F1 2022 , Round 10 , British GP , Silverstone

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285592#Comment_119285592

But as mentioned above, it's not. The Ferrari and the Red Bull's seems fairly well matched, and even Verstappen's record over the past 2-3 seasons is an absolutely crazy level of consistent. When he's finished in an undamaged car his worst finishing position has been 3rd - which only happened once since 2020. You have to go back to Turkey in 2020 (a race in which he spun and required an extra pit stop) to find the last time he finished off podium in an undamaged car.

Very much hoping Leclerc can win the title this year, but I personally don't think there's any driver aside from Hamilton that can rival Verstappen's consistency. Scary to think he's only 24 as well.. If gets the same longevity that Hamilton got in a top car he can definitely add a considerable number of WDC's to his tally.

Burkie1203

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285590#Comment_119285590

You mean Lewis acknowledging he was at fault last year because this time around he actually made the apex

standardg60

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285565#Comment_119285565

Maybe i'm missing something but why didn't they pit Lec on the second safety lap? May have dropped to third but should still have been way ahead of Perez?

Burkie1203

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285838#Comment_119285838

Ferrari gonna Ferrari

ctrl-alt-delete

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285838#Comment_119285838

Karun Chandhok asked Binotto directly, Binotto reckoned they didn't have time and they chose to pit Sainz as LeClerc had track position.

Karun said at first it was 9 seconds, then said 4.6 and that Sainz could have backed them up but Binotto skirted around it sticking to the merits in what they had done.

recyclebin

Ferrari hedged there bets. If they pitted both drivers then they may not have won the race.

Ferrari have messed up many races in the past but I don't think you could blame them for what they did this time.

standardg60

Question.

What happens between the time the safety car is deployed and the time it picks up the leader? VSC deltas? In which case Lec should have been able to pit next time around and still emerge as leader. Assume the SC then travels at less than deltas which allows the field to back up? Lapped cars when unlapping themselves must be still on VSC deltas?

Unbelievable drive from Max that. P7 in a car slower than Latifi. Those points could be crucial later on.

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285917#Comment_119285917

Those points won't be crucial at all I think come the end of the season. Max will win the championship and Red Bull too - both a fair bit ahead of the challengers. The longer it is competitive the better but he will surely pull away.

Joeface

I for one was entertained by that. I know the middle part of the race was dull visually but the gaps closing on times and Hamilton showing he could be in the mix added to it for me. The last 10 laps the top 5,6 drivers gave us a show , the battle between with Leclerc , Perez and Hamilton was excellent . Thought Alonso and Lando might get involved as well but just not enough in both those cars for pace.

Delighted for Sainz , hope he can be just as involved in Austria just to get some momentum going for him.

Itssoeasy

just rewatched the highlights on the sky f1 YouTube channel and it’s amazing to say it but Albon will be feeling his shunts more than Zhou which as I said it amazing given where Zhou's car ended up. Albon hit the wall on the start/finish straight and then got two hefty enough hits from two cars.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285838#Comment_119285838

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285916#Comment_119285916

Leclerc had already caught the safety car by then so would have dropped to third at least, can't remember if Norris had closed up yet or not though.

mr_edge_to_you

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285912#Comment_119285912

All in all, probably a very good team result with Max down the pecking order.

ricimaki

Sky mentioned there were protestors at the circuit as well. I didn't realize they were literally sitting across the track.

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286478#Comment_119286478

The gobshítes probably didn't realise the race was stopped for a completely unrelated reason.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285989#Comment_119285989

Thought the end of the race was great entertainment. Just goes to show what can happen when you take the dangerous loose cannon out of the mix and let the professionals race, they can go for it knowing that they are less likely to get sideswiped by the golden boy.

Can anybody clarify exactly what Sainz was refusing to do on the restart? Something about holding Hamilton back 10 lengths or something, I couldn't quite make out the recording?

This is it

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286546#Comment_119286546

Ferrari wanted him to pull back 10 car lengths from LeClerc to give LeClerc a chance to pull away on the restart. I'm a LeClerc fan but delighted Sainz told them no. Made no sense, he knew Hamilton was ready to pounce.

Obviously words had between LeClerc and Binotto. Can't understand why he wasn't pit. He was a sitting duck for the rest and even p4 was pretty good considering. The battle with him and Hamilton, and LeClerc, Hamilton and Perez was brilliant!

namloc1980

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286546#Comment_119286546

Max living rent free in your head it seems.

LIGHTNING

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286546#Comment_119286546

What are you crapping on about 🙄

guyfo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286546#Comment_119286546

But Lewis was there in the fight at the end🤔 thankfully he didn't miss the apex and cause an aeroplane crash this time around!

McFly85

Lots of nonsense about Max today! I swear some people are as bad with him as others are about Hamilton.

The battle at the end between him and Mick I thought was excellent. Max still had the pace on the straights but in the corners he worked brilliantly to close any gap.

