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Solar PV Monitoring/Automation Thread

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Whats the options for a solis hybrid inverter with the latest dongle to get data into home assistant?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 366 ✭✭mjatkey


    Solis api/cloud integration or the Solis modbus which drops the cloud piece unless you do the local rs485 work around.

    The cloud one now offers the inverter control which works well.

    🌞 6.96kWp PV System. West Dublin🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 366 ✭✭mjatkey


    Yeah, got an esp32 all set up and working well with the Seplos BMS, gives me a good enough view of what is going on with the Seplos and the WECO's now.

    As for the Shelly, flashed it with Tamasto then tried flashing ESP32 ota but currently won't upload from HA to the device although it is pingable, tried flashing it through usb but ended up distroying the board so thats work in progress.

    🌞 6.96kWp PV System. West Dublin🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 366 ✭✭mjatkey


    Guys, looking for help.

    I got hold of a Huawei R4850G2, I have the power adaptor and CAN adaptor and have it set up and working..ish.

    I can vary the voltage no problem but all I can get it to output amps wise is 5A.

    Below are the "frames" I have been sending to it, voltage changes work fine.

    I can0 108180FE [8] 01 00 00 00 00 00 E9 16 58.1V not fixed

    can0 108180FE [8] 01 00 00 00 00 00 D5 2A 53.1V not fixed

    can0 108180FE [8] 01 01 00 00 00 00 E9 16 58.1V fixed

    can0 108180FE [8] 01 01 00 00 00 00 D5 2A 53.1V fixed

    can0 108180FE [8] 01 01 00 00 00 00 E4 00 57.00V fixed

    can0 108180FE [8] 01 00 00 00 00 00 E4 00 57.00V not fixed 1024

    can0 108180FE [8] 01 00 00 00 00 00 E3 1C 57.00v not fixed 1020

    can0 108180FE [8] 01 04 00 00 00 00 00 32 50 Amp fixed?

    can0 108180FE [8] 01 04 00 00 00 00 C8 00 50 Amp fixed (1024)

    can0 108180FE [8] 01 04 00 00 00 00 C7 38 50 Amp fixed (1020)

    I have downloaded the USBCAN software, which seems to work fine. (not sure what everything means or does?)

    Found a lot of info online about the Huawei rectifiers but what ever way I am doing it the output current stays fixed.

    I know its only 5amp as I have it temporarily connected to just the Seplos battery and the BMS studio is showing the current going in.

    I have a few bits ordered ESP32 and VP230 so am hoping to integrate it into HA which again hopefully will make it easier to view and make changes.

    Any pointers as to what I am doing wrong currently would be appreciated.

    Thanks

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    🌞 6.96kWp PV System. West Dublin🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 366 ✭✭mjatkey


    Guys, HA question, adding another Dell Wyse in another location, should I build a fresh HA install and add the integrations, addons etc or could I use a back up from an existing install and just remove the bits I don't need, change the static IP and ducknds? Also does anyone know if you can run integrations on both HA install at same time ie Solis (API) Tyua etc, or would it depend on the integration? Thanks

    🌞 6.96kWp PV System. West Dublin🌞



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,505 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Another location and new instance of HA to monitor the same devices, or is this an instance for another location and different sensors entirely?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 366 ✭✭mjatkey


    Bit of both, essentially I want to be able to monitor a Seplos battery hanging off a Solis in an apartment, I figured it was easier and probably no dearer to buy the Dell (£25) then use an ESP32 running the BLE battery management integration then trying to get remote access to the ESP32 (I know it can be done) but the video on YouTube was an hour and a half with god knows how many twists and turns the HA route seemed a lot simpler. (Apart from the last 5 days trying to get HA on the Wyse 3040) but thats another story.

    🌞 6.96kWp PV System. West Dublin🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,505 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Ok… still not entirely sure what you're up to, but essentially if you restore the instance onto a new HA then it will start looking to connect to each of your devices to pull the status. In my case it would not work for my z-wave or zigbee devices as the second instance wouldn't have access to the USB dongles, but also Shelly devices as they need to be configured with a single endpoint server (no option for two).

