Women's Periods and Vaccine/booster/Covid effects

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118487428#Comment_118487428

There has already been studies done (available a quick search away) and there will be future studies, anyone telling someone to go to one of the reporting sites for side effects either didn't read the big notice they all have on the home page or is not posting in good faith.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118486792#Comment_118486792

Also trying to conceive.

I take my temperature every morning to monitor cycle, have cut down on alcohol, sugar, exercising 3-4 times a week, and focusing on sleeping well. All to support a regular and healthy cycle which I track.

Both jabs significantly affected my cycle. Once a year, I can do, but multiple times a year is a no from me.

Chances of conceiving are significantly hampered if you have 3 - 4 seriously irregular cycles.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118487983#Comment_118487983

Research is ongoing, yes.

And you don't get to police who can look at VigiAccess LOL!

The absolute neck on you, sometimes.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118488286#Comment_118488286

Eh? The vigiaccess home page polices itself, quit the pearl clutching, posting the VAERS, VigiAccess and UK database has been a common tactic from anti-vaxxers to spread FUD and gets called out every time it happens.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118489040#Comment_118489040

The vigiaccess home page polices itself

Which is exactly why it's remarkable that you feel the need to police it, like you're somehow uniquely imbued above all others with the ability to... read.

ceadaoin.

How drugs might affect women specifically is usually just an afterthought and female issues are often hand waved away and not taken seriously by the medical establishment, so the attitude regarding vaccine side effects is par for the course really. What it boils down to is 'women, its no big deal. stop complaining and do as you're told'. Now with added accusations of being an anti vaxxer!

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118489786#Comment_118489786

You've spent your time downplaying a fact check article on the same site, not sure what your agenda is with it, but it is one of the most common forms of FUD being posted about vaccines. If it offends you that people take the time to warn people about it's misuse, so be it, be offended.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118490967#Comment_118490967

There has already been multiple studies into this and further are in progress, there is a lot of time and money being spent on this by the medical establishment, it's a bit phoney to say it's being hand waved away (which has been an issue in the past).

voldejoie

I got the J&J vaccine last summer in Ireland, with no side effects or impact on my menstrual cycle. I got my Pfizer booster here in France the week before Christmas, which was a day or so before I was due to ovulate (I have pretty severe endometriosis so I track ovulation religiously because it can be a big factor), and I haven't had a period since, which is very unusual for me. Granted I've had some of the period symptoms I usually get, along with some very mild cramps, but no bleeding at all. It's a bit disconcerting but I've found people very dismissive whenever I've brought it up so far! And at the end of the day I don't really care because I'm not trying to conceive, but if it is something that can throw your cycle out of whack it needs to be recognised and explained, especially to women trying to get pregnant.

ceadaoin.

"COVID-19 Vaccination Has Little Impact on Menstrual Cycle"

"COVID-19 vaccination associated with a small, temporary increase in menstrual cycle length, suggests NIH-funded study"

"COVID vaccines may briefly change your menstrual cycle, but you should still get one"

"Study links Covid-19 vaccination to small increase in menstrual cycle length, but experts say it's no cause for concern"

"Little impact", "briefly", "small", "temporary", "no cause for concern"

If those headlines aren't the very definition of downplaying and dismissing the issue then I don't know what is. The fact is, for many women it hasn't been minor and brief and they are being told it's no big deal. They have no idea why this is happening yet women are told to get it anyway. Same old, same old.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491102#Comment_118491102

To the conspiracy theories forum with you..

amdublin

No. No impact whatsoever

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491102#Comment_118491102

They are the results of studies, would you only be satisfied if they found issues? That's bizarre.

Downplaying it would be those headlines after no research, that has not been the case.

ceadaoin.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491143#Comment_118491143

No, it's the results of one single study being reported in such a way. That's it, the issue is completely resolved now. It's no big deal. "This is it ladies, we looked in to it with that one study to keep you happy now just get on with it and stop asking us about it". Lol

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118490967#Comment_118490967

the story about viagra not being tested on women for its original intended use; and now having possibly suffered a massive missed opportunity as a result, makes for an interesting tale.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491171#Comment_118491171

There are further studies being done as well, so it's like, the opposite of that.

littleoulme

Thanks so much everyone, I did mention it to my GP and that I had done three pg tests in total and all negative, He said to book appt once I am over covid itself.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491010#Comment_118491010

You've spent your time downplaying a fact check article on the same site, not sure what your agenda is with it, but it is one of the most common forms of FUD being posted about vaccines. If it offends you that people take the time to warn people about it's misuse, so be it, be offended.

I've spent my time pointing out that a fact check article about a video that refers to VigiAcces is not the same thing as a fact check article about VigiAcces.

When told to use HSE/HPRA data instead, I asked if VigiAccess was just a centralised collation of the sort of information that's collected by HSE/HPRA and was told that was a "misrepresentation" without any reason why.

Then you felt it necessary to stick your oar in about the VigiAccess home page saying people shouldn't misuse the data as though 1: anyone were misusing data in this thread and 2: you were somehow uniquely in-the-know about this, rather than agreement being a literal prerequisite to seeing the data.

"Agenda" my hole.

If your goal is to get as many people as possible vaccinated, I would respectfully suggest that you stop running into every thread like a headless chicken on crack at the mere whiff of something that you personally think might have once been paraphrased by an antivaxxer's second cousin's dog.

fits

I think it’s hard to attribute to the vaccine because as someone else said cycles can be fickle enough. It’s amazing how little we know about them really. I can understand why someone trying to conceive would be keen to avoid any disruption.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118492972#Comment_118492972

I think the "study" where they looked at the data from one fertility app, plus the anectodal experience of thousands of women, is proof enough that covid vaccines are causing menstrual disruption.

