Women's Periods and Vaccine/booster/Covid effects

littleoulme

Hi All,

Has anyone else noticed changes in their cycle after getting the booster or vaccine/and or having covid?

shesty

Yes, this was discussed in the main thread.I haven't myself but I have at 4 friends who are not on contraception. The 2 vaccines and the booster each caused their periods to come not long afterwards, a week or two early.It is most definitely a side effect.Myself, my contraception stops periods so it didn't seem to affect me that way.

littleoulme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118446679#Comment_118446679

Thanks Shesty, I will have a look in the main thread, couldn't find anything when I did a search

shesty

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118446686#Comment_118446686

Oh it is buried pages back, in either the Restrictions thread or the main thread.But yes, women have found this as an effect.

littleoulme

Thanks so much, I had my booster 2nd week in dec, was due around xmas and now have covid, have done pregnancies tests all negative..

Galadriel

Yes, but only after the booster. I got it back in November, then I started menstruating outside of my normal cycle, it did not stop for 6 weeks, I had to go to the doctor twice to get medication.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058226937/womens-periods-and-vaccine-booster-covid-effects

There's some pretty good info in this thread.

https://twitter.com/VikiLovesFACS/status/1479359757450457088?s=20

mvl

thought i did, after my vaccines; but recently i had seen my gynae, she said otherwise (and explained why i had different behaviour, defo not vaccine related)

zefirki

After second Pfizer jab my periods returned 14 weeks later.my cycle all my life been 28-30 days.Got Covid now(confirmed on the 11th jan my PCR).I have periods second time in 2 weeks!thats madness. Please dont tell me nothing is related..because it is!!

pfarrel1

Hi All great website here it's an organisation funded by Who it gives a list of all side affects associated with the vaccine. It's called VigiAccess. org . Just type in covid 19 vaccine and all the info is there.

fits

No effect here.

mortis43

Yes - after my first shot my period came a week early which was highly unusual for me as my periods are like clockwork and have been for the past twenty years. I was quite alarmed with the side effect.

I'm now trying to conceive and hugely reluctant to get the booster. I know I probably should due to the risk of getting COVID while pregnant but I can't shake the feeling I had after that initial side effect.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118483941#Comment_118483941

Talk to your doctor if you have any questions, pregnant with COVID has been a high risk state that they're trying to avoid as much as possible.

Dial Hard

Not just after vaccination/boosters, the "Covid period" is definitely a thing. My post-menopausal cousin got Covid over Christmas and got her period. She hasn't had one in six years. I've another friend who had Covid recently and got the heaviest period she's ever had.

I haven't had my booster yet but I had no issues after the first two doses.

Lumen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118479943#Comment_118479943

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/10/15/fact-check-post-misleads-whos-vigiaccess-tool/6101202001/

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118485581#Comment_118485581

Maybe I'm missing something, but what relevance does a fact check article of a video of a section of VigiAccess that concludes it's "missing context" have to do with VigiAccess itself, which is what the other poster was directing people to?

holliehobbie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118484124#Comment_118484124

your cousin needs to see a Dr just to be sure it’s not something more sinister.

c.p.w.g.w

I know my wife's cycle has been affected but not to dramatically...but her best friends is all over the place, like 2 months without it and other stuff...

It has concerned herself and her friend, as we and her friend are trying to conceive...

Unfortunately my wife's Dr has said it's normal and nothing to worry about, and not taking her complaints seriously

Lumen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118486735#Comment_118486735

Because VigiAccess does not "give a list of all side effects associated with the vaccine". That is a misrepresentation, similar to those discussed in the article I linked to.

A better source for that sort of information is the HSE or HPRA.

e.g.

http://www.hpra.ie/homepage/medicines/covid-19-updates/covid-19-vaccine-communications

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118486825#Comment_118486825

But VigiAccess is just a centralised collation of the sort of information held by the HSE/HPRA-type bodies of many countries, isn't it?

Lumen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118486874#Comment_118486874

That's also a misrepresentation.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118486895#Comment_118486895

How so?

Lumen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118486916#Comment_118486916

For the reasons described in that fact check article.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118486933#Comment_118486933

That fact-check article says that a video nobody has posted here is missing context.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118487060#Comment_118487060

Read the vigiaccess home page, it also makes you agree not to misuse the data before you're allowed to see the data along with a number of other conditions. UK and US have equivalent sites with similar warnings not to misuse the data.

A lot of anti-vaxxer rhetoric is based on misusing that data, science just ignores them and uses it for it's intended purpose and keeps collecting the data anyway (anyone who got a vaccine is encouraged to submit any side effects).