    So I'd say to just go with a new fresh instance from scratch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 366 ✭✭mjatkey


    Yeah, I think you are right as I don't have any where near as much memory on this one so the less "stuff" is on it the better. Thanks

    🌞 6.96kWp PV System. West Dublin🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 366 ✭✭mjatkey


    Guys,

    Has anyone tried building a DC current/voltage monitor for integration into HA using the below items?

    If so did it work?

    Only I'm just looking at a cheaper/simpler alternative to the likes of a Victron shunt.

    Currently I'm using a separate rectifier as well as the inverter to get the batteries to 100% soc during the 4 hour EV window. I was looking at using a shunt but as I have two separate charge sources I figured I'll need two devices to measure total energy going in to the batteries which gets expensive for very little extra info/control that I don't already have.

    I also like the idea of not adding addition hardware, and just passing the DC cables through the ct.

    ChatGPT can supply the yaml for HA, but was looking for a steer as to whether it works/worth it, I have a few ESP32's spare and the QNHCK's don't look expensive.

    Thanks

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    🌞 6.96kWp PV System. West Dublin🌞



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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    A traditional CT can't measure DC current.

    Hall effect sensors that can read dc currents.

    Edit it is a hall effect sensor. Not a CT

    Edit 2: you'd need to use some sort of voltage divider to keep the input below 3.3v on the esp32



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 366 ✭✭mjatkey


    Thanks graememk, yeah Chat has that covered, just wondered if anyone had tried one and did it work?

    ⚡ Option 2: Measured Voltage (dynamic)

    If your DC bus varies (e.g., solar, batteries), you can also add a voltage divider into another ESP32 ADC pin. Example for 0–60 V bus → scaled to 0–3.3 V input:

    🌞 6.96kWp PV System. West Dublin🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,505 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    How are you planning on creating a voltage-drop on the battery cable without adding in a resistance, or are you going to use the cable as the resistance?

    For the voltage I haven't done it but I don't like using voltage divider on such a high input voltage for a number of reasons. But it can be done.

    https://forum.arduino.cc/t/measuring-up-to-50v-dc-using-arduino-and-a-voltage-sensor/1245052/10

    https://ohmslawcalculator.com/voltage-divider-calculator

    If you do it in ESPHOME then you can map the ADC input voltage to the measured voltage using a linear mapping (calibrate_linear).

    https://esphome.io/components/sensor/#calibrate_linear



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 366 ✭✭mjatkey


    Thanks 10-10-20, to be honest I've not really looked any further than what is a cheap, simple alternative to a Victron shunt.

    Then threw it into ChatGPT to see what it could do in terms of configuration into HA, wiring etc.

    Food for thought.

    🌞 6.96kWp PV System. West Dublin🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,505 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    It's technically challenging alright, but that's not to say that it can't be done at a DIY level.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Ask it to do it with a shunt resistor

    I'm using one like this with my zeva https://amzn.eu/d/6apteHO

    Must check the code on the zeva but it's a proportional calculation on the voltage drop across the shunt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭bullit_dodger


    Hi guys - buddy of mine (also a software engineer) recently got a Solid Hybrid installed. What's the best route to getting this into HA. He was saying that the android phone app is 5 min update frequency. I've a GivEnergy solution myself and there's a REST Api for it - I'm hoping that there's a similar story for Solis?

    Do you need any hardware, or is it just open a ticket with Solis to enable your account and get a API token?

    Thanks folks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,505 ✭✭✭10-10-20




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,525 ✭✭✭championc


    For anyone with an upcoming install, consider asking your installer specifically for the Solis S6 (which replaces the S5). It looks like a rebadged Deye, which therefore allows local access to data from the inverter



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    It's similar, but very unlikely to be a rebadge



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭oaklands


    also check the battery Voltage range + charge/discharge amps or even better read the datasheet in detail.

    (EDIT) Reason: They have a lot of different spec inverters. I think the one being referred to is S6-EH1P(3-8)K-L-PLUS. The specs look very similar to the Sunsynk/Deye equivalents.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Looked at the manual it's very similar.

    Totally different screen but internal hardware is very similar, (even the 500v max input voltage)



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