F1 2022 thread - see post 1 for rules

mickdw

I think Ricciardo will have to turn in a few good results where he beats Norris in order to hold his seat for next year.

Probably better out of there in reality. A smart team boss realizing he hasn't become a bad driver overnight might sign him for pennies for next year and get the real Daniel back.

Hijpo

Vettle to retire after the brake dust issue and bust up with FIA

Albon to Aston to replace him

Ricardo to Williams instead of Albon out of desperation and a chance to beat a team mate

Gasly to Mclaren to replace D Ric

????

mickdw

Ricciardo straight to Aston more likely imo.

PsychoPete

I thought I seen that Gasly is signed to Alpha Tauri till 2024, Vettel leaving Aston Martin is probably Ricciardos only chance at a drive next year if Mclaren don't want him

flazio

Ricciardo might still be driving for McLaren next year, just not the Formula 1 team.

Faugheen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119333889#Comment_119333889

I think he will be. McLaren have signed up Alex Palou and I wouldn't be surprised if he does a year with the Indy team and then comes into F1 for 2024.

McLaren aren't going to have short-term success so they may as well play the long game. Keep Danny Ric there and then move Palou over.

Frank Bullitt

Can see Ric staying put. Sounds like he had the option to end the contract early, not McLaren. So he might hold tight to see what unfolds.

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119334844#Comment_119334844

I didn't think of that. Mclaren must be kicking themselves if that's the case.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119334864#Comment_119334864

The latest video by The Race mentioned it. It’s clear Ric wants to stay at McLaren, the car just doesn’t respond to his style, it’s not from lack of trying.

I hope he has a good rest of the season, solid points will take the pressure off

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119334877#Comment_119334877

Ah yeah I presume he's trying his best. And I'd like to see him get on top of the car. The intra-team bettle would be great to watch.

His failure to adapt to the car has shown a major flaw in his skill set though. Some reputational damage is already done, even if he gets on top of the car and has a few good results this season. If he doesn't get on top of the car the reputational damage will be huge.

Jacovs

IndyCar driver Colton Herta also done some test days for McLaren in the past week. In their 2021 car at Portimao. There is an article on the F1 app about it.

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119334877#Comment_119334877

A year ago that would have been a reasonable excuse, but one and a half seasons in and two completely different cars is too long to be blaming driving style and not to have adapted. I do struggle to see McLaren keeping him on unless he has an absolutely airtight contract with huge financial penalties for replacing him. I struggle to see any other team taking him on either, though he does still hold some marketability due to his nationality and character.

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119335946#Comment_119335946

As I said before, you can have a driver/team conflict that can cause these issues too. See Vettle and Raikkonen at ferrari or Gasly at Red bull in the recent past but I can give more historic examples

Edit Button and Rosberg discuss it here

https://youtu.be/BJBJQAUE0qM

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119336106#Comment_119336106

I don't disagree with that, certainly being thrown in the deep end against Max Verstappen at Red Bull or enduring the pressure cooker of Ferrari where they love to blame drivers for failings of the team are situations that make it difficult to flourish.

But that's really not the impression McLaren give out, they've been very supportive of Daniel and he's had a significant amount of time now to acclimatise and just gotten nowhere. People thought Monza would give him the confidence boost he needed but it turned out to be a one off. People thought the new car with completely different characteristics this year might be a reset but nothing has changed. And he's not just being beaten by his much less experienced teammate, he rarely gets anywhere remotely close to him. I don't have any stats to hand to prove it but at a guess I'd say it's the biggest gap between teammates on the grid outside of Albon and Latifi and Vettel and Stroll.

AMKC

https://youtu.be/_e6JYFP9T9o

Was a great race that with great racing. Man I miss that Formula 1.

I think Formula has passed its peak and will never be as good as it was like in 2010 or 2011 or 2012. I remember them years. That was Formula one at its peak when anyone could watch it live and when the wider media cared about it too.

