Vaccine Megathread No 2 - Read OP before posting

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Thousands of posts and I am still waiting for vaccine... just get it out there!

Apogee

Lumen wrote:

3.9m is what I read, but Donnelly is saying 1.6m=43% which would make 100% 3.7m and 80% 3m.

3m-1.6m=1.4m first doses to hit 80%. 40 days = 35k/day, 245k first doses/week.

It ought to be possible, but I don't know how many second doses are due in that period.

I get 3.9M too, especially if we are including over 16s, based on CSO numbers. But Government numbers seem to be based on 3.7M.

Government also quoted 55-60% on second dose by end of June.

Happydays2020

Folks,

Any idea which vaccine (if any) works against the Indian variant? What is the efficacy? How worried should we be?

astrofool

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Folks,

Any idea which vaccine (if any) works against the Indian variant? What is the efficacy? How worried should we be?

It looks like Pfizer is about 75% efficacious:
https://www.breakingnews.ie/covid-vaccine/update-1-biontech-ceo-says-vaccine-up-to-75-effective-against-india-variant-1130335.html

Other vaccines will probably be similar. The panic is really about getting the vaccine hesitant motivated to get vaccinated (but the UK press has spilled over to Ireland).

Beasty

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Folks,

Any idea which vaccine (if any) works against the Indian variant? What is the efficacy? How worried should we be?

They all work against it, but may not be as effective. More may get it and symptoms may be worse, but still a massive improvement on no vaccine protection

thejuggler

My other half registered via the portal during the week. Can you sign in to check your appointment status?
Is there a separate portal URL for this?

Ha Long Bay

thejuggler wrote: »

My other half registered via the portal during the week. Can you sign in to check your appointment status?
Is there a separate portal URL for this?

https://vaccine3.hse.ie/s/login/

astrofool

astrofool wrote: »

It looks like Pfizer is about 75% efficacious:
https://www.breakingnews.ie/covid-vaccine/update-1-biontech-ceo-says-vaccine-up-to-75-effective-against-india-variant-1130335.html

Other vaccines will probably be similar. The panic is really about getting the vaccine hesitant motivated to get vaccinated (but the UK press has spilled over to Ireland).

That article is inaccurate and seems to be based on a mistranslation of what the BioNTech chief said (fact checking, what's that?) . He was speaking of the cuff and gave a rough number. He did not say "up to".

75% is the efficacy shown against B.1.351. B.1.617.2 doesn't show the same loss in neutralization so is likely to have a much lower drop in efficacy.

https://twitter.com/mugecevik/status/1395795155706335234?s=19

Goldengirl

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

My wife just got a text to get dose 2 of AZ at a vaccination centre. She got the first dose through work and was told it would be the same for the 2nd. Text looks legit and I assume there was just a change of plan but just wanted to check if anyone else has had similar?

Is it too late for her to check through work?
Probably just down to supplies.
They have said that vaccination and contact tracing has not been affected by the cyber attack if that is what you are concerned about?

dan786

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

My wife just got a text to get dose 2 of AZ at a vaccination centre. She got the first dose through work and was told it would be the same for the 2nd. Text looks legit and I assume there was just a change of plan but just wanted to check if anyone else has had similar?

Friend of mine got similar text for Citywest this eve although his first dose was elsewhere.

But his son was playing with his phone and "New" came up in auto suggest and he sent it.

Now he is unsure as to when he will get a new appointment.

Does anyone know how long it takes to get a second appointment if you reply "New" to the text message to reschedule?

Lumen

Kalyke wrote:

What cohorts are getting the Johnson and Johnson vaccine at the moment?

Strazdas wrote:

In theory, it can be freely given to anyone over the age of 50 but supplies have been a bit limited so far.

On the HSE site about vaccinating HCWs, I found:

Chapter 5a - COVID-19 (updated 29th April 2021)
https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/immunisation/hcpinfo/guidelines/covid19.pdf

HSE wrote:

Licensed indications

Active immunisation to prevent COVID-19 caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus, in individuals 18 years of age and older.

Precautions
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As alternative vaccines are available, mRNA vaccines are recommended for those aged under 50 years including those with medical conditions with very high or high risk of severe COVID-19 disease.

