Fire in Molesworth Street

Annasopra

The Masonic Lodge in Dublin was set on fire tonight. A man was injured.

https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2021/1231/1269356-masonic-hall-dublin/

Absolutely disgusting and shameful to see a lot of the far right like Angela Ray and Grand Torino celebrating it and cheering it on.

Fckn idiots gonna be fckn idiots

seenitall

I don’t get the implication here, why is the far right anti-masonic? Thought the whole concept of freemasons etc. was something definitely belonging to the right wing spectrum of things?

I just reread the OP and looked up the Twitter account referenced. The account is at best unhinged, and frankly has a very small following. Easy to find any old idiot who aligns themselves with a certain political persuasion, and extrapolate that this is representative of the general view of those who identify themselves as similarly politically aligned.

The fact someone set such a historical and intricate building on fire is more worrying, not what some moron on Twitter tweets about it.

Still stihl waters 3

It's frightening how easily some wnaker like this lady can become spoken about on social media, 20 years ago she would have to write a letter to the editor where it would have been fcuked into the bin, nowadays like minded cnuts like her can be seen and heard by any idiot willing to listen

I hope whoever did this will be caught and punished to the full extent of the law and the person injured makes a full and speedy recovery.

Disgraceful.

Pythagorean

Who the hell is this Angela Ray anyway ? Never heard of the bitch.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118398364#Comment_118398364

A far right persona that started out as a Gemma O'Doherty groupie. Theres a load of them all like Angela and Grand Torino and their supporters absolutely delighted with this news.

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058225235/fire-in-molesworth-street

That woman is a looper...I think she is a flat earther....serious run ins with TUSLA as well...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118398441#Comment_118398441

A lot of crazy fckers on the interwebz, from both "sides". Although I just group em all in together as loopers and losers.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118398364#Comment_118398364

She's Jay Ray's auntie. Went a bit crazy after the sex tape with Paris Hilton 😜

TooTired123

The truth of the matter is that Angela Ray can barely read or write. She has no idea why she is delighted that the Freemasons building is on fire. Some Twitter account that she follows will be celebrating and she just joins in.

Her brain is slightly melted from many years of substance abuse. She’s to be pitied more so then anything else.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118398833#Comment_118398833

Lol at the "both" sides whataboutery. Nah there is no both sides on this cheering on and delighted about the fire. Its the far right who are so delighted about it.

https://twitter.com/artimusfoul/status/1477106301561982980?t=AmVrJP0xQQcJ8kz-QfhaMg&s=19

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399218#Comment_118399218

What are you talking about? Being far right (or far left) is absolutely no indication for support (or lack thereof) of freemasonry.

A lot of freemasons are what you would consider far-right. There are plenty on the left who are vehemently against freemasonry.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399218#Comment_118399218

You're trying to distract from the central issue, a disgusting arson attack, and instead use it to discredit "far" right wing ideology by reposting tweets from some unhinged and deranged people, who have limited followers. This is quite disingenuous.

I would however like to thank you for the thread, I was unaware such a historical and impressive building was set on fire, it is very sad.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399272#Comment_118399272

It isnt the far left jumping for joy about this fire.

Back to the issue at hand, who was injured? No matter who they are, I hope it's not too serious. I wonder what part(s) of the building were damaged. As you enter, there is the bar on the right, which has a very interesting library. At the rear, there is the museum. On other floors there are a lot of intricate rooms with differing themes.

I hope the perpetrator is brought to justice via the full rigors of the law.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399389#Comment_118399389

Lol.

No you are right, it's the left who are sympathetic to the Freemasons and freemasonry in general.

You know, the organisation majority full of white middle aged men, with a lot of ties to politics and policing if rumours are to believed (gammon is it?), who also don't allow women to enter?

Sound left leaning to me.

What the hell are you trying to do? How many masons do you know personally?

Some absolute prick set fire to a historical building and injured a man, and you use it to take pot shots at "the right" because some lunatics like Gemma o Doherty and her ilk are laughing about it?

Happy new year. Hopefully we won't see as much politic baiting **** stirring for the remaining 364 days.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399543#Comment_118399543

Eh, the far right are the crowd that have largely been pushing the anti vaccination rallies. There's a huge overlap with those attending the rallies who believe in QAnon nonsense. The far right have embraced conspiracy theories and that's the reality...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399583#Comment_118399583

Oh right.

What has that got to do with a dickhead starting a fire in the grand lodge?

Seems like certain people are pushing this as a left Vs right agenda (as is par for the course), instead of labelling it as a despicable act carried out by an arsehole.

But yeah, take it. Freemasonry is left wing now.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399606#Comment_118399606

Exactly. Why are the far right celebratring the fire so much.