Also look who commented on You-Tube

flazio

Not the real Daddy Stroll I'm pretty certain.

Also I know it's about the racing not the aesthetics but those tiny rear wings looked horrible.

guyfo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119339572#Comment_119339572

It was far harder to watch back then, no nowtv or coverage of practice sessions, pre event coverage or any of the channels covering f1 we now have on youtube like wtf1, the race, autosport etc. The cars were ugly as hell and the racing wasn't as good either. 2011 and 2013 were crap seasons, 2010 had its moments but the cars couldn't overtake and that lead to a total anticlimax procession of a finale, the start of 2012 was interesting.

Peak f1 definitely wasn't the early 2010s, we are in peak f1 at the moment, it's absolutely exploding in popularity across the world thanks to all the effort put in since Bernie got the boot. Liberty have done a fantastic job making the sport easier to follow.

El_Duderino 09

I would have said were in a peak right now. The championship is competitive for the second year in a row, the cars can follow and overtake, and the tracks are generally pretty good. There are also some really top drivers in the sport and competing at or towards the top like Max and Leclerc, Hamilton and Norris.

Completely agree that liberty have made a huge difference. Bernie didn't give a shiny shyte about the actual sport. He just waslbted to sell it to thr highest bidder. That conman sold f1 several times and never owned it once.

Liberty has made the racing better, and DTS has made f1 accessible to a broader audience. What a time to be alive.

AMKC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119339703#Comment_119339703

Ye maybe not.

I agree about the tiny rear wings.

duploelabs

There's no close racing in that era due to the dirty air, plus the cars were pig ugly. This year's regs have really improved both factors

Jordan 199

Two more races to go before the summer break. French GP this weekend followed by the Hungarian GP next weekend.

Joeface

Looks like 33-35C for race time on Sunday , what will the Track Temp be then .........Cooling is going to be a issue .

El_Duderino 09

Reserve driver, Nyck de Vries, will take Lewis's car for FP1 in France. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to wonder aloud if this suggests Hamilton's retirement at the end of the year. But it's probably just business as usual. These things are probably arranged long in advance.

Motorsport.com: De Vries to replace Hamilton in FP1 at French GP for Mercedes.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/de-vries-mercedes-fp1-french-gp-hamilton/10340488/amp/

SureYWouldntYa

Its a mandatory FP1 session for a young driver, every driver has to give up at least one during the year, a track like France you're unlikely to wreck the car with all the runoff so it's ideal

Will probably see a few of these in the next few races, they probably didn't want the young drivers using sessions early in the year when they were trying to understand the car, and you don't want them taking sessions during crunch time later in the season

guyfo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119364193#Comment_119364193

The conspiracy theorist in you obviously doesn't know the rules of the sport then so.

He has to step aside, just like every single other driver on the grid.

Jacovs

He also did FP1 in a Williams at the Spanish GP earlier this year, instead of Alex Albon.

I know wikipedia isnt a reliable source, but thought it interesting that they list him as the "insurance driver for when seven time world champion Lewis Hamilton retires".

Will the dutch fans not be conflicted about cheering for mercedes?

El_Duderino 09

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119366875#Comment_119366875

I dont know about you but I couldn't give a shiny shyte about the teams. I'll cheer for one of the drivers in pretty much every battle, particularly the WDC. I've cheered for a Mercedes, a ferrari and a red bull to compete for the WDC in the last few years.

Max fans won't cheer for anyone but max. Dutch fans will probably cheer for both Dutch drivers and still have a favourite

MadYaker

It looks like to be another hot race weekend with temps in the 30s. Ferrari are probably worried.

Idleater

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119367262#Comment_119367262

Agreed, was the same back (a few) years ago with the Dutch following Jos. The only difference nowadays is there are celebratory drinks, as opposed to just finishing drinks.

Jacovs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119367262#Comment_119367262

Doesnt bother me either. I dont have a particular driver or team that I support. Just glad its competitive among a few drivers.