How long until we see €2 a litre and will it push more to EV's faster?

mikeecho

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119346467#Comment_119346467

Prior to the whole Ukrainian thing, diesel was ~€1.64⁹

Doubt we'll ever see 1.50⁹ again, not unless the Saudis pump oil to beat the band, the $ crashes, and the € gains.

Unlikely

macvin

finally things gong in favour of the motorist.

Petrol refining margins under $25 and falling

Diesel refining margins still mid $40's but falling slowly

Demand starting to drop around the world especially Asia, refineries pumping out as fast as they can, new refinery capacity coming in stream. Blomberg expect gasoline margins to drop to $15 and diesel to to low $20's - still very profitable.

Dollar weakening a little

Oil prices steady.

We'll see petrol circa €1.80 fairly soon. Diesel towards €1.90

macvin

We may see Applegreen use their regular July 24th Birthday promo to introduce a big price drop - 24c? Very doable with the refining reductions in the last few days

mikeecho

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119359776#Comment_119359776

It's their 30th year ... So I wouldn't be surprised if fuel was 1.30⁰¢/l.

But in the past they have sold fuel for 24.7¢ , but only at selected stations for a very short period.

enfant terrible

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119359728#Comment_119359728

Will that apply to kerosene too?

ednwireland

198.9 in rathcormac, sligo on sunday 10c a litre cheaper than my local garages in donegal town, just had to fill up

For Forks Sake

Roscommon town last Sunday

UsBus

197.9 Diesel in Milltown, Co. Galway on July 18th

After the ECB rate hike tomorrow, the eur/usd should improve a bit as well to bring the barrel cost down

Petrol refining margin now down to $19

Diesel refining margin now down to $40

Miscreant

What is going on in Dublin then, gouging? I have not found a single station below the €2 mark for Petrol or Diesel (Dublin 4, 6, 12, 18 or 24). I was in Mayo last weekend and could find plenty of them under that now "magic" number!!!

Something smells fishy here.....

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119364603#Comment_119364603

Gouging is a very emotive term on this thread, probably better to describe it as continuing to make hay even though the clouds have rolled in. We all know that the market determined that it was appropriate for price increases to happen as much as twice a day when prices were on the way up, but of course the market doesn't always work as efficient in reverse.

larchielads

Guys is there much diff as in quality of fuel between maxol fuel , circle k and certa fuel, the old tesco garages, or is it all a myth? Do many of u just go where its cheapest? And if there is a diff in quality is it bad to mix the fuel as in the good with the bad when u run low, "bad" quality topped up with "good" quality?

SCOOP 64

Just go for cheapest me ,never noticed any different in the running of cars between them.

mikeecho

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119365169#Comment_119365169

Fill up at a reliable station, I choose company operated stations.

macvin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119365169#Comment_119365169

There is ZERO, absolutely ZERO difference in the base fuel product in any station.

Fuel is refined in an ongoing process 24/7. Tankers get loaded up with whatever is being produced at that minute. Tankers then travel to ports and unload into storage tankers. The "small" tankers that deliver fuels to ports like Dublin can carry about 25 million litres of fuel (the giant supertankers carry 350 million litres)

The only difference is in the additives brand put in at the point of their road tanker being loaded. These additives make little difference and the premium additives are a huge money spinner for garages.

mikeecho

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119367001#Comment_119367001

You left out the bit where some stations have their fuel cleaned with kitty litter, and re boiled to get rid of that nasty radioactive marker.

callaway92

Finally was able to fill at 199.9 in Clarecastle today. first time in a while. Hopefully the stations in the row up towards Ennis follow suit.

Maxol always hold out the longest

macvin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119367186#Comment_119367186

Since a new marker Accutrace S10 was added it simply is not economic for laundering marked diesel. And it became less economic when the Duty was reduced.

There's only been one laundering plant found in the last 3 years - previously they were finding one a month or more often.

Tanks of residue which would show laundering has been taking place are not being found these days either whereas previously they were being found almost weekly.

Further drops in refining margins - time for politicians to put pressure on the fuel companies if petrol doesn't drop below €1.80 and diesel circa €1.85 in the next week or so

John arse

Anyone filling up should maybe wait till sunday 24th-applegreen's anniversary promotion day(as mentioned on here earlier).👍

mikeecho

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119367886#Comment_119367886

They boil out the accuracy marker these days.

Still plenty of it being washed, and the by product of the cat litter is being buried.

They haven't gone away.

macvin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119368805#Comment_119368805

sinn fein and their border conies will never go away

mikeecho

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119369094#Comment_119369094

A few months ago, An unmanned station. Not too far from me was selling cheap diesel, conveniently all their receipt printers were malfunctioning.

This station only has one other depot, over 350km away.

I'm not saying it was washed.. but I'm not saying it wasn't.

I'm just saying I wouldn't buy fuel there.

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vickers209

Burke oil in rathnew co wicklow this afternoon self serve pump

patnor1011

This is how most of the green warriors think how future will looks like and how simple and easy it will be to implement it.

189 now at the Go on the Cabra road

John arse

Applegreen doing 24.7 cent off fuel for the anniversary promo i see-the times remain to be seen?🤔

vickers209

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119378989#Comment_119378989

Running now

9am for 2hrs 47 minutes

so finishes at 11.47am

24.7 c off per litre

macvin

On the Applegreen offer, a 50 litre fill will save you just over €12

Is the queuing worth it?

and there should be a 10c+ drop next week anyway. So I won't be bothering

UsBus

Lads, am in tramore and the queuing at garages is mental. 176.9 at the Apple green, the two other garages either side of it are matching the price with similar queues.

Was wondering how they could drop their price so far, but if it's only two hours they can do it.

As said about the queuing, hardly worth it but then again it's pissing down here so maybe that's part of it. Irish Summers, can't beat it.....

fryup

long queue's outside my rural applegreen this morning couldn't believe it - the power of social media i suppose😐️

John arse

Not really in the mood for a sunday morning scrum to save a few cents,only half filling a phev anyway-not worth the hassle🤔