Sainz pulled a similar move on Max on the first restart completely shutting the door on him when max had more pace off the line, don’t see anyone giving out about that though.

Andrew76

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119285895#Comment_119285895

That interview was a bit confusing to me. I thought the 9 seconds was from when the SC was raised to when LeClerc went past the pits and the 4.6 was the gap between LeClerc and Sainz. Double stack both cars as Perez had to pit to change to a different set of tyres so at worst, if Hamilton had of stayed out, they would be behind him on better tyres. Lando also pitted and came out behind Alonso so neither of them were a factor I think. Easy to say from the comfort of home of course.

Widdensushi

Strange that le clerc seemed to have more pace than Sainz with a damaged front wing, you would think that the car would have been off balance and hard on tyres, I know when Sainz pitted he didn't seem to get any faster but his tyres were going off by then.

lolie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286478#Comment_119286478

F**king idiots. Cars still on track at the time but luckily on a slow inlap because of the red flag, dread to think what could've happened with cars at full speed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Me101Am/status/1543607539983687683

2011

What an entertaining race.

quokula

Pretty solid race all in all.

The new regulations are working well at real race tracks, I think the problem is F1's move away to ever more street circuits that seem to predominantly rely on a single massive straight with a stop at the end for their overtaking. The new cars don't create as much slipstream so aren't as effective at the likes of Baku, Miami or even Canada. But go to a proper circuit like Silverstone, or the likes of Bahrain earlier in the season, and the racing is better than it's been for years with reduced dirty air. The organisers need to take note when looking at introducing new tracks to the calendar.

Glad to see Sainz win as he's such a likeable driver, but to be honest it wasn't exactly the most glorious performance as his teammate was faster all race with a damaged car. The commentators on Channel 4 (as an aside, what a treat to have a broadcast team who actually know what they're talking about for once, rather than being stuck with Sky) said it was possible that losing the end plate may have actually helped with the balance as the car was a bit oversteery which we saw with Carlos' off, but that seems a stretch.

Leclerc was of course robbed by absolutely dismal Ferrari strategy once again. But only after Max was robbed after making a blistering start and looking like he was heading to a dominant victory. Extremely poor form from the race directors - drivers had been on the radio saying there was debris on the track but they never bothered to clear it, a decision that ultimately that took the race leader out of contention. Incredible drive from Max thereafter. He was missing half his floor and the car was handling so badly he thought he had a puncture, yet he still put up in a superb drive holding his own against much faster cars and only lost 6 points to his main title rival. That's the sort of performance that separates the best of the best from the rest.

With Verstappen and Leclerc out of the way for different reasons, the race was pretty much handed on a plate to Sainz and Hamilton, though Lewis ultimately lacked the race craft to keep the charging Perez at bay. A deserved driver of the day for Sergio, from last place after lap 1 through no fault of his own to second at the end is an impressive drive. Some really great overtakes on the way there too. Alonso worth a mention too for getting the Alpine ahead of some faster cars. Further down the points it was great to see Mick Schumacher finally get on the score board, with some great racing with Verstappen on the way there too. And Vettel once again driving like the champion he is and dragging one of the slowest cars on the grid up into the points.

Star of the weekend was of course the Halo. It arguably saved two lives between F1 and F2. It was a refreshing change too when it was announced that Zhou was ok that the British fans cheered a driver not being hurt, which is progress.

This is it

LeClerc around Copse to retake the position from Hamilton was unreal, I was having flashbacks of Max. Balls of steel.

Hijpo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286833#Comment_119286833

Steward turns up with a big sweeping brush lol

Killinator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286857#Comment_119286857

Does carrying those chips on your shoulders not get a bit much?

Can you not make a post on a race without throwing a dig at Hamilton in some way?

Also apart from ludicrously claiming, apparently seriously, that Hamilton attempted to murder Verstappen you also claimed that overtaking at Copse is not possible which was funny because both Hamilton and Leclerc proved last year and today that it is in fact possible. You forgot to mention that bit.

You could have acknowledged that the top 3 all had great drives but heaven forbid that would involve acknowledging what most people accept was the truth of the race, which is that Hamilton also had a great race. Your claim of him not having the race craft could be argued that he just doesn't have as fast a car as Checo, and Max proved today that no matter how good you are if you don't have one of the fastest cars you end up battling Haas and Alpine

Max wasn't 'robbed' he drive over some debris, it happens, in fact it was his choice to hit it head on as he hoped it would disintigrate or get tossed aside, he was just unlucky that it damaged his underside (not quite missing half his floor though). It was a good recovery drive though and he may look at those points later on as invaluable.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119286677#Comment_119286677

There is a reason people were concerned about him attempting to get past Verstappen, the possibility of his first points finish disappearing due to Max's "aggression" was a very credible prospect. Deny it all you want, at the time everybody knew what could happen and were just happy to see him remain behind and get his points.

No such concerns when Hamilton, Perez and LeClerc were swapping places with some great maneuvers, they knew they were safe to drive hard there.