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Will you be taking a booster?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,856 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Two was and is a game changer.... a third ? Ok, if that is better again, I just have to drive 15 minutes tomorrow, show up, que up, show my arm, get jabbed, wait, go home....



  • Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The consequence of infecting those with a compromised immune system is quite probably death. You are totally irresponsible. Children generally have strong immune systems so the Children are the last ones i'm thinking of.

    You have shown a complete lack of understanding of how the immune system works so please step back and consider how you appear to others reading through the thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,340 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Got my booster yesterday, 5 months and 3 days after second dose. Moderna, no side effects whatsoever



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,432 ✭✭✭bladespin


    And still you can’t show any post I’ve made that’s against vaccination or the booster despite accusing me of such (hint: at no stage have I posted an anti vaccination comment, I firmly believe in the science), I’m very aware of how the immune system works, I simply said you cannot know for sure how you will react to either virus or vaccine, specifically a person who has already been vaccinated, your knowledge seems to centre around junior Cert biology so suggest you should step back before posting accusations like that.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 493 ✭✭sliabh 1956


    Myself and Mrs Sliabh just got ours at our local GP here in Clare fantastic effort by the Medical team to facilitate all who showed up. Much better than what I witnessed yesterday at the walk in Clinic in Ennis yesterday morning.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Correct. And the same goes for vaccines and it is actually painfully obvious when you do compare how effective is flu vaccination. Pretty much a yearly guess game. We already know that sars viruses mutate much faster. Even Moderna CEO is skeptical that their vaccine will hold against current mutation (which so far looks to be weaker than previous strains).

    If you think you need vaccine then by all means go ahead and take one. We seems to have plenty to go around. However if you are under 60, relatively healthy and not obese there is no need to have vaccine 3x every two years (or more often).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭323


    Why bother, most of the lowest vaccination countries also have the lowest covid deaths, Africa, with 17.46% of World’s Population, Only 3% of World’s COVID Deaths. Science is still out on that one.

    “Follow the trend lines, not the headlines,”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,450 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    SARS-COV2 has been more stable than influenza (thus far at least), even Omicron isn't able to escape vaccines (based on preliminary data). The reason boosters are needed seems to be more down to human physiology and how we drop coronavirus antibodies than mutations in the virus.



  • Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've never got the flu shot for my benefit. I've got it yearly for the benefit of those more vulnerable around me.



  • Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Your a tin pot making noise. An irresponsible tin pot but a tin pot nevertheless...and you haven't the humility to admit your ignorance.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    I am sorry but I do have hard time to believe that statement. Simply because it was always marketed as protecting yourself. Only covid changed this since vaccines cant protect you from contracting illness but offer some hypothetical chance of having it milder when you get it. Then someone clever invented "protecting others" and quite a lot of people seized on this as that helped them mask their own fears behind some fake altruism.

    This protecting others argument is just empty soundbite as actually opposite happened - vaccinated people are more prone to be less careful while going around their routine and that is why we do have more and more cases despite one of the highest vaccination rates.



  • Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    When you have a parent of advanced years suffering with a particularly heavy flu then you'll understand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Are you offered a choice of which vaccine you get for the booster? Or is it take it or leave it?



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 13,381 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    If I need to get one to be able to travel then I'll get one.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,855 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Nothing happened to it, so long as your choice impacts only you and has no negative impact on the rest of society as a whole. That is how it has always been. Your rights are no more important than the rest of society and expecting to be able to impose your lifestyle choices on the rest of the community is just not going to be tolerated, it never was.

    From what I read on discussions in other countries, in addition to the requirement to have a vaccination certificate, you can expect to see health and travel insurance excluding claims relating to covid for clients who have not been vaccinated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭corkie


    You can get Moderna from HSE in MVC.

    Or choose to wait till after Xmas and hopefully get Pfizar from a pharmacy.

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Is that still the case even if you got the J & J originally?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭corkie


    I also got the Janssen in June, going to the City Hall, tomorrow for my booster.

    Don't think Janssen is been offered anymore in Ireland?


    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My first dose was Janssen therefore due to my age my booster was full dose Moderna.



  • Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Good News

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,427 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Is that the policy? First dose J&J get a full dose Moderna as a booster? Do they purposely give J&J a full Moderna booster (which on the surface seems the best option for maximum protection)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Shao Kahn


    We also seem to be ignoring other data too.

    Like for example, the office for national statistics in the UK has released their data on all cause mortality rates. They seem to be showing that vaccinated English adults under 60, are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age group. Similar data has been coming out in the US recently as well.

    Yes, I know - Lies, damned lies, and statistics right? I'm not someone who likes to rely on raw datasets to draw big sweeping conclusions.

    However, while this itself does not automatically attribute causality to the vaccination status as the key factor. When combined with other recent revelations, it does give some pause for consideration. And should certainly be worthy of greater discussion, which is why it's concerning to me that statistics like this are being buried and ignored by mainstream media.

    Like why did Pfizer decide to bury and seal the test data reporting on adverse reactions to their vaccine for the next 55 years? Early data was showing significant adverse "events". Including some 25,000 events classified as "nervous system disorders".

    Why the lack of transparency? It's not helpful when trying to convince skeptical members of the public to trust your advice.

    "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives, and it puts itself into our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." (John Wayne)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭notAMember


    Link the evidence about vaccinated Uk dying at double the rate please. The timeframe is important. If it’s at the start of the vaccination rollout, then the vaccinated population were those with chronic diseases.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭agoodpunt


    If the booster wouldnt stop you from getting omicron would they tell us? only show in town, not sure i belive anymore

    Vacs have being well below expectation imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,432 ✭✭✭bladespin


    I know, even here there are already workplaces looking for it, I don’t mind but it’s slightly concerning all the same.

    Correct that you rights aren’t affected, it was more of a comment on the righteous who campaigned for choice but aren’t so in favour now, liking to having their toast buttered on both sides.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,432 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Ok, in an effort to clear the air, you left a step (an important one) out of the process, adaptation, it is the difference between the processes, they are different, if anything it’s your assertion that they’re the same that undermines vaccination.


    Also, I’m not the one making the false accusations here.


    Best of luck and stay safe.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    No it hasn't. Irish society has one of the best uptakes of vaccination in the world per capita. If anything it's showed completely the opposite of what you claim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Spiderman0081


    In Germany, it was discovered that 
    seven Germans had been infected with omicron in South Africa, despite 
    receiving three doses of vaccine, 
    which surprised researchers.
    
    But in Denmark, far more people have been infected by the omicron variant, despite being vaccinated three times.
    
    Of a total of 1280 reported cases of the variant in Denmark, 956 people 
    were double-vaccinated and 114 people had received three doses of vaccine, 
    according to a report published by 
    the Danish National Serum Institute 
    on Friday evening.
    




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Panrich



    Considering that 3 out of 4 adults are vaccinated, they should be dying at a rate of 3:1, all things being equal.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭whiz


    When will people in their 30s and 40s get their booster?

    Any response appreciated



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