In circumstances where a two-dose mRNA vaccination schedule is not a feasible alternative, COVID-19 vaccine Janssen® can be considered for those aged 18 – 49 years.

This wording is much more positive than I've read about recently.

It's saying Janssen is both licensed for and can be considered for anyone over 18 if mRNA vaccination is not feasible.

This seems to differ from the NIAC advice for the public rollout which is to unlock it decade by decade almost as a last resort.

Why is NIAC recommending one thing for the general public and the HSE recommending another for HCW?

Have I missed something? Admittedly that HSE doc is a month old, but it is the latest.

branie2

The vaccine I got was the Pfizer

Lumen

Lumen wrote: »

On the HSE site about vaccinating HCWs, I found:

Chapter 5a - COVID-19 (updated 29th April 2021)
https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/immunisation/hcpinfo/guidelines/covid19.pdf

This wording is much more positive than I've read about recently.

It's saying Janssen is both licensed for and can be considered for anyone over 18 if mRNA vaccination is not feasible.

This seems to differ from the NIAC advice for the public rollout which is to unlock it decade by decade almost as a last resort.

Why is NIAC recommending one thing for the general public and the HSE recommending another for HCW?

Have I missed something? Admittedly that HSE doc is a month old, but it is the latest.

I think that has been the NIAC position since their initial advice. This allows J&J to be used for hard to reach communities, etc.

The HSE then requested advice on how they could use J&J going forward, and it was reiterated that it could be offered if an mRNA was not available. The only new part of the advice was that people under 50 could opt to wait for an mRNA vaccine if they prefer.

Micky 32

Is scally itching for permanent lockdowns/restrictions or wants to shut us from the outside world foreva?? It’s getting very tiring and exhausting now… Even if it’s 75% that is great protection. Does he ever shut up?

https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1395782106991808522?s=21

Happydays2020

Micky 32 wrote: »

Is scally itching for permanent lockdowns/restrictions or wants to shut us from the outside world foreva?? It’s getting very tiring and exhausting now… Even if it’s 75% that is great protection. Does he ever shut up?

https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1395782106991808522?s=21

What worries me most about these so called experts is that they look for the story which supports their argument and react to comments not evidence. That is fine for the academics who are working to some kind of odd political agenda but it should not be the case for active medical practitioners.

duffman13

This time last year the same scientists and doctors were saying a vaccine with anything around 60% efficacy would be amazing and a game changer.

Talking now about a vaccine that's 75% effective at stopping symptomatic cases like it's the end of world. I think there is a few in the scientific community that the attention and fame has gone to their head tbh.

revelman

45 year olds are being invited to register tomorrow. Has there been any talk about when 40-45 will be invited? I thought it would follow directly on Monday but they have been very quiet about this.

1wizards sleeve

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Folks,

Any idea which vaccine (if any) works against the Indian variant? What is the efficacy? How worried should we be?

Covaxin made in india by bharat biotech, And v close to getting EUA in the USA through a second company called ocgn seems to be getting the best results for all variants its an old fashioned vaccine using dead cells. Im not expert on that kind of stuff. It could well be produced in the usa and distributed to various countries and possible as a booster shot going forward. Bharat biotech is a major vaccine maker if not one of the biggest in the world. They will produce in india for there own needs

allym

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

My wife just got a text to get dose 2 of AZ at a vaccination centre. She got the first dose through work and was told it would be the same for the 2nd. Text looks legit and I assume there was just a change of plan but just wanted to check if anyone else has had similar?

I’m the same, I’m assuming it’s to do with them reducing the gap from 16 weeks back to 12 so they’re trying to fit everyone in now asap. I originally got mine through one of the hospitals as well.

is_that_so

1wizards sleeve wrote: »

Covaxin made in india by bharat biotech, And v close to getting EUA in the USA through a second company called ocgn seems to be getting the best results for all variants its an old fashioned vaccine using dead cells. Im not expert on that kind of stuff. It could well be produced in the usa and distributed to various countries and possible as a booster shot going forward. Bharat biotech is a major vaccine maker if not one of the biggest in the world. They will produce in india for there own needs

Very unlikely to be used in the US now, even with approval. They have more than enough other ones.

