Helen McEntee & Those Donations - threadbanned users in OP

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118715680#Comment_118715680

Lol, it's you that's clasping at straws , what in heavens name has a Masters got to do with been elected, I'd wager a 3rd of the current Dail have a basic leaving cert 🤣🤣

Again, your avoiding the silliness of your comment on how she won the by-election.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118712304#Comment_118712304

I am really struggling to understand what wrong she is accused of. From what I have read on this thread, she discovered a donation she received was over the threshold so she returned it. What is the issue with that?

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118715754#Comment_118715754

A now Blanch you'd struggle at the best of times to find anyone in FG doing anything wrong 😏

brokenangel

Two women get pregnant. One is driven out of her political party, with supporters defending the party

The other continues to work, with the support of her party but suddenly has a target on her back.

The comment here and other thread suggest a lot of people are stuck in the dark ages.

Fandymo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118714942#Comment_118714942

If he’s given more donations to her campaign it should be public knowledge, they’ll neither confirm nor deny. Stinks to high heaven.

jimwallace197

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118715774#Comment_118715774

Not stuck in the dark ages, just not willing to accept incompetence & corruption from our elected politicians & ministers who are paid very handsomely for their troubles.

Just because she is a female & had a child, doesnt mean she should be immune from criticism.

Inherited her seat through nepotism - check

Has engaged in corruption - check

Played a woke/liberal agenda at the expense of indigenous Irish people - check

Underqualified for position - check (little to no experience & masters in communication & journalism has nothing to do with being minister of justice)

The list goes on but dont let that stop you from trying to paint her as the victim somehow.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118715774#Comment_118715774

A here we go the misogyny angle, didn't take long and utter nonsense, it's actually quite disgusting and embarrassing you attempting to bring this tiresome rubbish into the debate .

Off you go if you feel this and other Threads from the Dark ages.

Legitimate questions have been asked about Donations and more Shenanigans, not about a politicians Gender.

Just for the record, the other TD your referring to had serious personal family challenges, well highlighted and as well as prolonged personality clashes locally and not just with her party , she essentially would argue with her Shadow.

Both incidently took maternity leave also and before you start , I'm not getting into that argument, a Sitting TD , Unlike the Average person can essentially stay at home for an entire Dail Term without loosing a cent in Salary .

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118715764#Comment_118715764

No seriously, on the face of it, she found a discrepancy and gave the money back herself. She didn't need to wait for an audit or anything. What is she supposed to have done wrong?

Accepted money from donors? Don't think there is a politician who can throw stones on that one.

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118715822#Comment_118715822

I guess you are referring to the dinner? which is a private function. Clue is in the name private

I struggle to see why the public needs to know about the private lives of TD's or private functions. These fundraiser are not keep secret but people who attend have the right to privacy.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118716311#Comment_118716311

It would be interesting if the full details of all functions home and abroad run by political parties were to become public.

tabby aspreme

Minister McEntee pays great lip service regarding violence against women, but ignores the thousands of assaults annually on HSE front line staff, the majority of whom are women, like Varadkar, she will spout popular soundbites but do nothing to introduce proper legislation

Suckit

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118715407#Comment_118715407

"First Fine Gael candidate" to do anything, means nothing imho. What relevance does that have? We all know the reason she got voted in. But even without that, getting voted in is not enough. There has to be more, which there really hasn't been with her.

"Has a Masters in Journalism and Media Communications." 🤯 - and? That's all well and good, but has she actually ever used that in real life?

"Plus plenty more since she started as a TD" - What more? That is the important part. As a TD WTF has she done?

"Yes a highly educated and successful women shouldn't be a role model?" - She has no experience behind her to be in her current position. Nothing earned. I for one would not want my children to think they can do nothing for years and then walk into a position of power because of my connections. It disgusts me. There are other reasons I wouldn't want it to happen, and they should be obvious enough.

_Kaiser_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118715774#Comment_118715774

The only one stuck in the dark ages is you I'm afraid. This has nothing to do with her being a woman, and everything about her competence (or lack thereof).

Your attempt to make her out to be "another victim of the patriarchy" and "misogyny" or whatever is actually an insult to all the women who have succeeded in politics and business (the CEO's in my current and previous 2 jobs were/are women for example), and who do not (and don't want to) hide behind such ridiculous nonsense in achieving their goals.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118717948#Comment_118717948

Touché 😏

FrancieBrady

Bizarre to see the 'misogynistic'' angle rear it's head here too, just because a woman's activities are under scrutiny. No such complaints from the same posters when threads are opened about other female politicians.

Any politician, male or female, with an anomaly of this size in their accounts is open to scrutiny and questioning. Nothing to fear if all is above board.

whippet

if this is the level of mud that is being thrown at McEntee she has little to worry about.

saying that she inherited her Dail seat is just nonsense - she out polled a former TD by over 1000 first preferences on a ballot with 10 other candidates and she has been elected twice since then.