Danzy

Sick thing to do, it's a beautiful building. The radical left and radical right both hate the Freemasons but then again the list of people they hate is very very long.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399692#Comment_118399692

The far left are not the ones celebrating this fire.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399704#Comment_118399704

Their sometimes colleagues on the far right are but the radical left has a long history of hating the masons.

Viewing them as Royalists, Zionists, quasi Jewish,capitalist etc etc.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399606#Comment_118399606

Never said it was left wing, Freemasonry has always been the target of conspiracy theories including by the likes of the Nazis or Franco. So it's not as if it's the first time they've been targeted by the right.

I get around my upset at this by not being on twitter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399704#Comment_118399704

I’m thoroughly confused though. Aren’t the masons far right? Masonic lodges are hardly communist leaning.

Jequ0n

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399218#Comment_118399218

Oh great, someone “seemingly” making a comment on Twitter is now used as a source?

I bunch these far left and far right internet warriors in the same bucket as loonies and losers. It's 2022, time fo get out more

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399723#Comment_118399723

Banned in the USSR too. Hated by the RCC and by extension the IRA, basically hated and banned by people who don't understand what it is and see it as a threat.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399760#Comment_118399760

The saying that a Socialist is just a fascist with a nice garden comes to mind.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399776#Comment_118399776

I have never heard any IRA volunteer talk about Freemasons. I've heard a lot who hated the Catholic Church.

All we know is that there was a fire? Is it known whether it was deliberate? I don’t get this thread.

whisky_galore

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399799#Comment_118399799

They liked breaking into and wrecking masons halls in the war of independence.

Arthur Daley

And Sinn Fein about to walk into government with no effective opposition....

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399704#Comment_118399704

No. **** are celebrating the fire. Your bizarre and frankly ludicrous obsession for wanting to classify everything you dislike as "right" or "far-right" is bemusing.

Just because you seem to be obsessed at everything the lunatics you follow on social media say, doesn't mean that "the far right" are delighting in this.

Fuck sake. Grow up. A man was injured in what looks to be an arson attack and your immediate response is to turn it into a left Vs right thing.

Pathetic.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399723#Comment_118399723

Again, showing your bias there Mike. The "left" are not immune to their own conspiracies.

But it's handy to put things in boxes.

Would you consider freemasonry to be left or right?

How many masonic lodge members do you personally know?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399667#Comment_118399667

They aren't. Lunatics you follow on Twitter are saying it because they are ****. Their political leaning means nothing.

Fuck sake.

You're the same kind of person who would be the first to shout " not all Muslims" because of the actions of a few. Perhaps put you biased opinion aside and accept that you are blinded by your bizarre fixation to demonise people who disagree with you.

Beasty

Thread needs some tidying up and some mod instruction

It will be re-opened before too long

Beasty

A number of posts deleted

You may all consider yourselves armchair sleuths but keep your theories/speculation/idle gossip to yourselves. Leave it for the relevant authorities to determine cause and fault

Equally one person celebrating something like this delivers absolutely no political message from either left or right so drop that nonsense

Any questions PM me - do not respond to this post in thread

Reopened

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399776#Comment_118399776

The RCC position is that nothing good can come from secret societies and Christians should not join.

greenpilot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399272#Comment_118399272

..as a member for 24 years, I've not once encountered a Right-Wing Mason. Most of us are middle to left. The misinformation in threads like these is extraordinary.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118402381#Comment_118402381

Misinformation? You're a member of a secret society. Do you not see the irony there?

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118402403#Comment_118402403

Is there an irony there?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118402381#Comment_118402381

Your experience is vastly different than mine. I'm not saying every mason I know is a far right zealot, but any man who is a member of a men only fraternity would be rarely looked at as a left wing ally by certain posters on here unless the narrative suited them. Such as this thread.

silver2020

Seems the mod doesn't like the facts to be on the thread

No wonder boards is dying a death.

We'll maybe this Irish times report is good enough

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/anti-vaccination-graffiti-found-after-suspected-arson-at-masonic-hall-1.4767318

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118402443#Comment_118402443

That doesn't necessarily mean that they are right wing.

It's a bit of a given at this stage that even James Connolly or Karl Marx wouldn't be pure enough for much of the left today.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118402528#Comment_118402528

Absolutely. I didn't mean to insinuate the masons are far right or even right wing, but I was surprised to see Anna see them as a target of only the right wing.

xzanti

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118402381#Comment_118402381

I'm genuinely curious. What does "Hail the Light" mean?

I've encountered this recently and I'm fascinated.

TooTired123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118399543#Comment_118399543

I’d imagine it’s only going to get worse. The idea that the far left are sympathizing with the Freemasons is just staggering and tells you exactly how far off course they are at the moment. Between this and being the chief cheerleaders of the longest lockdown in the world it would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118402912#Comment_118402912

Anyone with a scrap of basic humanity would sympathise with victims of a criminal arson attack. Your own denigration of this tells you exactly how far off course YOU are at the moment.