Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2022 - No PM requests - See Mod note post #1

fits

Anything know about the systems the energia installers use? The panels are 550w each.

deezell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121145703#Comment_121145703

Jinko, Akome, Sunergy, others maybe. Huge panels, 1.1 by 2.2 m, almost 30kg. Thats close to the size of 4' by 8' flooring sheets in terms of handling. Two man job. I've no idea if they're more structurally prone to cracking or damage that smaller sizes, they'd surely need a mid rail for support. When you're paying so much for the installs, I assume that the individual and string outputs voltages are measured and confirmed before connection. You could have a duff partially bypassed panel or two in a system from new and never even know.

Citizenpain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121141747#Comment_121141747

We put inverter and battery in eaves and when the were screwing on the fire board they did cause some cracks in converted attic wall where the plasterboard screws were . It didn’t bother me as we were getting the whole place redone anyway

pron

Stupid question of the day :)

I see so many quotes with / without BER - is BER not a requirement of getting the grant, thus quotes "without" are kinda pointless? Or am I missing something obvious?

Eleusis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121146473#Comment_121146473

Some people may not need a BER because they got one recently anyway. Then I would hope/presume the price to update it is minimal.

graememk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121146473#Comment_121146473

Without Ber means that you have to sort/pay for the ber separately

HotSwap

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121146493#Comment_121146493

No matter how recently you got the BER you need another one post works if you want the grant.

Eleusis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121146827#Comment_121146827

Yes, but it isn't a whole new one. It's simple, fast and cheap to add the solar panels to the existing BER. At least it should be. I had a BER done last year when I was getting a heat pump and part of it tells what my BER would be upgraded to if I added solar panels. So if I add solar panels it should not cost much to update when I get them. At least I hope not.

tonysopprano

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121147217#Comment_121147217

Ha, ha ,ha. I love your naïveté

deezell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121147254#Comment_121147254

Best you can hope for is contact the exact same surveyor and ask him to 'upgrade' your cert by the solar output. How much is BER when solar is the reason, does it magically increase in price as a result? We paid €190 for BER to sell an 80's bungalow in 2021 as administrators of a will. Seemed very reasonable at the time.

HotSwap

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121147217#Comment_121147217

Anyone getting a BER should always request the full “dwelling report” from the assessor. That way you can plug the numbers into the DEAP (same tool the assessor uses) and figure out yourself what impact any changes will have on your home.

At this point I’ve lost all faith in the BER system. I didn’t get the PV grant cos I was going to get ripped off; so did them myself.

They changed the system so that the homeowner now has to take full responsibility and risk for applying and processing grant applications; no risk to the contractor as they must be paid in full in advance. If they do a shoddy job; it’s the homeowner that’s out of pocket.

I was close to starting an external insulation project; but Im now taking a totally different approach; I’m going to spend smaller chunks of cash on much more targeted projects; with no regard for BER; and my house will be lovely and well insulated and airtight. Couldn’t care less what the BER is.

Eleusis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121147463#Comment_121147463

I'm also not going to get PV grant either and go self install off-grid with grid backup. I'm going for a 24kw PV array with 43kw battery and it's gonna cost approx 14k. It was fun putting that into davidhunt.

And likewise last year the rip off nature of the renewable industry just led me to ignore grants and do the external insulation myself. The heat pump grant still viable though.

Crazy even with vat removal that all quotes here are nowhere near the davidhunt ballpark and just seem to be getting higher and higher, even though the cost of batteries and solar panels are dropping fast. I'd urge any young fella now thinking of an apprenticeship to skip it and go straight into it renewables and clean up for a few years

ccull123

Im about to pull the trigger on a PV system but im wondering is this a wise decision with the budget coming up. Would I be better to hold off a few weeks to see if there are any pv packages announced?

DC999

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121154180#Comment_121154180

Pull the trigger I'd suggest. Budget changes are over the next 12 months so have a leadtime for certain stuff. It's already 0% vat and there are grants. Even if the grant did increase (and I've no reason to believe that change would come), you'll still get it as SEAI pay it post install.

