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Nightclubs and Gigs..

  • 19-10-2021 9:52pm
    Registered Users Posts: 5,983 ✭✭✭ sporina

    So from what I understand, standing at gigs is a no no.. but dancing in a nightclub is ok.. or am I wrong??



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,920 ✭✭✭ MrMusician18

    Of the various different industries that have been closed for the pandemic, niteclubs have really had it the worst - with no relaxation at all in the past year and a half. But when you compare the public clamour for pubs, restaurants, cinemas, gyms and live events to come back open, that's has been practically nothing about niteclubs. The only ones advocating for their return is themselves and the general public appears quite disinterested tbh.

    The tide was turning against clubs before covid with dating apps and late bars filling the market that they had once cornered. While I'm no longer in the target market for these places, no one I know ever really liked them - they were just a place to meet people and continue drinking into the night and we only went there because "everyone else" was there.

    So am I just another old fogey that's out of touch or has this sector been irreparably damaged by the virus?

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 61,764 Mod ✭✭✭✭ L1011

    They were practically dead in Dublin due to property speculation anyway. Basically every single suburban club had closed in the previous 20 years, and the city centre was reduced to a few effectively late bars with small dance floors masquerading as clubs.

    We might get something back if we get 4-6am closing.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭ hynesie08

    Yeah, Ireland's never really done nightclubs, coppers doesn't count.....

  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭ Housefree

    Surely it's harder getting the shift in a pub

  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ William Small Band-aid

    Mid nineties to very early 2000’s was pretty excellent. By about 2003 the best club nights in Galway were the same ones as those in 1996 which was kind of a signal it was dying

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  • Registered Users Posts: 583 ✭✭✭ crooked cockney villain

    True that, I doubt any suburban home in Dublin was more than 3 or 4 miles from a club before about 2010. Bondi in Stillorgan, Paparazzi in DL, Cocos in Clondalkin was it, Heaven in Blanch (whopper spot it was), Ice in Mulhuddart (believe it was called French's in the 90's), Vortex in Dunshaughlin (gets a mention as a lot of Blanch used to go there) ,Wright Venue in Swords, Blacker in Coolock, Jolly Topper in Finglas, was another spot in Leixlip village, possibly a club in Tallaght, Club 92 in Leopardstown, I'm nearly certain I was at a club in Fairyhouse once, there was the awful Barcode in Clontarf, virtually all of the above are now gone or are still there but not operating as a regular nightclub, yet they mostly were in operation through the first decade of the century. Small disco bars upstairs in local boozers seem to be entirely a thing of the past now, in Dublin at least.

    I may be wrong but I think the only suburban club left is that Club Diva place at the Red Cow.

    Of all the places I mentioned there, of the ones I attended, I never remember a dead night in most of them, they always seemed jammed, even Thursdays and Sundays would get a sizeable crowd, so I really don't know why most of them went under, was the insurance too much or what. I suppose the crash took a few of them down but some clubs opened and thrived during the crash (Wright Venue, Sin, Hangar are three that come to mind)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,808 ✭✭✭ CantGetNoSleep

    That you Tony?

  • Registered Users Posts: 6,210 ✭✭✭ growleaves

    Apart from Red Cow, there are suburban nightclubs in Sandyford, Tallaght and Swords. Unless restrictions have killed them?

    Until recently many posters were claiming pubs were on their last legs, people don't go to pubs etc.

    Plenty of night clubs were busy before March 2020 and could be again.

    "We have years of struggle ahead, mostly within ourselves" - Jean-Luc Godard

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,869 ✭✭✭✭ whisky_galore

    Property development, stupid puritan licencing hours and no doubt insurance/claims culture largely killed them off.

    The were never all that good outside of Dublin, cheap black painted plywood, a few mirrors, a bitta strip lighting and off you went.

  • Registered Users Posts: 18,973 ✭✭✭✭ yourdeadwright

    Night clubs died here in the early 00's ,

    Every local night club and night in Dublin City was out there door packed every Friday & Saturday nights,

    Sunday back then was like a Saturday now in terms of numbers out,

    On a bank Holiday all 3 nights where chaos ,now a bank holiday you get a smaller number spread out over the 3 nights and Dublin does be dead,

    Honestly i don't think we will ever see anything like the nightclub seen of the late 90's early 00's again in this country,

    The crash killed them & a lot of the generation headed off to Oz & Canada , It never seemed to fully recover,

    Probably for the better the youth of today are more interested in there health & no when to call it a night early on,

  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ William Small Band-aid

    It was never the decor that made a great club.

    And it was more likely the relaxation of the licencing hours for late pubs that contributed to their decline

  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 61,764 Mod ✭✭✭✭ L1011

    Sandyford - where? Burn in Stillorgan closed a decade ago

    All four in Tallaght are gone, pre-COVID. Abberley is emergency accommodation, Cocos is a Lidl, the one at The Square is now a gastropub with zero intent of ever reusing the dancefloor and the one in The Plaza has been shut for years.

    Sword - Wright Venue / Jampark is not reopening, and realistically not due to COVID either. Everything else is a late bar.

  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 61,764 Mod ✭✭✭✭ L1011

    Just realised you probably meant Club 92 which also closed well pre-COVID but not as long ago as Burn/Blakes. The second club at Leapordstown has been closed for a lot longer.

