Gas price to rise by 39% and Electric by 27% in April.

Spanish Eyes

Savage rises. Summertime will help a bit but I wonder if prices will stay high or get back to reality by next Winter? I doubt it somehow. Going to be very hard on those just about paying the current bills.

Will we get more help from Government? It all looks very depressing between energy rises and fuel costs etc. I'm just going to try and pay a bit more over the Summer but I am fortunate that I can. Not everyone is in that position.

Take care out there, this might be only the beginning.

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2022/0315/1286579-bord-gais-energy-prices-to-rise-from-next-month/

Gael23

People won’t be able to pay it so the government have to do more. Looking about €40 per month increase for the average combined electricity plus gas customer

you2008

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058237479/gas-price-to-rise-by-39-and-electric-by-27-in-april

Well, EU leaders dont want oil - China and India will take it, well Done EU.

batman_oh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118788509#Comment_118788509

But sure we pollute more than China and India apparently so we deserve it

Thelonious Monk

Probably just the beginning. Maybe we have gone past peak globalisation and consumerism and the chickens are coming home to roost as resources become less available and countries like China and Russia start hogging what's out there. Maybe we all need to live differently, the current system was always going to go this way.

JimmyVik

No reasoning for a carbon tax now. Axe it immediatley. Energy prices are far higher than any carbon tax would have made them, which was the aim. So do the people a favor and bin them.

Its like crucifixion at this point.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118788985#Comment_118788985

I don't it makes much of a difference anyway it's so small

JimmyVik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789001#Comment_118789001

All the more reason to bin it.

road_high

Dunno about anyone else but the Gas central-heating is going a LOT less lately. Less than an hour in the morning, that's it. Not ideal but better than completely savage bills for me.

road_high

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789001#Comment_118789001

Don't have the figures to hand but it's far from insignificant from memory and has VAT lumped on top for good measure. An outrageous tax that further pummels the worst off in society. Just like USC does for the middle income.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789064#Comment_118789064

Ditto. Will make everything more expensive though in time. Use it as little as possible.

road_high

I feel this is going to have massive effects on the discretionary consumption side of the economy. People aren’t going to have the extra money for things like nights out, meals, holidays, weekends away etc

Can see unemployment pushing up very easily.

Jonnyc135

They will have to building motorways to the bog this year. The turf man has being the poor relation for long enough.

NIMAN

This war is going to have a dramatic impact on all Western economies for many months to come, right into next winter. So we may get prepped for plenty more pain before it's all over.

There is another recession coming too, caused by all this. We are all heading for war time, whether we are being bombed or not.

People cannot cut out eating, heating their homes, running the car, so they will cut out the holiday, the treats, the takeaways, unnecessary clothes , the beer etc.

Billcarson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789336#Comment_118789336

People will just be living to live but not really living at all. Basically a form of slavery. Cut everything out and whats left?

Shauna677

Absolutely savage increases. Does it mean we still have to pay these increases if we are in a contract with them?

POBox19

Keep an eye on the Standing Charge and PSO Levy. Whatever about the fuel cost element it would be very deceitful indeed to put those charges up too.

crisco10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789404#Comment_118789404

Yes, Most contracts you are committed to a fixed discount off the standard rate. So if they change the standard rate, your rate will change too.

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789064#Comment_118789064

Have cut 40 minutes off either end of the day so the equivalent of a day's use less per week. Once the evenings are anyway mild it will be off till September-October.

Shauna677

Increases coming in mid April, thank goodness worst of winter will be over, I thought I was doing good up to now with Bord gais but it's all gone insane.

washman3

To all those who cheered on lockdowns over the last 2 years and those who allowed themselves to be led down the Primrose path by Greta and her lunatic fringe along with those who vote for the likes of Eamon Ryan, here is your bill folks, suck it up and start paying.!! You were well warned by people who knew better but laughed, scoffed and cancelled them and decided to be the best pupils in the class and go along with the mob. This was always going to happen, the Ukraine crisis just accelerated it, which is actually a Godsend for the Government. Gas today, Food coming shortly. Just wait and see.

Dakota Dan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118788670#Comment_118788670

Or maybe it’s the globalists wanting to end capitalism like they have been hinting at over the last 2 decades, while they continue their lavish lifestyles of course.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789495#Comment_118789495

Our current form of consuming more and more capitalism has to end eventually. Maybe energy and food crises will force us to change things up a bit.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789423#Comment_118789423

They make up over half of my bill usually so I'll be keeping an eye on them.

Anyone got any way of seeing what kind of massive losses the energy companies are trying to recoup?

Dakota Dan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789506#Comment_118789506

We’ve been told that for over 40 years.

Spanish Eyes

I wonder if Gov can do anything to subsidise any of this. Take ESB, for example a semi state that pays a significant surplus (profit) to the Gov. Maybe use the surplus to help people out or something.