Lucas Hood

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1396032519536005120?s=19

archfi

dan786 wrote: »

Friend of mine got similar text for Citywest this eve although his first dose was elsewhere.

But his son was playing with his phone and "New" came up in auto suggest and he sent it.

Now he is unsure as to when he will get a new appointment.

Does anyone know how long it takes to get a second appointment if you reply "New" to the text message to reschedule?

I had to text 'New' on my original 1st appt for Tuesday last.

I texted 'New' late Monday evening and had new appointment texted to me on Wednesday for Friday just gone - Citywest
By the way, Citywest is very, very efficient on the day itself.

Sleeper12

dan786 wrote:

Does anyone know how long it takes to get a second appointment if you reply "New" to the text message to reschedule?

I've cancelled 3 appointment for the the Hilex and I've gotten another the next day. So my appointment so far was yesterday, today & Monday. I expect my next offer will be Tuesday. Having said all that some posters on the vaccine appointment thread have been waiting a week for new appointment. It really depends on the centre you must attend

1wizards sleeve

is_that_so wrote: »

Very unlikely to be used in the US now, even with approval. They have more than enough other ones.

Getting used in the usa and getting eua are different things i suppose. They will possibly produce for brazil the Philippines and various other countries from the usa. And leave bharat biotech to look after there share in India. They are very close to eua.

revelman

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I've cancelled 3 appointment for the the Hilex and I've gotten another the next day. So my appointment so far was yesterday, today & Monday. I expect my next offer will be Tuesday. Having said all that some posters on the vaccine appointment thread have been waiting a week for new appointment. It really depends on the centre you must attend

Do you keep cancelling because you are being offered vaccines you don’t want?

Sleeper12

Lumen wrote:

It's saying Janssen is both licensed for and can be considered for anyone over 18 if mRNA vaccination is not feasible.

They have no plans to use J&J for under 50s. The HSE site is a bit misleading. The large delivery of J&J never arrived & no details on June delivery. The current stock of J&J won't last long.

Sleeper12

revelman wrote:

Do you keep cancelling because you are being offered vaccines you don’t want?

The centres have different vacancies every week or so. For the last two weeks it was almost entirely pfizer. In my centre they started using J&J and I expect this to continue for the next week or so. Till stocks run out

I rang the helpline asking how do I go to the bottom of the list as I wasn't taking AZ or J&J. They told me that there was no bottom of the list & to keep cancelling until something different is offered. The agent told me that they had a lot refuse AZ a while back and eventually they received an alternative. He said that things quietened down until the J&J was offered this week and they were flooded with calls like mine

I am in no hurry for the vaccine. I'm happy to wait months for a safer vaccine that doesn't cause blood clots. It does look like I will have a vaccine in weeks rather than days though.

dashoonage

Lads , sister 51 just got Pfizer there, she was told 3 months to next dose and given an appointment date for august ? That's not right is it ? I thought it was 4 weeks ?

revelman

dashoonage wrote: »

Lads , sister 51 just got Pfizer there, she was told 3 months to next dose and given an appointment date for august ? That's not right is it ? I thought it was 4 weeks ?

She must have got AZ, not Pfizer.

eoinbn

dashoonage wrote: »

Lads , sister 51 just got Pfizer there, she was told 3 months to next dose and given an appointment date for august ? That's not right is it ? I thought it was 4 weeks ?

It is 4 weeks. There is a mixup somewhere. She either got AZ or the wrong date for her second vaccine.

dashoonage

revelman wrote: »

She must have got AZ, not Pfizer.

Nope 100% Pfizer , has the card and all

Anyone else through limerick get the same today ?

I told her check the portal later and then ring them

km79

revelman wrote: »

45 year olds are being invited to register tomorrow. Has there been any talk about when 40-45 will be invited? I thought it would follow directly on Monday but they have been very quiet about this.

I’d say it could be end of next week now tbh

Micky 32

dashoonage wrote: »

Nope 100% Pfizer , has the card and all

Anyone else through limerick get the same today ?