I also think that if they looked at the same fertility app data in relation to covid, or flu, or pretty much any viral infection, they'd find something similar.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118492759#Comment_118492759

If you want to be angry at people pointing out people spreading FUD (which is usually what happens when the side effect reporting sites are posted to vaccine threads) then feel free to continue, it reduces the debate to angry parody account (and this is a pattern I've seen in other threads, so not sure if there is an agenda there or if it's genuine anger you feel when people are sharing information that doesn't suit your internal narrative).

Anyway, this isn't the thread for it, vigiaccess is a site that contains unfiltered reports of side effects from vaccines and should be used as such, if you want to share insights from it fire ahead, if you want to continue getting angry at people sharing information, go ahead as well, it's easy to ignore and there is a pattern that has emerged.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493089#Comment_118493089

If you want to be angry

I'm not. You should stop reading things into other people's posts that aren't there.

This is a pattern I've seen from you across many threads. I'm not sure what your agenda is or if you just think you're so much smarter than everyone else that you have to constantly be educating people, but let's not forget that you jumped in here to tell me something about the VigiAccess database that you literally have to agree to before you access the VigiAccess database, as though I didn't know it and as though you alone could be the one to educate the masses. And now you're here bleating about my "agenda". Narcissus himself would envy your chutzpah.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493309#Comment_118493309

I'm not.

Doesn't seem like it, but anyway :)

stop running into every thread like a headless chicken on crack

"Agenda" my hole.

And you don't get to police who can look at VigiAccess LOL!

The absolute neck on you, sometimes.

But look, I've tried to bring this multiple times to actually talking about the VigiAccess site and what it is good and not good for (like actually debate and discuss it), you seem determined to reduce it to personal digs, that's on you.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493395#Comment_118493395

If you want a discussion about all things VigiAccess you can start one instead of butting into ongoing threads with your "education" on things people already know.

c.p.w.g.w

My understanding is that the lipid nanoparticles used in encase the mRNA element of the vaccine is an area of concern...which comes from a rat study where is was shown to travel to the ovaries...

Agreed rats aren't Humans, but that study is dismissed as anti-vax propaganda, yet no actual discussion to alleviate concerns...just shout Anti-Vax at anyone who has concerns or has potentially suffered a side affect...

The whole Pfizer study whistleblower story being deemed fake news by Facebook fact checkers...those same fact checkers have links to Pfizer...

Also this sudden trust of big pharma is strange considering there history...

J&J talken powder laced with asbestos, and they still deny it, despite their internal documents which state they knew some batches with asbestos was sold to people...

It's scary that you now can't have a concerns about a vaccine without being called an anti-vax

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118497762#Comment_118497762

They were developed by BioNTech and Moderna, Pfizer signed up to scale production, so not exactly a "big pharma" source. What are the sources for this information? There is a vaccine thread as well to discuss the vaccines if you wanted a wider audience. Not sure why you're deciding to include a talcum powder story either.

c.p.w.g.w

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118497782#Comment_118497782

Pfizer Trail Concerns

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635

Facebook Mislabel

https://www.inpublishing.co.uk/articles/facebook-urged-to-act-over-incompetent-fact-check-of-bmj-investigation-20265

I am for vaccines and open to discussing concerns...

I am double Vaxxed for Covid19 and up to date on all other vaccines...

Also on the topic of OP...I hope there is no connection with irregular periods and vaccines, but there has been a scary dismissal of these concerns, that's what is the most worrying things to emerge during Covid19

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493781#Comment_118493781

He's a well known member of a faction of boards posters who camp in various forums trying to police what people should or shouldn't discuss. Not worth the time debating on any topic.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118497875#Comment_118497875

That shouldn't have been labelled as such, BMJ wrote a letter about it here to Meta:

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635/rr-80

These investigations need to be happening to keep the bar for medical treatments extremely high. Did you find a source on the nano lipids and rats?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118497880#Comment_118497880

Bloody hell Markus, I gave you the time of day on your space fakeness asking for some semblance of a theory that could be debated and you couldn't even put together the most basic of arguments and spent your time shouting at all the other posters for asking you questions, this was after you posted your own fake picture and argued multiple times that it was real before admitting you were caught. These are discussion forums so discuss sh*t and stop with the name calling and personal attacks.

c.p.w.g.w

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118497902#Comment_118497902

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/22/15/8283/pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjymayszLz1AhV6Q0EAHb7YCl4QFnoECAUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2kpz1zK0VlvXaGnIRQmeE5

That's the link to the study

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118497908#Comment_118497908

Thanks, interesting read, there was also a human study done as well, LNP have been studied for a while and are toxic in sufficient quantities (as is everything), hence a lot of the work around mRNA vaccines has been to refine the use of LNP to be absolutely safe for humans to use.

This article does go into the impact of the vaccines specifically and worth a read (particularly the difference in noticed accumulations and data around injection site being removed from online articles to stay on a certain narrative):

COVID-19 vaccines don’t affect ovaries or fertility in general; the vaccines are highly effective at preventing illness and death - Health Feedback

2017 human study: Nanoparticles and female reproductive system: how do nanoparticles affect oogenesis and embryonic development (nih.gov)

NCBI Source link for the Mice study: Ovarian Accumulation of Nanoemulsions: Impact of Mice Age and Particle Size (nih.gov)