Sorry I may not be aware of reasons why this can't be done. I understand that Bord Gais is independent and no State involvement.... as far as I know.

washman3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789498#Comment_118789498

And many,many others like them, and if you cannot see the link then i'm afraid you have already swallowed the entire jar of pills.

Keep voting for Eamon Ryan and you'll be grand.😉

callaway92

Any chance of Fuel Allowance potentially being made year-round instead of the Autumn/Winter period?

washman3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789520#Comment_118789520

Exactly, and amazingly we still get clowns to believe it.!!

jaffa20

Wish could switch to a supplier that offers a fixed rate for 12 months. I can't understand how prices can be increased continiously but then they can charge you fees if you want to break the contract because of the increases.

Ubbquittious

Oil going donw a bit

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2022/0315/1286446-world-oil-prices/

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789554#Comment_118789554

You're not really making any sense

Dyr

Thanks god for all those wind farms and unicorn ranches that the Greens have built. Imagine if we were still using peat and such horrors

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789585#Comment_118789585

So it was announced the last two power plants solely burning peat for power were to be closed in 2019. What has that got to do with the Greens? And were all of the wind turbines erected since 2020 when the Greens got in power?

You all need to realise that the Greens aren't the cause of all the ills in your life, you're f*cking obsessed the lot of you.

washman3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789577#Comment_118789577

Unfortunately the people who made sense over the last few years were laughed at by people like you. Do a bit of proper research and join the dots. What you will find will amaze you.😉

rob316

Carbon taxes need to be dumped and VAT reduced or the a limit on how much VAT can be charged on energy. These "handouts" the government are giving on energy is a cod, every single increase the exchequer is taking in more in VAT.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789605#Comment_118789605

You're just coming out with nonsense, zero facts, that's not really how you debate things.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789600#Comment_118789600

They're the cause of our **** energy policies, its funny how the lads who cheerlead them suddenly deny any involvement when joe taxpayer gets rode once again by Eamon and his merry gang of gobshites

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789617#Comment_118789617

what energy policies exactly? how are they at fault for closing the peat plants when they weren't in power at the time? why didn't the other parties stop this, the ones who were actually in power? how is the taxpayer currently getting rode, the hikes are nothing to do with taxes that were announced today?

Spanish Eyes

Why is ESB allowed to make massive profits? Surely as a company that is 95% owned by us that must change, and pass a benefit back to the taxpayer.

cap.in.hand.

It's more than coincidental that bord gais are upping the electricity price by that huge figure in April and the €200 govt subsidy is kicking in at the same time....

washman3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789505#Comment_118789505

Get them to start eating potatoes too for breakfast, dinner and supper. Go to mass in a pony and cart and wear their overcoats and boots in front of a half lit open fire while saying the Rosary. They'll really love that.!!

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789634#Comment_118789634

The ESB is a number of entities. Electric Ireland is the retail, ESB Networks manages the supply, sets prices and looks after the upkeep of the infrastructure, which is expensive.

Jinglejangle69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789624#Comment_118789624

Well the Green Party are at the front of banning Ireland digging for its own LNG.

Hence we have to import it and are at the mercy of God knows who.

They tell us renewables is the way forward yet companies supplying electricity through renewable wind farms here have put their prices up the same as every other company today.

So what’s the carbon tax actually achieving?

elperello

Good man Vlad you have them where you want them.

45 posts and no mention of the P word.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789663#Comment_118789663

Carbon tax is a fixed amount, calculated per ton of CO2 generated, which does not change as the price of oil fluctuates. The evidence does not support the claim that the surge in prices at the pumps is being driven by carbon tax increases. Even without them we'd still be f*cked right now. Apparently some of it is being used to retrofit homes etc.

I don't see any reason why carbon taxes can't be removed given the rest of the Dail could vote in favour of this.

Why aren't the other parties blocking things like the stopping of LNG discovery? How come the Greens have so much power over everyone's lives if they're a tiny party who have been in a tiny bit of power for 5 minutes? Why does the electorate and the rest of the Government permit them to be dictators?

Purchase a good woolie jumper and eat plenty of avacado .

You's will all be grand !!

Gone for a snooze , Regards , Eamon .

Jinglejangle69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789686#Comment_118789686

Retrofit the homes of the wealthy leafy suburbs of the greens.

Meanwhile the people paying the carbon tax that funds these retrofits cant even afford to heat their own homes.

God bless capitalism.

Is it that time again where socialism comes to the rescue?

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789695#Comment_118789695

again, if they are the cause of people being broke these days, why are you and the electorate and the parties with actual power allowing the Greens to dictate everything? why aren't the other parties and politicians stopping this?

Mr. teddywinkles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118789690#Comment_118789690

Dont forget to water your lettuce