Why is Dublin such a shιtty city?

dublinman1990

The remaining dirtier parts of the city centre should really try to be more clean & presentable to tourists and to other business visitors in the future.

O'Connell Street is aimed at them to be it's main vocal point of the city when it's promoted to people who live outside the country.

It's general appearance should be vastly improved to give them an overall snapshot into how the rest of the Greater Dublin Area actually looks on a day to day basis.

If I look at my own local part of Dublin within the suburbs. The footpaths are all clean and spotless. There are no used needles dotted around the main roads or footpaths. There are also no bags of rubbish lying anywhere around the main street.

I would be pretty happy to say to other people that you would actually love to be in my neck of the woods if you came to visit it. If you were a tourist and I gave you a tour of the place for the very 1st time; you would be extremely impressed with how it looks in terms of it's appearance.

All I'm asking here is why can't our main thoroughfare of Dublin aspire to become something like this in the near future?

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757435#Comment_119757435

Pretty much what I expected - nonsense. No real point, just try to dodge any kind of genuine debate.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757765#Comment_119757765

Spitting on the ground is disgusting. But it doesn’t make the city a Kip. Using it as an example of what’s wrong with O’Connell st. Is hilarious

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119757638#Comment_119757638

Funny you should mention Paris, real shining example of a world city that.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/two-face-charges-after-girl-12-found-dead-in-suitcase-outside-her-paris-home/ar-AA133HX7

Didn't they recently put open air urinals on the streets in Paris because there was so many people pissing in the street anyway? So vibrant, a true sign of a city on the up.

I was in Budapest recently though, lovely city. Debrecen too. You'd be horrified, not world cities at all 😕

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119758814#Comment_119758814

You have a very strange definition of recently:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-paris-open-air-urinals-changed-cityand-helped-dismantle-nazi-regime-180973704/

Most cities in Europe have public urinals. They are great. What exactly are you trying to prove with that nonsense?

Yeah, Budapest is a great city. Because it was the 2nd city of a massive empire. But that’s not why you brought it up. You wanted to make a sly point about brown immigrants ruining cities.

Tonesjones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119759015#Comment_119759015

From making excuses for people spitting on the street to now condoning pissing on the street.

Anything except a bad word for someone from overseas.

Don't go to an Eastern European city.

John_Rambo

Just walked the length of O'Connell st. Can honestly say it's spotless on this stunning October day, lots of people around (of all colours) smell of food & coffee in the air.

Here's the webcam for the keyboard warriors.

https://www.carrollsirishgifts.com/dublinwebcam.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwtKmaBhBMEiwAyINuwGINj0F2ctFNQrg53LmulmsNXtPWY3Jl5uTwk-_iL6y2wQeb0DE2qRoC0v8QAvD_BwE

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119759062#Comment_119759062

Apparently pissing on the street is fine so long as you're pissing into a box. Note the change from "open air urinals "to "public urinals".

Chap insists on reading between the lines when reading the actual lines is beyond him.

Thanks to the lad that posted another link to the GPO, always good to be reminded how ugly the road paving is on that stretch, another great decision by DCC. Looks like it built with Lego, which is misleading as Lego has some grip.

orourkeda1

I'm 45. I was born and raised in Dublin. Up until my mid thirties Dublin was a city that I was proud to call my home.

For a city of it's size it was thriving and it always had a significant amount to to all year round.

Even a native like me has to admit that Dublin has regressed horribly over the last decade or so.

O'Connell Street has become an embarrassment. I have seen on more than one occasion that the council didnt even sweep the street for days on end. The surrounding area can be just as bad.

What makes this worse for me is the fact that Dublin is such an expensive city to do anything in. I have a number of friends in the UK and this is the first thing they mention when the city's name is mentioned.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119759062#Comment_119759062

why are you telling lies now? I didn’t make any excuses for either spitting or pissing.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119759552#Comment_119759552

So now you won't even reply to me, pretty cowardly.

Explain to me the difference between "open air urinals" and "public urinals" there chief. I look forward to this critical difference winning you the debate.

Cluedo Monopoly

Jesus Christ. Grow up the 2 of ye.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119759829#Comment_119759829

I quite enjoy @brian? and his willingness to rely on obtuseness to see him through. Quite entertaining

Pretending that pissing into a box on the street is a public urinal. I might have to use photos to illustrate the difference. He will not be easily dissuaded

Presumably what Dublin really needs is piss boxes distributed around the city centre, really let us know that we've finally arrrived as a vibrant metropolis.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119759588#Comment_119759588

Good article on O'Connell Street.

Is it time we give up on Dublin's O'Connell Street? · TheJournal.ie

Never mind that O’Connell Street in reality is a glorified bus colony, ends no further north than the spire for most folks and is among the best spots for watching drug users in the city.

