The Masonic Lodge in Dublin was set on fire tonight. A man was injured.
Absolutely disgusting and shameful to see a lot of the far right like Angela Ray and Grand Torino celebrating it and cheering it on.
Probably that chap off the Ryanair flight a few weeks ago...
"Open your eyes to the bleeding plandemic"
Indeed
They are even saying the alleged perpetrator shouted anti vax slogans as he jumped into torch the place.
Christ the governement needs a start a eugenics program in this country.
I have uncles who are masons in Donegal and thought that they are viewed as being rulers of the world is bloody laughable.
Times going with the antivaxx narrative today...
What kind of steps would you like to see taken?
You remember the post that I actually responded to?
The idea that the far left are sympathizing with the Freemasons is just staggering and tells you exactly how far off course they are at the moment.
Ah ok. Sorry Andrew, I did forget that comprehension isn't your strong point.
If you read what I actually said rather than what you THINK I said, I said that it was ridiculous to believe that only the left stand in solidarity with the Freemasons while the right are delighting in the attack.
I never once said it was ridiculous to stand in solidarity with a victim of a violent crime.
Nice try though.
I’d love to hear how I “denigrated” the victims of the suspected arson attack on the Masonic lodge. Please point out specifically the “denigration” or apologise for your mistake. Thanks.
This lot are paranoid conspiracy theorists. They tend to maybe revolve around the right more so at the moment, but they’ll jump on any conspiracy.
They’re buying into predominantly American urban legends and online conspiracy theories about COVID and that tends to feed into some aspects of fringes of right politics, but there’s more than that involved in it.
You’re looking at cult like behaviour, often coupled with extreme gullibility and poor analytical abilities.
That’s what’s even more worrying. You’re not dealing with some obnoxious, but developed ideology. Instead, it’s a jumble of nonsense, trigger topics, paranoid theories and generally isn’t very clever or logical. It’s reinforced online by people who either genuinely believe it, or political actors use it to manipulate and cause chaos.
How you deal with that, I don’t know. It’s a challenge for the social media age and I think we have seen a lot of bleed over from the long standing American tinfoil hat brigade.
COVID fits their conspiracy theories and it’s fed even more paranoid stuff and lashing out behaviour.
Short memories?
No.
Remember when you said that there was something ridiculous about standing in solidarity with the victims of a violent crime?
I really don’t think Irish officialdom has been taking them as a serious threat and it’s been allowed to get way out of hand.
I mean, you see all sorts of absolutely weird threats being made online, various people including politicians, prominent scientists and healthcare people, media and even Gardai being badly harassed, yet with little or no response at all.
Ireland isn’t immune to, or entirely isolated from online crazy spreading into the real world.
It’s definitely not something that’s widespread in the general public or politics like it is in the USA, and I think we are cynical enough and most of us seem to have an inbuilt ability to spot bonkers b/s from several miles off, but it just needs a small number of hardcore conspiracy believing unhinged types to cause crazy stuff.
Anti-vaxxers, Qanon, conspiracy theorists, Freeman idiots, and the far right now represent a domestic terror threat. That's where we are today. I'm not sure what the next steps are but it's time the authorities started taking this more seriously.
I missed that? Was it when I called is disgraceful and hoped that the person responsible is punished to the extent of the law?
Nobody has condoned this.
Nope, I got the point completely. What you seem to have missed is that there is anything strange in standing in solidarity with any victims of violent crime such as arson. That's not a vote of support for anything or everything that Freemasons do. It is just noting the abject horror of trying to set fire to a heritage building based on far-right nonsensical radicalisation misinformation.
Oh Andrew, you spectacularly missed the point.
The reason this whole thread was created was to have a pop at the "far right".
We are merely commenting on how ridiculous the premise is that the "left" are the ones who are standing in solidarity with the Freemasons while the "right" are delighted about it.
Anyone with a scrap of basic humanity would sympathise with victims of a criminal arson attack. Your own denigration of this tells you exactly how far off course YOU are at the moment.
I’d imagine it’s only going to get worse. The idea that the far left are sympathizing with the Freemasons is just staggering and tells you exactly how far off course they are at the moment. Between this and being the chief cheerleaders of the longest lockdown in the world it would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
I'm genuinely curious. What does "Hail the Light" mean?
I've encountered this recently and I'm fascinated.
Absolutely. I didn't mean to insinuate the masons are far right or even right wing, but I was surprised to see Anna see them as a target of only the right wing.
That doesn't necessarily mean that they are right wing.
It's a bit of a given at this stage that even James Connolly or Karl Marx wouldn't be pure enough for much of the left today.
Seems the mod doesn't like the facts to be on the thread
No wonder boards is dying a death.
We'll maybe this Irish times report is good enough
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/anti-vaccination-graffiti-found-after-suspected-arson-at-masonic-hall-1.4767318
Your experience is vastly different than mine. I'm not saying every mason I know is a far right zealot, but any man who is a member of a men only fraternity would be rarely looked at as a left wing ally by certain posters on here unless the narrative suited them. Such as this thread.
Is there an irony there?
Misinformation? You're a member of a secret society. Do you not see the irony there?
..as a member for 24 years, I've not once encountered a Right-Wing Mason. Most of us are middle to left. The misinformation in threads like these is extraordinary.
The RCC position is that nothing good can come from secret societies and Christians should not join.
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You may all consider yourselves armchair sleuths but keep your theories/speculation/idle gossip to yourselves. Leave it for the relevant authorities to determine cause and fault
Equally one person celebrating something like this delivers absolutely no political message from either left or right so drop that nonsense
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It will be re-opened before too long
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