Why is Dublin such a shιtty city?

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118257516#Comment_118257516

What drug treatment centres ?

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118258954#Comment_118258954

there's one on Amiens St but the poor souls who go there daily seem to be harmless. Also much of the north inner city has been "gentrified", there are some lovely apartments in the IFSC and most of the houses in North Strand are privately owned now by professionals.

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118259229#Comment_118259229

I'm acting the maggot T , I work with addicts.

TomSweeney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058220383/why-is-dublin-such-a-sh%CE%B9tty-city

Tourists aren't allowed into the country anymore op with the medical dictatorship running the kip now so don't worry about it OP...

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L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118244095#Comment_118244095

The KFC in the middle of Camberwell, a few doors down from a swanky boutique hotel, had bulletproof glass between the cashiers/kitchen and the punters. Its exceptionally dodgy.

Gregor Samsa

There’s something about the word “shιtty“ in the title that keeps making me read “slutty” as I scroll past. It makes me miss Dublin.

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118257127#Comment_118257127

I grew up in Dublin City, studied there and spent my formative years & presently work in the city centre chief. 😉

Your London adventures in the free museums sound amazing and I found them amazing too... If (like me) museums, galleries & cultural interests float your boat you should some try the ones in Dublin, the cultural hub of Ireland. Most of them are considered world class. The ones you pay for are very reasonable and are really worth it (particularly the Little museum of Dublin, EPIC museum & Kilmainham Gaol which is a must, it's very cheap & it's an emotional place with a lot of heart for anyone from Ireland). Here's a list of the free ones in Ireland:

The National Gallery of Ireland - Free

The Hugh Lane Gallery - Free

The Chester Beatty Library - Free

The Irish Museum of Modern Art - Free

The National Museum of Ireland - Free

The Bank of Ireland Building - Free

Leinster House - Free

The James Joyce Tower & Museum - Free

The Garda Museum - Free

The Revenue Museum - Free

There's lots more like Trinity that will open up again after the pandemic, or when it's under control.

Anyone can see that I'm more familiar with the city than you are. I can confidently say walking around the city at night is perfectly safe, I do it all the time, in fact millions do and survive. I'm just after walking from Baggot st. to Amiens st. to hop on a bus home with my work camera gear worth €4k in a bag on my back and I didn't get murdered, raped, robbed, beaten, savaged or tormented. I can report that the streets are clean, the city is alive & buzzing, lots of people moving around unharmed & there's no "exclusion zones" (the drama!) or no no-go areas. That's just amusing barstool talk.

Great that you enjoyed the zoo, it's a modernised Victorian classic, certainly not the first place I'd visit in my capital... But if you want some real Irish wildlife head to the nature reserves in Dublin, I work with the Dublin Bay Biosphere, in particular the Bull Island area. PM me if you're truly interested and I'll hook you up with some pointers.

*Don't post back and say you've seen them all, cause you clearly haven't.

riclad

Dublin has theatres museums concert halls parks I lived in a small town there was no cinemas 7 pubs and that was about it I'm very happy to live In dublin unless you work there you don't lose much by a avoiding the city centre we could do with more Gardai on the streets its probably the fact we do not have the funding of a city like new York most of Dublin is fine I avoid certain places near a O'Connell street

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118249889#Comment_118249889

That’s complete and total BS.

Every major capital has a bigger problem with this than Dublin. Especially Paris, Amsterdam, Brussels and Berlin.

JimmyVik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118260527#Comment_118260527

I have actually been to them all apart from the Bank of Ireland building. Each of them took about half an hour to go around.

Kilmainham Gaol was good, for a school tour. Went there as an adult then and it was boring. The rest are pretty **** too. The dead zoo was great when you are a kid, but fairly sh!t to go see again.

Im from Dublin, lived and worked in the city center for about 25 years up until a few years ago. Live about 15km from the city center now though.

I dont think you've been to Dublin city center at all tbh.

If you have that much of a rosy tint, you've definitely not been there. Do you seriously think there are no dangerous areas in Dublin? Well you are the only one in the country who thinks that.

I think what we have in this thread is akin to Joe O'Reillys parents thinking he didnt murder his wife. People who just cant see outside of their own heads.

JimmyVik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118261037#Comment_118261037

I agree with you there. Look, I like Dublin, and I think its a lovely city. Its the 3 km circle around the top of O'Connell street that could be so nice, but its a neglected sh!thole that no tourist is going to go home with good reports about. If you see it every day you are somewhat used to it, but a tourist will notice it. And the people saying that tourists tell them they love Dublin, well thats like you telling the wife her bum doesnt look fat when she asks you.

OEP

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118261139#Comment_118261139

Define dangerous. The north city centre isn't dangerous, are there elements that aren't nice to look at? Yes but that doesn't make the place dangerous. There are dangerous areas in Dublin but I wouldn't class the city centre as one of them.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118261151#Comment_118261151

But like Grafton St, Merrion Square, the South William St area, all of these nice places are less than 3km from O'Connell St?!

JimmyVik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118261429#Comment_118261429

I sais top of o'connell street. Rotunda to be exact. Yes there are one or two nice places in that 3km circle. There are many, many not so nice places in that circle.

JimmyVik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118261390#Comment_118261390

Ah come on now. Get real. The North inner city is dangerous. Cant believe you have to be told that.

I know personally two people personally who were mugged in the last year in Dublin city center. Both women. You can read the papers to find out about even more crimes in Dublin. Ive seen so many videos of toerags tearing up the city and troubling people just out for a drink or a meal in the city center. Surely youve seen them too. Not too hard to find. Lookup youtube under Dublin wildlife or something like that. I dont personally know anyone who was ever mugged anywhere else in Ireland apart from the city center.

