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You've been looking in the wrong direction, the dangers are coming from the right.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,256 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    So you have nonidea and are hiding, so we're back to.the point of right wing exaggeration of something in order to present it as a threat because if you debate honestly your argument is Baseless

    That or you think.homosexuality is a fetish (although it would be kink not a fetish) and don't know the difference between fetish and orientation.

    Denying education would make you far right though, to be fair.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    The particular fetishes have been highlighted elsewhere, I’m not going to risk a warning



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,256 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    No they haven't and you'll only be warned if it's a lie.

    But if you're that bothered, send ne a PM with the list and I'll take the responsibility.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien




  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I disagree, it’s people who claim to know something about a book they have never read.

    It’s standard far-right behaviour. Misinformation and scaremongering while taking aim at minority groups in the process. If you engage in such behaviour having not read the book in question then that label will be thrown at you.

    You could inform yourself and actually read the book before calling it all sorts of names but we all know you won’t.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,256 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    On Wiki there’s a listing of the chapters. Just sounds like your typical homophobic furore going on, complete with hyperbole about “Not everyone is cool with explicit sexual instruction being made available for children” when A: the author said it’s not intended for children and B: the poster that claimed this can’t stand by their point as they can’t say WHO EXACTLY is cool with explicit sexual instruction being made available for children.

    For those interested (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Book_is_Gay)

    Each of the book's thirteen chapters concerns a different aspect of queer life. The book incorporates discussion of sex education, queer stereotypes, queer history, and many other topics. The introduction is by David Levithan.[6] The chapters are as follows:

    Chapter 1: Welcome to the Members Club

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    This chapter opens with the statement of "There's a long-running joke that, on 'coming out' a young lesbian, gay guy, bisexual, or trans person should receive a membership card and instruction manual. This is that instruction manual." This serves as a general introduction to why this book may be needed. It encompasses the inclusion of different identities, as well as discusses statistics about how many people queer people live in the United States, comparing that number to other well-known statistics.

    Chapter 2: The Name Game

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    This chapter outlines basic queer identities, and gives definitions for each one. Some of the identities also come with testimonials from people who identify with those labels.

    Chapter 3: You Can't Mistake Our Biology

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    This chapter opens with discussion about the scientific studies performed and general scientific reasoning for the existence of gay people. 

    Chapter 4: Stereotypes are Poo

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    This chapter deals with a few of the stereotypes associated with the queer community. It lists a few common stereotypes, and disproves them both through theoretical examples and through testimony from queer people who submitted blurbs to the book. Then it goes on to talk about different labels within the queer community (bear, twink, butch, etc), as well as different aspects of queer culture, and how while there are some aspects that are true and important to queer culture, they are also stereotypes or the result of attempting to offset stereotypes. The chapter ends with encouraging people to just be themselves, regardless of whether or not they are conforming to stereotypes. 

    Chapter 5: The Fear

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    This chapter focused on homophobia, and how it makes being queer difficult for many people. It distinguishes between homophobia and transphobia on an individual level from the same kind of discrimination on an institutional level. It has a section focusing on HIV/AIDS, and its impact on the gay community. It gives people tools to push back against queerphobic language or policy’s, as well as helps them identify them.

    Chapter 6: Haterz Gon’ Hate

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    This chapter focuses on the perspective of different cultures & religions, and their views on being queer. It provides a list of countries that have laws against same-sex sex between two men or two women, as well as countries that have similar or ambiguous laws. The list was up to date as of 2015. It also provides some charities people can donate to in order to help people in those countries and make it all more safe. It then looks at different religions, and takes their religious texts to demonstrate what their opinions of being queer may be, and then provides arguments against them, using those same source texts.

    Chapter 7: Coming Out

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    This chapter focuses on the action of publicly or privately allowing your identity to be known, and discusses the benefits and drawbacks of coming out. It also gives step by step advice to people who want to come out, and includes some details about the difference between coming out relating to your sexuality vs coming out relating to your gender identity.

    Chapter 8: Where to Meet People Like You

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    This chapter talks about concepts like gaydar, safe spaces (specifically the gay scene and what that might look like). It also talks about dating, and different places or ways to meet people, including directions and suggestions for using Grindr and other hookup apps.[7]

    Chapter 9: The Ins and Outs of Gay Sex

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    This chapter serves as a comprehensive sex-ed piece, focusing both on safe sex but also the mechanics of sex between same-sex couples. It also has a portion discussing STIs, teaching people how to identify them and how they are spread, including a special portion about HIV.

