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Public Pay Talks



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,433 ✭✭✭jaffa20

    RTE were saying it should be agreed within 1-2 weeks, whether that is true or not.

  • Registered Users Posts: 138 ✭✭Risoc

    I'd say it'll be done in time to amend the 1% in October to something like 3.5% with something similar for 2023 in a 1.5 year deal.

  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Shuffl_in

    Talks will be tough. God knows what the unions will be happy to accept. Forsa will probably bend over easily enough but not sure on some of the others.

    New South Wales public servants are currently on strike after receiving an offer of a 3% pay rise (and 0.5% 'likely' next year). They want at least 5.2% to match inflation.

    My best guess would be 3% this year and 2% next.

  • Registered Users Posts: 279 ✭✭HartsHat

    Have Fórsa not done better in recent talks?

    The lower grades have got higher percentage increase than the higher grades, I thought?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 279 ✭✭HartsHat


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  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Shuffl_in

    The head of Britain’s largest union has warned of potential strikes this year if the government does not heed its call for inflation-linked wage increases for staff in the NHS and local government.

  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭Shuffl_in

    ICTU wants to see 'very significant' pay increases for all workers

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,637 ✭✭✭SouthWesterly

    What super pension is this I'm supposed to be getting?

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭combat14

    many of the increments attract no pay rises for 3-4 years at a time

    as on poster mentionned when hit top of scale no pay rise for 10 years ...

  • this is almost all a botch of a post tbh and if you wanted to actually know any of what you were botching its all been corrected a hundred times before - so you clearly dont want to know any better but you got your word in anyways so congrats- i think the talks will probably carry on without you but we'll keep you informed how it goes 👍

  • Registered Users Posts: 791 ✭✭✭Quitelife

    6.5% over 2 years is 3.25% per year which is less than Public Sector Increments not to mind the Extra percentages Public Sector Unions are looking for .

  • Registered Users Posts: 791 ✭✭✭Quitelife

    Its a GUARANTEED defined benefit pension on your salary for a minimal 5% contribution as opposed to private sector who are totally dependent on their own contribution and their employers which will never match a Guaranteed Defined benefit Public Service pension.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭08122019

    It worked, all of you quoted them.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭Gusser09

    Hmmmm. Public servant here lads.

    I don't think that solving a cost of living crisis caused by inflation should be solved by throwing public money at the problem. That includes any PS pay rise. It'll be swallowed up quick enough. I think anything that happens needs to be balanced. I'd prefer conditions were reverted (6:57 rather than 7:24 working day) flexi leave reinstated. And also a decent WFH policy. I don't think private or public sector workers should be made go into an office if they can do their job from home.

    I'd prefer all of the above than a pay rise. I think the unions have a finite opportunity here to really shape the future of public service in Ireland. The payrise is way to easy to go after.

  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Alonzo Mosley

    You will be working 7:00 per day from July 1st.....

  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭mtb_sends

    @Lucas Lemon Babyhood Is the reinstating of pre HRA hours for civil service only or does it extend to the wider public sector. Im starting a public sector role imminently and am wondering if the working hours stated in my contract will basically be changing after the first month.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,732 ✭✭✭Augme

    As @Lucas Lemon Babyhood says, time for cash money and nothing less. Wfh sounds good and it is, there's also the fact that wfh will require a significant additional cost for people to pay. Wfh places many benefits on wider society and the climate too, so it's not a one sided benefit.

    Even if the said more annual leave I wouldn't take it, free time with no money to spend ain't exactly ideal tbh.

    In saying that, I do understand the difficult situation of dealing with high inflation and gving out pay raises as its a vicious circle. But the government have simply shown zero interest in being creat8ve and trying to address that problem w8th sensible solutions so quite frankly I'm going to demand the cash at this stage.

    Also, private sector works are going to lie and spin things to guilt and making public servants look greedy. It is essential they are ignored aswell. This isn't a popularity contest we are entering.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭Gusser09

    Well inflation will reduce and the cost of living will come back down.

    We might be waiting a long lone time for us to be in a position to shape wfh policies etc.

    If we were to get 3 percent straight up that would be around 800 or 900 quid a year for a CO on the top of the scale?? That's after tax.

    Take the working conditions folks. It'll work out better for your pocket over paying commuting costs including diesel etc.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 483 ✭✭Fred Astaire

    It isn't an either or. The reduced working hours are already happening.

    It won't just be 3% either. It'll be something like 3% in October and another 2.5% at some point next year, before another re-evaluation. There is also a good chance of a new 30% tax band so you'll have to re-evaluate your calculations.

    Working from home will never be something worth sacrificing pay to strive for because there are certain public sector jobs that physcially cannot be done from home. You land in one of those departments and what have you then? Nothing.

    When will inflation reduce? When will the cost of living come back down? When another recession comes, and when that happens, they will be back trying to cut those wages like they did before.