Bizarre Carlow Cadaver Pension Fraud

The Mighty Quinn · 21-01-2022 8:41pm #1

This is honestly the most bizarre and weird story I've read about in Ireland, maybe ever.

Two men brought a recently deceased man into the Post Office this morning, propped him up and tried to withdraw his pension, were rumbled, dropped him and high tailed it out of there.

What the hell. For €240.

https://jrnl.ie/5661320

https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0121/1275143-dead-mans-pension/

AckwelFoley · 21-01-2022 6:51pm

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40790622.html

2 lads prop up a dead man to collect his pension at the post office.

Pretty classy

JP Liz V1 · 21-01-2022 7:15pm

What the hell is happening with this country

Deregos. · 21-01-2022 8:27pm

Looking forward to this being re-enacted on next month's crime call.

Finty Lemon · 21-01-2022 8:43pm

Weekend at Bernies III

coastwatch · 21-01-2022 9:00pm

Incredible, sounds more like a story from John B Keane, than a news item in 2022.

John Doe1 · 21-01-2022 9:10pm

What in the name of sweet Jaysus, Maire and Jehoshaphat?

Looks like some people did not like being forgotton in the will....

afatbollix · 21-01-2022 9:30pm

I honestly thought it said it was in Cavan and rolled my eyes and went typical Cavan lads.

But was quite disappointed when I found out my mistaken reading of the headline.

silver2020 · 21-01-2022 9:55pm

It's very funny and sad at the same time.

Almost a scene out of fr. Ted

Reading between the lines death was of natural causes and possibly two sons wanted to get a final pension.

21-01-2022 9:55pm

This story will surely go global once all the details come out for the absolute weirdness of it.

TheValeyard · 21-01-2022 9:56pm

If all the stories that could possibly distract people from the removing of restrictions. This is definitely it.

Ten of Swords · 21-01-2022 10:04pm

Threads merged

For Forks Sake · 21-01-2022 10:11pm

jojofizzio · 21-01-2022 10:13pm

What kind of dope beings a dead man in to a post office to collect his pension?

did they not realise that once you die you’re no longer entitled to it?if they were trying to commit fraud why didn’t they leave him at home?

complely bizarre 😳🤯

Beatty69 · 21-01-2022 10:14pm

Waking Ned gave them that idea!

For Forks Sake · 21-01-2022 10:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118515095#Comment_118515095

These lads wouldn't exactly be criminal masterminds.

TheRiverman · 21-01-2022 10:20pm

I thought this was some sort of spoof until I read Paul Reynold's report on RTE website. Bizarre in the extreme.

FarmerBrowne · 21-01-2022 10:24pm

Was it Dr Nick Riviera and one of his mates.

Kermit.de.frog · 21-01-2022 10:27pm

So two men must have sat down and discussed this plan in detail and thought 'great idea'.

SupaCat95 · 21-01-2022 10:30pm

No doubt IT Carlow Graduates

joseywhales · 21-01-2022 10:31pm

I actually think I would have just given them the money, just so they could have a great last story with their old man. Would have made a great addition to urban legend too.

21-01-2022 10:35pm

Nearly everyone in Carlow pretty much knows who they are and they are walking the streets of the town this evening with a bag of cans each and no remorse what so ever.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 21-01-2022 10:35pm

This sounds like a stunt from a Jackass movie...

Purple Mountain · 21-01-2022 10:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118515095#Comment_118515095

They tried that first but were told the pensioner had to be present.

CoBo55 · 21-01-2022 10:40pm

Fcukin, per unit alcohol pricing has everyone gone stone mad for money...

Kermit.de.frog · 21-01-2022 10:42pm

Source in the Independent: "He looked unwell"

joseywhales · 21-01-2022 10:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118515262#Comment_118515262

The road less traveled....

Purple Mountain · 21-01-2022 10:43pm

I assume they propped him in a wheelchair?

22-01-2022 1:01am

Couldn't believe it when the missus told me, it's only 7 Kms from me and I know the Post office Well, just the most crazy thing I've heard in a long time. 😮

mikethecop · 22-01-2022 1:54am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118514975#Comment_118514975

make ya proud t be Irish wouldn't it

BorneTobyWilde · 22-01-2022 2:01am

It was a dead cert they'd get caught .

mikethecop · 22-01-2022 3:37am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118515328#Comment_118515328

apparently , and incredibly not

Knine · 22-01-2022 7:31am

I wonder if they were taking the poor man's money every week?

22-01-2022 7:47am

If ever caught scamming social welfare, offenders should not be able to get ant further payments, ever!., even if left destitute, until its paid back in full. These guys will get a fully suspended sentence and back to their cans before the offie even opens

Caquas · 22-01-2022 10:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118516016#Comment_118516016

I doubt they will even be charged.

The pensioner had died recently so they probably did not actually get any payment fraudulently. Of course an attempt to to get money by fraud is a crime but getting a conviction is not easy and why would the DPP turn these chancers into local legends? Of course, the media would love this to go to trial.

22-01-2022 10:25am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118516283#Comment_118516283

No need to go to trial. Cancel their welfare payments, then let them go to court to get them back.

Purple Mountain · 22-01-2022 2:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118516283#Comment_118516283

That aside. Is it not a crime to not report a death? Or to misuse and degrade a body?

It's morally disgusting anyhow.

Caquas · 22-01-2022 3:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118517166#Comment_118517166

It’s horrible. How could anyone treat the body of a loved one like this?

A death must be registered within three months. I’d guess that the pensioner died very recently and it was public knowledge in the locality which is why these lads were told that to prove the pensioner was still alive.

A growing number of Irish people (5%?) have no respect for the law and contempt for law enforcement. Even common decency is beyond them. Their attitudes are reinforced by every encounter they have with authority, especially the courts.

There isn’t the slightest possibility that these ghouls will suffer any legal sanctions.

osarusan · 22-01-2022 3:09pm

I'd guess he died just a short time before and they thought they could squeeze one last pension payment out of him by staging his death while it was still believable (in their heads at least) that he could have died in the post office.

22-01-2022 3:15pm

It’s all very Fawlty Towers .

Munstergirl854 · 22-01-2022 3:21pm

They would have had to drag him into the shop...there wouldnt have been any shuffling of the feet even,and what about when he had to sign his name?They would be conveniently moving his hand for him...

All for the price of a few slabs....this story as bizarre as it is..just shows the problem society has with home drinking,the minority of men/women addled from sitting around all day drinking cans and totally numbed to the outside world.

silver2020 · 22-01-2022 3:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118515850#Comment_118515850

No one will give a damn. It has already gone viral and whilst sad and wrong, it has given many people a chuckle.

No-one really cares whether it's Ireland, UK or the USA

jojofizzio · 22-01-2022 3:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118515292#Comment_118515292

Fair enough🤔😳😃

Purple Mountain · 22-01-2022 5:00pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118517646#Comment_118517646

Would they not have been better trying a Naked Camera stunt and one dress up as the old man?

They were probably too stupid to think of anything rather than the obvious.

Caquas · 22-01-2022 5:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118517529#Comment_118517529

The Brits are probably worse than us but the Americans would deal seriously with an attempt to defraud the social security fund. No laughing matter and very likely to involve jail time.