Heading into winter demand for PV is going to skyrocket. So get your quotes, agree the price and contract and you're in the queue

kay0ss

South facing roof, 20 degree pitch, located in West Kerry. 8.1kWp South Facing = Approximately 7,900 kWhs self-generated per year

20 x SunPower P6 405W panels, including a 5Kw Huawei Hybrid inverter and all fittings: €14905

• BER certification: €395 

• Eddi Hot Water Diverter: €790

• 5Kw Hauwei Luna Battery: €4850

• Zappi EV Charger: €1630

• Hauwei Optimizers (€80PP): €1600

Total Price: €24,170 (without SEAI grant) 

kabakuyu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121163858#Comment_121163858

Robbery, get more prices.Why would you need 20 optimisers?

HappySolar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121163858#Comment_121163858

Have you a lot of shade/trees close to your home to need all them optimizers?

I repeat what the last poster said - ya need to get more quotes.

Even taking off the optimizers & BER that's expensive.

idc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121164788#Comment_121164788

Has been reported before with Huawei  to support larger kWp and number of panels the inverter requires its own brand of optimisers to be installed on every panel. Sure there are posts reporting where max might 15/16 panels of approx 400W but to get to 20 they need the optimisers. Not so different from SolarEdge which requires optimisers for every panel.

Price is still crazy!

Seventy Plus

KN Group

I hope I am not breaking any rules.

I paid a deposit and am now told that the Site Survey and installation will be done by KN Group.

Cannot find any reference to them and solar panels and am not happy

deezell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121165211#Comment_121165211

Which one are you then, Grumpy? Sleepy? Anyway, KN are a large electrical/coms engineering contractors. They would have plenty of qualified and over qualified staff trained to install just about anything with wires coming out of them. It's not like solar is rocket science. You can complete the course for the grunt work in a few weeks, any sparks can come along after and pop in the cable's and breakers, and it's really basic electrician stuff. If the inverter needs configuration it's all in the installer manual, and like any config, do it a few times, do it in your sleep after. Same goes for adding batteries. They'd be far more capable than the man in a van operators with a sparks on a retainer.

con747

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121165301#Comment_121165301

Hardly any need for that response.

deezell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121165490#Comment_121165490

Jeez, has nobody got a sense of humour anymore? I'm not 'Happy' as in Snow White et al. You'll be as safe as houses with KN, They'll be calling you 'shortly' I'm sure.🧙‍♂️

Breezy_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121165742#Comment_121165742

lol, it took me a min even with the explanation.

NinjaTruncs

Has anyone gotten a recent quote from the boys in Enniskillen? What is their lead time like at the moment.

deezell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121166003#Comment_121166003

The most famous use of this quip was by Nigel Owens, distinguished rugby referee, who was being harassed for a decision by the diminutive Munster scrum half Peter Stringer. " I'm not Happy, Nigel" sez Strings. "Well which one are you?" Sez Nigel . Ouch.

Breezy_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121166033#Comment_121166033

Has anyone got a quote that isin't within a tenner of every other quote is a better question. They're all the same now.

Ints

I got it over a month ago, lead time mid November.

con747

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121165742#Comment_121165742

I would take it by the posters name they are elderly, maybe I'm way off the mark but it still looks like you were not really being nice with you're opening comment. "Which one are you then, Grumpy? Sleepy?"

deezell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121166672#Comment_121166672

I've been around the block alright. Well deduced. Sorry about the choice of alternative Snow White personnel. They were the only other ones I could remember. I'll have to Google the Grimm brothers, or Walt Disney.

tonysopprano

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121166672#Comment_121166672

So being elderly can circumvent forum rules, and can name companies and suppliers. Good to know for future posts.

I'm not happy and subesquent replies, on whatever fora, a well established criteria and counter (tongue in cheek)