I told her check the portal later and then ring them

Interestingly i had the pfizer but didn’t get a date for the second. My card just has the date i got jabbed on it. I did mention it to someone and was told i’d get another text when due.

titan18

Micky 32 wrote: »

Interestingly i had the pfizer but didn’t get a date for the second. My card just has the date i got jabbed on it. I did mention it to someone and was told i’d get another text when due.

Ya, I got that too. Got first dose today (through GP referral for cohort 7) and was told GP would contact me on the second dose.

As far as I know they're moving to a new referral system so hoping that doesn't hold up getting the second dose.

Van.Bosch

km79 wrote: »

I’d say it could be end of next week now tbh

Yeah, I’d say muddle if next week, maybe announced Monday.

dan786

archfi wrote: »

I had to text 'New' on my original 1st appt for Tuesday last.

I texted 'New' late Monday evening and had new appointment texted to me on Wednesday for Friday just gone - Citywest
By the way, Citywest is very, very efficient on the day itself.

Good to know that they are quick. My friend is due for his second AZ dose and wants to get it asap so hopefully will get another appointment in next few days.

xboxdad

revelman wrote: »

45 year olds are being invited to register tomorrow. Has there been any talk about when 40-45 will be invited? I thought it would follow directly on Monday but they have been very quiet about this.

BTW, do I need to be 45 already, or it's OK if I turn 45 in 2 months?
Not sure if they check the date or birth or just the year of birth.

km79

xboxdad wrote: »

BTW, do I need to be 45 already, or it's OK if I turn 45 in 2 months?
Not sure if they check the date or birth or just the year of birth.

Year to register so you are in luck
1976 is the cut off

josip

When Tony says that NPHET are 'genuinely concerned' about the Indian variant, does that mean that when they were simply 'concerned' before now, that it wasn't genuine?

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0521/1223091-covid-figures-update/

eoinbn

https://twitter.com/jorisvaesen/status/1396072474673090565?s=19

Google translate
"As of July, Moderna will be delivering 100,000 doses per week and it is likely that Pfizer's weekly deliveries will also increase in July. No clarity yet about the batch from J&J that is undergoing a quality control (already 2 to 3 weeks) by the FDA in collaboration with the EMA"

Small increase in Moderna in July - 43k for us. He expects an increase in Pfizer in July but doesn't know how much. I would take that with a pinch of salt as his current figures for Pfizer aren't correct, at least for Ireland.

AZ delivery was light. 65k vs the projected 85k. That is 28k Vs 37k for us.

JPup

dan786 wrote: »

Good to know that they are quick. My friend is due for his second AZ dose and wants to get it asap so hopefully will get another appointment in next few days.

If he was to show up at citywest and explain the situation it’s unlikely he’d be turned away.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

The in-the-know Belgians are at it again. Biggest J&J delivery so far expected next week. 84,000 for Belgium would be about 36,000 for Ireland.

Record number of vaccines expected next week: largest delivery of Johnson & Johnson to date

Next week, our country expects a record number of vaccines. This is partly due to the largest delivery from Johnson & Johnson to date. 84,000 doses of that vaccine would be delivered, the FPS Public Health said on Twitter this morning.

To date, 142,800 doses of Johnson & Johnson's vaccine have been delivered: 36,000 in the week of April 12, 30,000 in the week of April 26, 36,000 in the week of May 10, and 40,800 in the week of May 17. The latter were delivered yesterday. It is not yet clear about the further deliveries, the spokesman for Janssen Pharmaceutica - the Belgian subsidiary of the American pharmaceutical giant - told HLN yesterday . However, 1.4 million vaccines are expected from Johnson & Johnson throughout the second quarter (April - June).

This has to do with the problems Johnson & Johnson had to deal with a few weeks ago in a factory in the United States. Components of the vaccine then became mixed with those of the AstraZeneca vaccine, which is also produced there. Due to extra quality controls, production has now come to a standstill and no vaccines are released, not even for export. Europe now only receives a limited number of vaccines from the Johnson & Johnson factory in the Netherlands.