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118486735#Comment_118486735

That's just the go to, attack the source..

I don't get how it's supposed to be just fine that it's messing with these things though, and that it's nothing to worry about..

Lumen

Every fckin thread on this forum is infested with antivax bullshit.

The thought that women planning pregnancy would be influenced by this horseshit is infuriating.

If you want medical advice, speak to your GP or gynaecologist. If you want background info, read the HSE guidance and HPRA reports.

I'm done.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118487135#Comment_118487135

In this case, the source attacks you and other anti-vaxxers, it'd be funny if it wasn't so serious.

Stormyteacup

How is it anti-vaccine? It’s a side effect but seems to have been minimised or maybe put down to ‘vapors’ or ‘humors’.

A legitimate side effect experienced by many people needs to be addressed publicly and fears allayed.

It seems the case that the vast majority of issues around menstrual irregularities resolve themselves quickly - so why are they not as widely mentioned and put to bed as much as myocarditis?

It’s ridiculous to dismiss a concern from a reported side-effect. Address it properly instead on sweeping it under the carpet.

magicbastarder

A better source for that sort of information is the HSE or HPRA.

does the HSE track these effects?

my wife's cycle was knocked for six, and she has friends with similar experiences. all of whom who i've talked to would happily take another booster despite these side effects; this is not an anti-vax stance. but please don't suggest the HSE is an authority on this, when i've seen absolutely zero evidence that they have made any effort to track side effects. they are republishing info which has been provided to them

which includes - from the link you provided (and i would be highly amused if this is not sex-disaggregated)

1% to less than 10% of reports describe side effects such as:

 Menstrual disturbancees

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118487101#Comment_118487101

Well, sure, but nobody was misusing the data. Someone simply referred to it and then Lumen posted a fact check article about a video nobody posted and said that my question about whether VigiAcces is "a centralised collation of the sort of information held by the HSE/HPRA-type bodies of many countries" is a "misrepresentation", without saying why.

I think the "antivaxxer rhetoric" might actually be a bit less commonplace if people would stop speaking so definitively about things they only suppose, particularly when such things have been repeatedly shown to be evolving through the pandemic.

Menstrual cycles are fickle things, and they can be thrown off by anything from stress to exercise to tummy bugs. But we've thus far run the gamut as far as the media and the narrative police go, from "anti-vaxxers are lying about the vaccine affecting women's menstrual cycles" to "the vaccines are affecting menstrual cycles but that's totally okay" with a few stops along the way.

For anyone genuinely seeking information, particularly women in their late 30s or early 40s trying to conceive, you must see why that is incredibly frustrating. It comes across as infantilising nonsense that presupposes that grown women need to be "managed" in terms of the information they receive or they'll just start believing that Bill Gates is trying to hamper their fertility and burning down 5G towers.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118487428#Comment_118487428

There has already been studies done (available a quick search away) and there will be future studies, anyone telling someone to go to one of the reporting sites for side effects either didn't read the big notice they all have on the home page or is not posting in good faith.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118486792#Comment_118486792

Also trying to conceive.

I take my temperature every morning to monitor cycle, have cut down on alcohol, sugar, exercising 3-4 times a week, and focusing on sleeping well. All to support a regular and healthy cycle which I track.

Both jabs significantly affected my cycle. Once a year, I can do, but multiple times a year is a no from me.

Chances of conceiving are significantly hampered if you have 3 - 4 seriously irregular cycles.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118487983#Comment_118487983

Research is ongoing, yes.

And you don't get to police who can look at VigiAccess LOL!

The absolute neck on you, sometimes.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118488286#Comment_118488286

Eh? The vigiaccess home page polices itself, quit the pearl clutching, posting the VAERS, VigiAccess and UK database has been a common tactic from anti-vaxxers to spread FUD and gets called out every time it happens.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118489040#Comment_118489040

The vigiaccess home page polices itself

Which is exactly why it's remarkable that you feel the need to police it, like you're somehow uniquely imbued above all others with the ability to... read.

ceadaoin.

How drugs might affect women specifically is usually just an afterthought and female issues are often hand waved away and not taken seriously by the medical establishment, so the attitude regarding vaccine side effects is par for the course really. What it boils down to is 'women, its no big deal. stop complaining and do as you're told'. Now with added accusations of being an anti vaxxer!