The street is at the centre of and serves as the crossroads between a number of important shopping districts. It is a vital public transport link in the city, and also somewhere a lot of people pass through on their way to Connolly Station. But that seems to be what O’Connell Street is: Somewhere you pass through.

It has a footfall of over 100,000 people per day, but the proof is in the eating: Cleary’s didn’t close down because of evil capitalists and their machinations, it closed down because not enough people out of that 100,000 stopped, walked in and bought stuff every day.

DownByTheGarden

Ive lived in Dublin all my life and there was a time when it started turning from a dump into a very nice city. Around 1990 to 2015 it was lovely.

But the last few year have been shocking altogether. Im on the city center every day nearly and I can tell you it has gone from a very nice city center a few years ago to a dump that people just dont want to be hanging out in anymore.

All it would take are some gardai and a proactive effort to get the scumbags who make the city horrible for other people under control and then clean the place up and make it at least respectable to spend time in. I really dont see why they dont put in any effort into saving Dublin city center.

PommieBast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119760239#Comment_119760239

I lived in Dublin 2013 to 2021 and looking back I certainly feel that there was a certain vibrancy in 2014-2016 that was no longer there 2018 onwards. Oddly enough 2016 was when rents started getting silly, and it tended to be language students rather than younger professionals going to meetups.

Do have a real bee under my bonnet of all that blatant virtue-signalling with the cycle lanes. At the time it seemed to be the only thing the authorities were doing to "improve" the place, and this warped sense of priorities for me was the final straw.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119760041#Comment_119760041

Actually having public urinals in Dublin would be brilliant.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119760549#Comment_119760549

We had them, antisocial behaviour put an end to them then and they would be ten times worse now

Tonesjones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119759604#Comment_119759604

You can give out about people doing such things even if they are foreign. Don't worry nobody will think you are racist.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119760389#Comment_119760389

Putting bikes before cars and pedestrians is anything but a warped sense of priorities. It's international best practice.

Anyway there's f**k all bike lanes in Dublin, it's still an almost completely car dominated environment. Hopefully in the coming years there are less and less cars in the city centre and it'll become a much more pleasant place to be.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119760969#Comment_119760969

Putting bikes before pedestrians genius idea

You want to kill a street cyclists are great way to start. Along with buses

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119760982#Comment_119760982

Meant to say peds and bikes before cars. I suppose you hate cyclists and bike lanes and pedestrianisation too. Let me guess, you think pedestrianisation leads to antisocial behaviour and you'll be too terrified to go there? <Mod Snip>

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119760921#Comment_119760921

I did. I said spitting was disgusting. Pissing in the street is disgusting too.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119760872#Comment_119760872

The behaviour that caused Dublin’s public toilets to be closed wasn’t anti social at all. It was a little too social.

The type of urinals I see all over Europe would be great in Dublin

Dyr

Pedestrianisation is great in certain areas, so long as there's enforcement to keep cyclists out, which there isn't in Dublin. You're very abusive, I'd say you're from a nice middle class area though.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119761018#Comment_119761018

I suppose we can add public sex acts to pissing and spitting when it comes to activities that you are happy enough to see in our capital. There's a lot of old fashioned bigots who disagree amazingly

The type of urinals you see all over Europe would be a disaster in Dublin, unless we started rousting and locking up undesirables who engage in anti social behaviour. Something you'd be against no doubt, another hallmark of a fine, vibrant city

PommieBast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119760969#Comment_119760969

What they should have done along the quays was make a proper continious bus lane. For bus users what they actually did makes things worse, and I bet far more people use the bus than cycle to work on that route.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119761077#Comment_119761077

oh yes of course anyone who cycles is a D4 luvvie

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119761077#Comment_119761077

It’s weird. I already said today that pissing and spitting on the streets is disgusting, that’s very far from an endorsement. I would equally object to sex in public toilets. Can I be any clearer about that.

What do you think would happen to the urinals? They’re big lumps of plastic with 4 urinals. What could people possibly do to them? I find it very strange that you’re anti pissing on the street and anti urinal, surely urinals are a practical solution.

dbas

When I lived in Dublin there was too many homeless shelters/ methadone clinics in the city centre. Kicked out of the shelter around 9am and walking the streets looking for trouble or gear until they go back into the centres.

decentralizing these essential public services throughout the capital and doubling down on Garda public order units and building a new prison would go a long way into fixing our city.

I love Dublin, but it is a dump

corner of hells

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119761340#Comment_119761340

There are very few shelters that ask homeless to leave at 9am , most are 24hr.

Moving a methadone clinic is a huge task , if anything clinics are closing .

A large drug treatment centre like Pearse St. employs a multitude of staff from doctors , nurses , counsellors , social workers etc , where would you move them to ?