Accusing her of corruption - again without any indication of what this corruption actually entailed .... can anyone put forward any evidence of what she has supposedly done that is corrupt ?

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118718370#Comment_118718370

If all else fails the Misogynistic always thrown into the mix, utterly tiresome and Ludicrous 😏

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118717948#Comment_118717948

Still waiting for an answer if you are a voter in her area or not? as you failed to answer I think we can all guess the answer.

crossman47

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118716237#Comment_118716237

I agree with you. I'm not a FG supporter (voted for them once when Garrett was leader) but this strikes me as much ado about nothing led by the Indo. For some reason they have decided to go after McEntee having already spent a lot of time criticising Coveney over another non issue - the photo taken in foreign Affairs when he wasn't even there. I heard an Indo journalist say all those staff should have been working from home. He should try coordinating calls to governments all over the world by staff each in their own home. i don't know what the Indo's agenda is but its only helping SF among people who believe the tripe they read in that rag.

foxsake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118718399#Comment_118718399

she is poor as minister - outlined in other posts such as by @_Kaiser_ and @jimwallace197 - these are legitimate concerns over her performance and I share them. I just don't think she is that good and (in particular) her stance of giving illegal immigrants status is detrimental to Irelands future and her comments regarding men in relation to the recent tragic murder - which suddenly stopped when the accused became known...why so? cos she is a fraud - playing it up for the social media types.

Some of the stuff on her "having a baby" isn't so much directed at her - it shouldn't be - but the media hype about it as if she arranged a ceasefire in Ukraine. She had a baby like most Irish women do - and go back to work after maternity leave. It's commendable but she isn't unique in this.

She does get a free ride from the press due to her gender and her "right on" pronouncements - she has learned from Leo how to operate - as has harris who has an opinion on everything bar his own performance.

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118718543#Comment_118718543

It's like most "articles" in the press these days, anything negative to the government is lapped on by the usual suspects online. Even better when it's a woman and all the hate can flow out in abundance.

Excellent example on here when we are told to ignore the lady Masters and get told her only accomplishment is to "get pregnant". I wonder how many of the people complaining about her have a Masters?

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118717657#Comment_118717657

Has you used her Master in Journalism and Media Communications? She is a TD, I gave you a hint with the highlight part. It does highlight some abvious flaws in the rest of the post when you miss that part.

whippet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118718559#Comment_118718559

that's an opinion and anyone's opinion is as valid as anyone else's. I've no real strong opinion on her performance as minister - I find her very middle of the road in that respect.

my beef is with the notions that some people think that a three time elected TD inherited their seat and is only living off the coat tails of their father along with the accusations of corruption when absolutely zero evidence or even indication of what corruption has supposedly taken place.

As for the media attention of her pregnancy - I do feel it was justified as it was the first time that a sitting minister was pregnant and highlighted the bizarre reality that there was no official maternity leave policy in place.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118717657#Comment_118717657

Which bit of being elected by voters equates to walking into a position of power because of connections?

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118718399#Comment_118718399

Nobody has accused her of being corrupt.

A newspaper printed the story and there are evasions and anomalies reported that need to be questioned.

I.E. Did she receive other donations from this donor and in what form?

Have other donors made contributions in a way to get around regulations?

Did SIPO 'force her' to deal with this as the article says, or did she discover this herself. Makes a huge difference in fact?

These questions need to be cleared up independently of her.

whippet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118718672#Comment_118718672

that is the role of SIPO and I'm sure this will all come out.

But glad you cleared up the fact that there is no evidence or suggestion of corruption

No surprise that this sort of attention comes when there is mention of her having leadership intentions - the media need to find some angle.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118718707#Comment_118718707

If there was evidence of corruption she would be gone....maybe.

whippet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118718717#Comment_118718717

I'd hope so.

brokenangel

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118718647#Comment_118718647

It seems a few people here are struggling with the concept of an election and how it works.

Dempo1

Whilst some may have been a little Zealous in their comments and hard to disagree with 😏, I started this Thread asking two ligitmate questions,

A what's going on with these Donations which required SIPO to get involved.

B. Helen being the Darling of Media generally. It was striking to me the Indo (alone) latched on to this story, a number of articles over the past week.

Indeed, now added to the mix is Leo's delight at Helens explanations, (Ironic someone receiving an explanation from a Justice Minister, whilst infact still under criminal investigation) , Leo so happy, he's appointed her husband to a senior fund raising Roll for FG 😳

I've personally not accused Helen of corruption but certainly of forgetfulness and like it or not, there remain serious questions about these Donations and general shenanigans within FG , a party very critical of others, very slow to accept any of its own failings.