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118489786#Comment_118489786

You've spent your time downplaying a fact check article on the same site, not sure what your agenda is with it, but it is one of the most common forms of FUD being posted about vaccines. If it offends you that people take the time to warn people about it's misuse, so be it, be offended.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118490967#Comment_118490967

There has already been multiple studies into this and further are in progress, there is a lot of time and money being spent on this by the medical establishment, it's a bit phoney to say it's being hand waved away (which has been an issue in the past).

voldejoie

I got the J&J vaccine last summer in Ireland, with no side effects or impact on my menstrual cycle. I got my Pfizer booster here in France the week before Christmas, which was a day or so before I was due to ovulate (I have pretty severe endometriosis so I track ovulation religiously because it can be a big factor), and I haven't had a period since, which is very unusual for me. Granted I've had some of the period symptoms I usually get, along with some very mild cramps, but no bleeding at all. It's a bit disconcerting but I've found people very dismissive whenever I've brought it up so far! And at the end of the day I don't really care because I'm not trying to conceive, but if it is something that can throw your cycle out of whack it needs to be recognised and explained, especially to women trying to get pregnant.

ceadaoin.

"COVID-19 Vaccination Has Little Impact on Menstrual Cycle"

"COVID-19 vaccination associated with a small, temporary increase in menstrual cycle length, suggests NIH-funded study"

"COVID vaccines may briefly change your menstrual cycle, but you should still get one"

"Study links Covid-19 vaccination to small increase in menstrual cycle length, but experts say it's no cause for concern"

"Little impact", "briefly", "small", "temporary", "no cause for concern"

If those headlines aren't the very definition of downplaying and dismissing the issue then I don't know what is. The fact is, for many women it hasn't been minor and brief and they are being told it's no big deal. They have no idea why this is happening yet women are told to get it anyway. Same old, same old.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491102#Comment_118491102

To the conspiracy theories forum with you..

amdublin

No. No impact whatsoever

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491102#Comment_118491102

They are the results of studies, would you only be satisfied if they found issues? That's bizarre.

Downplaying it would be those headlines after no research, that has not been the case.

ceadaoin.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491143#Comment_118491143

No, it's the results of one single study being reported in such a way. That's it, the issue is completely resolved now. It's no big deal. "This is it ladies, we looked in to it with that one study to keep you happy now just get on with it and stop asking us about it". Lol

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118490967#Comment_118490967

the story about viagra not being tested on women for its original intended use; and now having possibly suffered a massive missed opportunity as a result, makes for an interesting tale.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491171#Comment_118491171

There are further studies being done as well, so it's like, the opposite of that.

littleoulme

Thanks so much everyone, I did mention it to my GP and that I had done three pg tests in total and all negative, He said to book appt once I am over covid itself.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118491010#Comment_118491010

You've spent your time downplaying a fact check article on the same site, not sure what your agenda is with it, but it is one of the most common forms of FUD being posted about vaccines. If it offends you that people take the time to warn people about it's misuse, so be it, be offended.

I've spent my time pointing out that a fact check article about a video that refers to VigiAcces is not the same thing as a fact check article about VigiAcces.

When told to use HSE/HPRA data instead, I asked if VigiAccess was just a centralised collation of the sort of information that's collected by HSE/HPRA and was told that was a "misrepresentation" without any reason why.

Then you felt it necessary to stick your oar in about the VigiAccess home page saying people shouldn't misuse the data as though 1: anyone were misusing data in this thread and 2: you were somehow uniquely in-the-know about this, rather than agreement being a literal prerequisite to seeing the data.

"Agenda" my hole.

If your goal is to get as many people as possible vaccinated, I would respectfully suggest that you stop running into every thread like a headless chicken on crack at the mere whiff of something that you personally think might have once been paraphrased by an antivaxxer's second cousin's dog.

fits

I think it’s hard to attribute to the vaccine because as someone else said cycles can be fickle enough. It’s amazing how little we know about them really. I can understand why someone trying to conceive would be keen to avoid any disruption.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118492972#Comment_118492972

I think the "study" where they looked at the data from one fertility app, plus the anectodal experience of thousands of women, is proof enough that covid vaccines are causing menstrual disruption.

I also think that if they looked at the same fertility app data in relation to covid, or flu, or pretty much any viral infection, they'd find something similar.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118492759#Comment_118492759

If you want to be angry at people pointing out people spreading FUD (which is usually what happens when the side effect reporting sites are posted to vaccine threads) then feel free to continue, it reduces the debate to angry parody account (and this is a pattern I've seen in other threads, so not sure if there is an agenda there or if it's genuine anger you feel when people are sharing information that doesn't suit your internal narrative).

Anyway, this isn't the thread for it, vigiaccess is a site that contains unfiltered reports of side effects from vaccines and should be used as such, if you want to share insights from it fire ahead, if you want to continue getting angry at people sharing information, go ahead as well, it's easy to ignore and there is a pattern that has emerged.