Just for the craic i google crime in Dublin city and here is the first link.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/i-ll-blow-your-f-king-legs-off-crime-and-neglect-in-dublin-city-centre-1.4483079

"THE ENCOUNTER WE WITNESS comes less than a week after more than 140 local residents attended a crisis meeting about an upsurge in violent crime. Held online, it came following two fatal knife attacks in the area in recent weeks and in response to growing “fear, anxiety and deep sadness at what is happening”, says Noel Wardick, chief executive of the Dublin City Community Co-operative.

What is happening? Residents, community activists and youth workers all agree that a sense of increased drug-related violence, threat and intimidation in recent months has brought heightened fear to the area.

A report published last month, Debts, Threats, Distress and Hope: Towards Understanding Drug-Related Intimidation in Dublin’s North East Inner City, said almost a quarter of people here had experienced drug-related intimidation. More than 80 per cent saw it as an issue but less than one in five would report it.

The report said open dealing and low-level intimidation were normal, making the area feel unsafe and causing people to change their routines, avoid areas, stop letting children play outdoors, and to withdraw and cut off contacts with others in their community.

Of the 23 per cent who said they had experienced drug-related intimidation, 67 per cent had been threatened with physical harm; 53 per cent had been followed or tracked; 45 per cent had been threatened with vandalism of their property – including with pipe bombs – and 12 per cent threatened with sexual violence."

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118261557#Comment_118261557

The whole of Dublin 2 and all the nice places within it is within 3km and even some of the leafier parts of Dublin 4. Your bearings are way off.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118261631#Comment_118261631

I think it's dangerous by Irish standards. Which mean it's not particularly dangerous by European standards and Safe by world standards.

I spent 20 years going out in Dublin and never had a problem. One fella threw a dig at me and missed.

Yellow_Fern

So much of the city is smothered in horrible cement, rust and algae. The Dublin Civic Trust are doing great work to beautify the place

JimmyVik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118261832#Comment_118261832

I think you are struggling there :)

So there are a few nice parts of Dublin withing 3km of the rotunda. A huge proportion of that is sh!t town im sure you'll agree.

growleaves

If someone likes art (which not everyone does and that's fine) they can appreciate that NGI and Hugh Lane are very good galleries with collections that include paintings from European masters.

In the portrait section of NGI they have originals by Reynolds and Gainsborough.

The person who is bored by that is going to be just as bored at Manchester Art Gallery, the London National Portrait Gallery etc so the argument is very weak here imo.

Not sure what the obsession with the Rotunda is but Hugh Lane and the Gate Theatre are around the corner. Again, you should first ask yourself if you even like looking at paintings and going to plays before you rubbish these particular places.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118262391#Comment_118262391

No I quite like the city centre , but it's an odd thing to say that 3km of the rotunda is horrible, given the nicest parts of the city centre are within 3km of the rotunda

JimmyVik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118262633#Comment_118262633

I just picked the rotunda as the centerpoint of a 3km circle where most of the sh!t hole parts of Dublin can be found. Little did I know that people would be on pointing out the few nice places within that circle to boost there argument that there are no sh!t areas of the city.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118262843#Comment_118262843

There is a violence problem in D1 which is why the Guards have started Operation Citizen because it was getting out of hand. That seems to be bearing fruit now.

Apart from that there is a bit of (relative) poverty but it's not exactly Calcutta. There are a "few nice places" even in your highly localised example of the worst area, what does that tell you.

The actual worst areas like Jobstown and Ballyfermot are completely self-contained and outsiders never have any reason to go there. Some aggro along the canal going through Bluebell, just don't cycle that way.

JimmyVik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118262916#Comment_118262916

OK, I can see people are blind to it. Simple fact of the matter is I could take you walking within a few moniutes from O'Connell street around places where you wouldnt want to be left on your own. Lots of them. Sure, we could walk to some nice places as well, but nice places are not the issue, its the bad places that are the issue.

Ush1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118262916#Comment_118262916

Jobstown is rough but I would definitely consider the north inner city worse. Neither are no go zones though.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118262391#Comment_118262391

I think you need to draw a 3km circle around the Rotunda to understand how ridiculous that is.

Phoenix Park, Iveagh Gardens, Merrion Square, Stephens Green, Trinity College, Christchurch, St Patricks Cathedral..... and many more.

JimmyVik

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118263100#Comment_118263100

Name the bad places in there. Go on, i dare you :)

You'll be typing far longer.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118263237#Comment_118263237

Define "bad places"?

Places I wouldn't walk at nigh? Zero. Places I would steer tourists away from: Talbot Street, Sean McDermott St

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118261139#Comment_118261139

The National Museum of Ireland in half an hour? The bog bodies alone take half an hour.

You're spoofing. I don't think you've been to any of them. You haven't a clue about the city or what it has to offer! I'm in the North inner city all the time and have never been harmed, not once, bringing the kids in on Saturday to see the lights, do the shopping and go for some food. I'll make a bet with you. I bet you €1000 that nothing dangerous will happen to us.

Thelonious Monk

There is nowhere in the city centre I wouldn't walk at night. My ex girlfriend has lived in the North Inner City for years, nothing has ever happened to her, current girlfriend has a place in the North Strand, never any trouble.

The f*cking hysteria with Irish people being terrified of tracksuits or blocks of flats is just ridiculous. I used to walk through Sheriff St to get to my ex's place all the time, which was a no go zone maybe in the early 90s, now it's absolutely fine.