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Scrambler problem - 3 Year Old run over

  • 19-04-2022 12:48pm
    Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭ Ham_Sandwich

    Yet another accident involving scramblers surely it's past due time for the goverment to build tracks in these areas for the kids to ride there bikes around on whenever theres talk about these areas the usual crowd do be saying "theres loads to do in these areas no excuses" but thats only true if you like kicking a football around all day alot more kids are getting into riding bikes there should be tracks built for them so accidents dont happen again



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭ brokenangel

    Exactly, the people that want to buy and use a dirt bike responsible will do so anyway and will do so via a club/group

    Time to ban them, end of story. Plus the selling of quad's in cities.

    I shared on another thread, but a parent had a child on a quad which was seriously injured because a dirt bike crashed into it. Like what sort of a f**ked up scenario is that? first off why has a parent got a young child on a quad bike in the first place?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 284 ✭✭ Ham_Sandwich

    they cant be banned because farmers and other people need them and theres alot of young people who use them responsibly its only a small minority making it bad for the rest and tarring everyone who rides bikes with the one brush theres only a ew tracks in dublin and theyre very expensive to use theres loads of waste ground in these areas the council could build tracks in them and the goverment could insure them

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭ Floppybits

    Nobody has a problem with the people using the bikes for sport or for work such as farming as you say, that's the bikes being used for what they were designed for.

    The kids in these estates, most are under age as well, that ride these bikes have no interest in using the bikes on a track, all they are interested in is being able to tear up and down the park and just be a nuisance. No amount of official tracks or whatever is going to change that. Any kids that interested in bikes for sport will not be tearing up and down parks and being a nuisance.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭ brokenangel

    No farmers use dirt bikes. Yes a quad but they all source via tractor dealers etc and easy to regulate that

    Banning for sale to general public is easy, if someone wants to use correctly they should have option to buy via a registered club with facilities to use.

    Similar is done with guns so it's not like it unheard of

    Nobody living in a built up area needs a dirt bike or a quad to drive around with unless they are on a designated track

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭ batman_oh

    Illegal if you aren't a scrote yes. The Garda station in Ballymun is massive and they literally sit there watching them flying around the place and do nothing. If I took my motorbike that I pay insurance for, tax, am fully licenced for and an actually legally allowed to use on the road and wheelied it up footpaths at 40mph I'd be arrested. I wonder how they can't stop them - so puzzling!

  • Just restrict usage by age. No different from any other form of motorised transport. Adults can bear the brunt for their negligence or stupidity.

    And when you say build tracks and the government insure them, that just places the taxpayer paying out to loads of accident compensations. There's no need for any of this. Give the teenager a bicycle. Much better for them and the environment.

  • Registered Users Posts: 69,829 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal

    Solution: legalized extortion. That’s a great route for policing to take…

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭ whomitconcerns

    It's a great idea and the only one that will work. Confiscate and then 48 hours later destroy or donate to some outside the city facility that can accommodate safe usage

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭ brokenangel

    They are already restricted, still doesn't stop daddy going in and buying for his 12 year old and sending him out on it......

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭ Cordell

    TBH I can see why they choose to do nothing: if they were to pursuit and try to stop these scrotes sooner or later one of them will get hurt and then the pitchforks will come out.

  • the sins of the son be visited on the father. The father should then be held responsible for what the son does, and treated exactly as if he had done them himself.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,923 ✭✭✭ conorhal

    Legalized extortion? LOL Is jailing somebody for murder legalised kidnapping in that case? What a stupid comment.

    If it's legaized extortion then it is then it's extortion that's easily avoided by running your off road dirt bike, you know, OFF ROAD.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,720 ✭✭✭✭ Sleepy

  • Registered Users Posts: 69,829 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal

    Perhaps reread the comment I quoted. Off road? On your lawn, tearing donuts in the park? What a stupid comment.

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,923 ✭✭✭ conorhal

    I did read the comment, it ammounts to 'take the bike off offenders and fine the crap out of them', so spare me your semantic nonsense about 'on a lawn, in a park', or riding it vertically up the spire in O'Connell St for that matter, those are all places these machines don't belong. What's your objection to seizing the bikes for their inappropriate use exactly? Are you advocating for people to scramble in the front garden and public parks? We already know how badly that worked out:

    Since I presume you're not advocating for that, what exactly is your problem with the taking dirt bikes off dirtbags running them in any of those places?

  • Registered Users Posts: 69,829 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal

    My original comment was self explanatory. I’m not a lawyer but reasonably confident the law does not support ‘exploitative’ fines, in Ireland and in most jurisdictions.

  • Registered Users Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭ brokenangel


    it is too easy for parents to just let kids off and have no repercussions. It is time the parents had to pay up

  • Registered Users Posts: 29,072 ✭✭✭✭ Hotblack Desiato

    Any motor vehicle used in a public place without tax and insurance can be seized and won't be released until a fine is paid. WTF are you on about, seriously?

    The likes of Alcohol Action Ireland won't be happy until we all have ration cards. Maybe not even then.

  • Registered Users Posts: 69,829 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal

    The associated fine is not “exploitative” that’s clearly what I’m on about.

  • Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭ JayPS 2288

    Is there anything to be said for making children’s allowance a tax credit and reducing lone parent’s allowance and dole for each offence committed by the parents or child. 5% for the first offence, a further 10% for the second, 20% for the third, 40% for the fourth, and so on.

    Hitlerish, but what must be done be done.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 69,829 ✭✭✭✭ Overheal

    If you are endorsing your own idea as “hitlerish, but” … lol