Record
Due to the extra delivery next week, the number of expected vaccines in the week of May 24 will increase to 898,670. Never before have there been so many in a week. Earlier it was announced that Pfizer would deliver 363,870 doses next week, Moderna 76,800 and AstraZeneca 374,000. The previous record dates from the week of April 26, when 865,830 doses were delivered


Unlike other vaccines already approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) for emergency use, only one injection of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is required. That gives it an advantage over that of Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca. A slow delivery could jeopardize the goal of the Flemish government to give every adult who wishes at least a first injection by 11 July.

Dip
When it comes to the administration of vaccines, a dip is expected again next week. In Flanders, after the current record week, 'only' around 350,000 corona vaccines would be put in. It would be a temporary dip in the vaccination campaign, which should then fully reach cruising speed.

https://www.hln.be/binnenland/volgende-week-recordaantal-vaccins-verwacht-grootste-levering-johnson-en-johnson-tot-nu-toe~a393d90e/?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2F

Wolf359f

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

The in-the-know Belgians are at it again. Biggest J&J delivery so far expected next week. 84,000 for Belgium would be about 36,000 for Ireland.

That would put our total delivery of J&J at 97,524.
Going by the vaccine appointment thread, they certainly appear to be getting through J&J!

God I miss the daily updates on the vaccine rollout.:mad:

Tim Robbins

Vaccinated this morning. Cohort 7. Got a PFO from my own GP who said they were doing no-one after cohort 4. Got a bit of luck in that there was another GP I went to just once in the Summer for the same condition and he very kindly rang me and invited me in, as I was on his books. The GP who runs the clinic was working today and had one nurse also there. Both vaccinating lots of people and in fairness they seem like a very well run clinic.

Also, I contacted my consultant, whose secretary said they would also arrange a vaccination for me if something fell through.

My advise to anyone having difficulty in cohort 7 because their own GP let them down, if you have a consultant ring them first. Otherwise ring other GP practices. Or hold out for HSE to get you on your age base.

My advise to government. Get everyone online and administer by the cohorts better when we need booster shots in the winter or next year. People could self declare what cohort they and this could be randomly checked by a phone call to their GP.

My own GP did say they would forward my details onto HSE but I heard nothing via this channel.

ClosedAccountFuzzy

Any idea when the next age range opens? I’m just noticing articles about the underwhelming deliveries of J&J, so I’m assuming we’re looking at momentum slowing down?

Frankmcll102

Got my first dose of Pfizer here in London (thrilled ). Second dose appointment is in 12 weeks. I'm moving back to Ireland over the summer. Does anyone know if I can get my second dose back home (once I'm eligible there)? I can travel back here for it if needs be, but would prefer not to. Though I'm wondering if it would cause a major headache being on two vax systems and not fully vaccinated on either?

ClosedAccountFuzzy

Just curious, I’m in my 30s and have a history of “essential hypertension” (high blood pressure without an explanation.) So I’ve been on medication for it since my 20s (an Angiotensin II Receptor Blocker (ARB)

Should I have been in a higher risk category? Or, is that regarded as fine as it’s managed?

I’ve just been waiting for my age range to be called for mass vaccination centre. So I’m guessing July sometime.

Probes

km79 wrote: »

Year to register so you are in luck
1976 is the cut off

Where did you read that?

JPup

FuzzyThinking wrote: »

Just curious, I’m in my 30s and have a history of “essential hypertension” (high blood pressure without an explanation.) So I’ve been on medication for it since my 20s (an Angiotensin II Receptor Blocker (ARB)

Should I have been in a higher risk category? Or, is that regarded as fine as it’s managed?

I’ve just been waiting for my age range to be called for mass vaccination centre. So I’m guessing July sometime.

Could be June if you’re closer to 40 than 30.

Sleeper12

Frankmcll102 wrote:

Got my first dose of Pfizer here in London (thrilled ). Second dose appointment is in 12 weeks. I'm moving back to Ireland over the summer. Does anyone know if I can get my second dose back home (once I'm eligible there)? I can travel back here for it if needs be, but would prefer not to. Though I'm wondering if it would cause a major headache being on two vax systems and not fully vaccinated on either?

Wow 12 weeks? Are you sure you didn't get AZ?

Pfizer is 4 weeks between jabs here in Ireland