWh/100 km in the brochure is nonsense. Maybe at 20 C, AC off and almost hypermiling.

RM Ernest

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120026029#Comment_120026029

Are they that tiny though compared to say the id3 / born of 58kwh usable vs. 62kwh gross or 77kwh / 82kwh longer range?

The long range mg 4 is 64kwh gross / 61 usable.

Not sure what the ioniq 5 / ev6 or e-niro etc. are buffer wise.

I don't know enough about batteries TBH but they don't seem that far from other manufacturers.

RM Ernest

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120026029#Comment_120026029

https://youtu.be/c7-vNqs80so

Good review of the MG5 here with battery state of health at 97% after 51000 miles and frequent fast charging. Not the same car / battery pack as the MG4 but the MG5 long range is 61kwh gross/ 57Kwh usable as far as I know. Peak charging of only 90 kw i think though.

Anyway I'll buy a 2nd hand MG4 in 3 years when my 30kwh leaf is dead and the MG4 is well tested :-)

discostu1

For what it’s worth I was also told by the sales guy that a granny and Type 2 charging cable is supplied

horse7

One would hope the software will be up to date and not require updating when they arrive here, including oil leak and LKA problems.

DaveyDave

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120026045#Comment_120026045

A YouTube channel I watched showed it ever so slightly worse on efficiency than the Cupra Born on a convoy test drive. So, 14-16kWh/100km in the Summer, 18-22kWh/100km in Winter is likely from what I've seen in the Born. Similar shape car, the MG4 isn't the most aero front end so I wouldn't be expecting Model 3 or Kona efficiency. A small trade off for the nicer styling in my opinion!

KildareMan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119995494#Comment_119995494

That's not the case if you have a signed SIMI contract. Price is stated.

McGiver

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120026190#Comment_120026190

SR - 50.8 / 51.0 = 0.4% buffer

LR - 61.7 / 64.0 = 3.6% buffer

Versus 6 to 10% buffers with other cars. The i3 I have now has a 10% buffer. The Korean car buffers are not known but probably similar and it is believed they release it gradually as the battery degrades resulting in no actual degradation of the range.

Note: The Leafs had been tested and the buffer estimated as 10-11% (24 kWh was 21.3 usable, 40 kWh was 36 usable etc.). So the big buffer doesn't guarantee anything, talking about the Leafs😀

elgicko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120023280#Comment_120023280

I orderd mid-October in Frank Keane, I have heard nothing....