    Chapter 10: Nesting

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    Discussion of relationship commitments, both monogamous and polyamorous. It also discusses the different ways that same-sex couples can have children, such as through adoption, sperm donation, surrogacy, or other options. 

    Chapter 11: Hats

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    This chapter focuses on intersectionality and how being queer is not the only aspect of your identity. 

    Chapter 12: A Guide to Recognizing Your Gay Saints

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    This chapter provides an alphabetical list of ‘gay icons’, and then also reminds people of the importance of boycotting and/or blacklisting queerphobic people/companies. 

    Build A Bridge: Guidance for Parents and Carers of LGBT* Youth

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    This chapter is designed for the adults and role models in a queer child’s life. 

    The Cheat Sheet

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    List of Important queer terms and concepts, as seen throughout the book. 

    Helpful Numbers and Websites

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    Resource sheet for queer people



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Anybody watching the Tour de France, bunch of men in skintight Lycra. Some even wearing polka dots and shock horror even rainbow stripes 🌈. Seems a bit gay, lol.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,737 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Nah, watching Wimbledon, a load of lads grunting while backhanding their balls, love means nothing and nobody wants to be out. Completely normal.



  • Registered Users Posts: 41,053 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    What do you mean if that's what happened?

    The workers have been continually harassed. There is no "if"

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users Posts: 41,053 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Do you oppose any other books other than lgbt books?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    I don’t believe those aged twelve through secondary school should have books with information about “ fisting “ etc aimed towards them



  • Registered Users Posts: 868 ✭✭✭DarkJager21


    LGBT books in particular seem to want to describe in graphic detail what sexual acts occur. Why can't kids be left to be kids with innocent fairytales etc? Why do they need to know about LGBT or what sexual acts they engage in?



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,737 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    Kids shouldn't learn about sex? Or just gay kids?



  • Registered Users Posts: 41,053 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,256 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    In fairness, we're talking 12-18 tear olds - innocent fairy tales have long since their appeal.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    Well sexual activity covers a remarkably wide spectrum, I don’t see learning about fisting or scat as being essential requirements



  • Registered Users Posts: 41,053 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    The books are for young adults. They can't be taken out by 12 year olds without the parents consent.

    There's lots of books with graphic content that noone ever gave a crap about.

    This isn't about the books. It's about wanting to censor books and far right hate propaganda to suggest lgbt people are child abusers.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,256 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Scat as an.essential.requirement :) - no way do.ypu believe this is true!!

    Lies like this what gets you in trouble with the mods - and rightfully so.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,737 ✭✭✭hynesie08


    By scat do you mean the fact that analingus without proper preparation can lead to faecal discharge? Because teaching proper hygiene seems responsible to me.


    (And it definitely ain't just the gays who need to read that)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭francois


    Not to mention 12 year olds with unsupervised access on their mobile devices having access to context free pornography, why aren't the far right going after these parents?

    Far easier to throw up a few vids on Telegram harassing librarians.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,743 ✭✭✭DeadHand




  • Registered Users Posts: 16,232 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    No he means

    I mean who'd want to be teaching kids that gibberish?





  • WOKE Anheuser-Busch, owners of Bud Light, and also Modelo (the beer thick conservatives decided to choose instead of Bud Light) capitulated to right-wing terroristic threats.

    This interview will be shown in public relation classes for decades to come.

    2:50 - 4:10 is particularly disastrous.





  • Registered Users Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭francois


    Fück them. They never cared about LGBT, they just saw a marketing opportunity which backfired. As if young cosmopolitan Americans drank that pïss anyway, they prefer the thriving micro brewing scene to redneck beer.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Sacked for ATTENDING a drag show and putting up on Facebook that you were there.

    Land of the free my ass.

    Maris said she was a devoted Christian and taught her students that God loved them all equally. “We should love everybody, and that’s what we’ve been teaching, but they’re expecting us not to do that,” she said.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,256 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I wonder, would Enoch agree this is getting sacked for expressing your freedom?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,989 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    The contract would almost certainly be illegal in the EU, but the US has terrible employment laws, so may well be legal there.

    As long as she wasn't promoting her social media to the students, and showing them images or videos of it, then she did nothing wrong.



  • Registered Users Posts: 41,053 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    It's not centrists or left wing people burning buildings and tents or threatening to burn buildings in Ireland.

    How many fires or fire threats is it now

    Rooskey, Moville, Kill, Buncrana, Finglas, Sackville Street, Wicklow Town, Athy

    Post edited by Annasopra on

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,256 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    As long as they didn't threaten to punch anyone....

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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