    And anyway, those three suburbs as the last standing yet all gone - plus Portmarnock which has Tomangos and the Red Cow as the two that remained in 2020 - are to be compared to when there were also notable/popular nightclubs in most/all of these at various times in the past 20 years

    • Clontarf
    • Howth (multiple)
    • Dun Laoghaire (multiple)
    • Mulhuddart
    • Ranelagh
    • Blanchardstown
    • Cabra
    • Stillorgan (multiple)
    • Cloghran
    • Dundrum
    • Balbriggan
    • Further out in Naas, Leixlip, Celbridge, Maynooth, Dunshauglin, Kill, Johnstownbridge all getting decent amounts of people bussing out to them

    As well as inner suburban hotels pretty much all having one - but outside the city centre.

  • Registered Users Posts: 583 ✭✭✭ crooked cockney villain

    Funnily enough I actually drew up a list just after the first lockdown of every club and disco bar I could think of in Dublin, using both my own knowledge and listings on things like the Nialler 9 site.

    Will be interesting post reopening....whenever that is, doubtful this winter the way these idiots are running see how many survived. I might stick her up around then.

    Really is amazing to think they are fully open in England and Wales now and that Scotland and N.I won't be more than a few weeks away, yet realistically it looks highly unlikely there will be any movement on it here before next April, if even then. It isn't about public safety, it is psychological warfare, seeing how far they can push people.

    That's what you get when you have ageing nerds like Harris in government.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭ ceadaoin.

    What was the one at the square? I can't remember. Also you forgot fables lol

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    No real difference between a proper pub and a night club really the last 10 years.

    Once you hit 28 night clubs are really a no go.

    Its the table service that sucks in the good pubs at the minute.

  • Registered Users Posts: 24,120 ✭✭✭✭ Mrs OBumble

    I'm sure the STD clinics are enjoying their reduced workload

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 61,764 Mod ✭✭✭✭ L1011


    Where was Fables? Well before my time I suspect.

    Raheny and Artane/Clonshaugh can be added to suburbs that had clubs going well back also come to think of it; plus Coolock more recently.

  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭ melekalikimaka

    There has been a bit of a transition from clubs to late bars, alot of places open til all hours playing banging rock and punk if you know where to look, suited me grand

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭ Dickie10

    its hard to know the situation. Some people on here that are kind of dancing on the graves of nightclubs i would recognise from my youth, they were the type who usually didnt enjoy dance music or cheesey euro pop etc, which i would have liked from 18-28. they were usually more into indie and rock and gigs , for some reaon i never got that type of music til i was around 27/28 and never really enjoyed gigs the same way i loved clubbing I never even took drugs just drank, danced and shifted and loved ever minute of it. really up until lockdown i would be out 48 weekends on average out of 52 and always had a decent sat night, like out from 9-3 am, the nighclub was replaced by late bar but I would always hit the nightclub with friends after a GAA game on a sunday maybe a couple f times a year, I find them great fun every so often really miss them, just happy times listening to cheese and having a few drinks.

    Now I never really went to really busy city nightclubs where you had trouble from doormen or had to que in so never had any of those negatives. I know among my friends in 00s that the local nightclub was treated the same as a local pub, you went in had a few pints and in and out to the smoking area and had a bit of a dance to a cheesy tune then maybe pull a bird along the way, it was a very relaxed experience. so I am thinking its a bit of a difference to some nightclubs in more city locations. But really is there much difference between say Flannerys or somewhere like that and a nightclub? I wouldnt say there is. I still find the right type of nightclub great fun, coppers is always fun. I find it not bad for door staff, drugs or any hassle , very relaxed. Am i right in saying coppers wouldnt be the typical nightclub experience most have had?

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭ hynesie08

    Coopers, Krystle, everleigh and the like would be closer to the traditional European "discobar", nothing particularly wrong with it, but it wouldn't be my style.

    A proper nightclub has it's own identity, and everything from the music to the clientele to the drugs just fits that identity. Dublin had a few places that fit that motif, but they never really lasted.

  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ William Small Band-aid

    Some excellent indie and rock club nights at various locations throughout the 90's and 0's

  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ William Small Band-aid

    I find this exceedingly low embarrassment threshold that some have to be really curious

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭ Dickie10

    now that im in my mid 30s and have a love for all types of music , recently really got into 80s alternatve music like morrisey, depeche mode etc. i think we always wre behind britain in catering for all types of music /comedy /arts in general. like in UK most average cities had lots of music 'clubs' , like small bars and even ran down places that had a bar but it was music was the selling point. just looking at music documentaries from late 60s to mid 90s these were breeding grounds for everyone from the Beatles to David Bowie to Boy George to Elton John to Queen, like in this new Ireland where on earth can anyone say you would wander in off the street to a dingy bar/venue and hear a new band of youngsters like many music moguls and agents did in the 70s and 80s Britain, no wonder we may never see bands or musicans like that again and just get made on TV boybands and girlbands. this is a serious thing for irish life, like its probabaly the reason we dont have any more U2s or the like of phil Lynnott. Surely teenagers still want to be musicans and rock stars? but where would they ever get the chance again ? what of DJs in the dance music scene, maybe theres a case for smaller type nightclubs , it dosent need to be 400 capacity does it? A friend of mine has just taken over his uncles pub in a decent sized town 35k population near dublin and has definitley gone for alternative ideas such as chess competitions in beer garden and table football games, hes looking to comedy nights midweek for people to get up and have a go, i think its a great idea but would have thought with the rise of the hipster in Ireland we would have lots of these type of places , seems not or do we? i think its a great chance now in post pandemic time were entering.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,869 ✭✭✭✭ whisky_galore