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Tory MP stabbed to death while conducting surgery for constituents



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Cyrus Wailing Sheriff

    Crazy, what was the motive I wonder.

  • Registered Users Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭ Claw Hammer

    That MP must have upset the attacker in some way!

  • Registered Users Posts: 30,602 ✭✭✭✭ Penn

    May not have been the MP himself, but just due to Government decisions/policies. Hard to know at this stage.

  • Registered Users Posts: 9,000 ✭✭✭ igCorcaigh

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭ tdf7187

    He died? Jeez, this is not good. Second British MP to be murdered in the course of performing their work in last 5 years.

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭ Faugheen

    He was a staunch Eurosceptic and Brexiteer, so wouldn't be surprised if it's somehow related to that.

    If it is, then that would be two elected officials whose lives have been lost by a populist box-ticking exercise.

    It's a disgrace regardless if this happening to any elected official. Hope whoever carried it out is caught. Domestic terrorism at its finest.

  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 61,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭ L1011

    He had numerous strong views with people with equally strong opposite views; some contrary to what you'd expect from someone on the right of the Tories. Nothing that should ever lead to being murdered, but if it was based on his views it may not have been Brexit related.

  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]

    They have the guy who did it, only 25.

  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ Jake Yummy Narcotic

    That's so fucked up

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,033 ✭✭✭✭ Tell me how

    Horrific news.

    And as pointed out, second time in 5 years it has happened in UK.

  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Clyde Itchy Semifinal

    Awful news. RIP.

  • Registered Users Posts: 3,805 ✭✭✭ enricoh

    The woman mp that was stabbed before, was that a pro Brexit head that killed her?

  • Registered Users Posts: 14,618 ✭✭✭✭ banie01

    The motive here and even more importantly the reaction of the Tory Government are vital to ensuring a continuing and functioning Democracy in the UK IMO.

    1. Is this a politically motivated attack?

    2. Was it a mental health breakdown?

    3. If it is political, was the motive left wing or right wing?

    4. If the motivation was left wing? Was it a blow against a perceived nascent Tory perpetual government, what was the trigger how can it be countered? There are already significant concerns re: the new Tory voting bill and restrictions that some on the fringe left see as a power grab. If this was the motivation? What is the reaction?

    5. If the motivation was right wing? What further steps is the perpetrator hoping to achieve? Is his attack a blow against a government he believes isn't being aggressive or proactive enough in securing the Union, being British, protecting borders and being Uber Brexity?

    The reaction to any of the potential scenarios is something that needs to be measured and cautious. Any kneejerk of restrictions or additional legislation could do damage to what is already a delicate political balance in the UK IMO.

    There is a real danger of an incompetent Tory administration attempting to spin this attack into a Reichstag moment and whilst the murder of any Public Representative is a tragedy. It must not be used as fuel for a moral panic and power grab.

    I also find it quite troubling that in the time of "Brexit" since 2014, 2 sitting MPs have been murdered, versus 4 in the entirety of the troubles when HMG and Tory and Unionist MPs in particular were targets of paramilitaries.

    RIP to Sir David Amess and I do hope that this doesn't signal a restriction of British democracy.

  • Registered Users Posts: 13,758 ✭✭✭✭ Beechwoodspark

    RIP to the MP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭ RandomViewer

    If anything it's the opposite, people just ignore them, one time it was a position of status now they are perceived as little more than oddballs and petty criminals, People talk a lot but when it comes down to it that's all it is ,talk,

    Condemn what happened to Mr Amess totally

  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭ Faugheen

    Nobody is saying otherwise. One poster read one line of one post and started spewing shite.

  • Registered Users Posts: 37,535 ✭✭✭✭ Itssoeasy

    Social media for the good that it does(and yes it does good), it’s given every gobshite a platform to say whatever they want and it’s on the same level as everyone else.

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭ dudley72

    Look across social media and even here at the obsession with Leo, he does anything and it is all over the web. He went to a concert and its all over the media.

  • Registered Users Posts: 20,033 ✭✭✭✭ Tell me how

    First paragraph has no basis in reality.

    Hopefully we never see a TD or any elected official attacked but if it does happen it won't because they were comfortable with shaking hands with a few people. That aside, most of the commentary we see about TD's is saying how they are so useless they shouldn't be in the job in the first place.

  • Registered Users Posts: 57,016 ✭✭✭✭ FrancieBrady

    RIP to the MP.

  • Registered Users Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭ AllForIt

    Oh believe me there is no faux outrage going on from me in this matter of a brutal murder of man with a wife and 5 children . If one isn't genuinely outraged about something like this what can one be outraged about.

    You were the one that described him as a' staunch' Brexiteer as your first thought which I'm certain you didn't mean as a positive, so don't be pinning this left/right tit for tat thing on me.

    I've never heard of him but from what's been said he was one of those well liked MP's across the political divide.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭ HerrKapitan

    Let me guess, politicians will not have to deal with the public in the future. Introduced just in time for further draconian restrictions and lockdowns arriving later in the year.

    The event was already presented to us very quickly, even before he passed away. Perfect theatre.