GTA Trilogy Remaster: GTA III, Vice City and San Andreas

MOR316

Saw all the songs that are missing...

Nah, **** that. Need Billie Jean for Vice City and Running Down a Dream for SA, IMO.

Iseedeadpixels

Did they replace any of the songs?

Vicxas

List of the songs in the remaster:

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/gta-trilogy-definitive-edition-music-list/

Dr. Bre

Can’t find the trilogy on the ps store - bizarre

Iseedeadpixels

Bought it this morning before work so it will install......Looking at the screenshots has me worried, hoping the patch fixes some of these issues.

RocketRaccoon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118149409#Comment_118149409

Showing up as missing for me through the app

innuendo141

The GTA reddit page has this painted as a disaster. Same bugs as in the mobile ports. I'm still getting it anyway. Booted up my PS2 last night to make sure it still runs for when I want to play the real McCoy!

To the folks who've been able to start playing at midnight, what platform are you on?

dasdog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118149775#Comment_118149775

PS4 but saw this might explain it's absence

The #GTATrilogy Definitive Edition has been removed from the PlayStation Store as Sony set it live too early. It will go live again as it should have done at 3pm GMT along with Xbox and PC.

Exclamation Marc

The massive volume of soundtrack losses are inexcusable. For a multi-billion dollar company, Rockstar could easily have renewed licenses for the majority of the songs if they ponied up the money for them but the reality is that they didn't want to. This was a conscious decision for the majority of music.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118149808#Comment_118149808

Ah that makes total sense then! Annoying if you hadn't preloaded up to this point

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118149957#Comment_118149957

Agreed completely, I get the feeling the omission of Billie Jean had more to it than just high licence fee demands though. The others I'm surprised about.

jill_valentine

Having a custom radio channel like the old Xbox/PC release seems like a no brainer don't ask/don't tell workaround, is it too much to hope they did that again?

ancapailldorcha

It adds a shoddy air to the thing if they ditch chunks of the soundtrack. Remakes/remasters are supposed to enhance the originals. Vice City was the first post-PS1 GTA I ever played and the soundtrack was a big part of that.

johnny_ultimate

I have some sympathy when it comes to developers trying to relicense soundtracks of this size (ditto the recent THPS remasters). Music rights by all accounts can grow exponentially more expensive and complicated as time goes on. While I've no doubt Rockstar have a healthy and substantial warchest, the problem is often more complex than simply throwing money at the issue. And even a remaster of this scale and profile won't have infinite funds available.

None of this is ideal, of course, and like many things licensing law should be properly reformed to ensure rights don't expire or whatnot. Musicians also deserve to get paid when their game features in a rerelease. But I don't think it's entirely unreasonable for a developer to say no if the price is too high or the conditions too strict. If they're just being cheapskates, that's a different matter.

RocketRaccoon

Jesus lads, open YouTube and stick on Billie Jean and be done with the complaining.

SureYWouldntYa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118150569#Comment_118150569

It's not the same tho

The joy in it is randomly coming across it when flicking through the radio stations

Same in real life, sure we can play whatever whenever on Youtube/Spotify, but there's something more joyous about a song you like coming on the radio randomly

johnny_ultimate

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118150640#Comment_118150640

Write a computer script that’ll have Billie Jean blast out of your phone at entirely random times of the day and night. Odds are it’ll eventually happen when you’re playing GTA. Sorted 🙃

Penn

Some of the screenshots of minor characters definitely don't look great in terms of how the remaster was done, but the cities look fantastic. Overall I'm sure it won't have that big an effect on the games.

Besides, the characters always had weird janky monkey arms anyway.

SureYWouldntYa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118150734#Comment_118150734

Modern solution to a modern problem!

RocketRaccoon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118150640#Comment_118150640

It's not really a deal breaker though is it?

I saw a video of San Andreas where he takes a plane into the air and you see the entire island, crystal clear to the distance. It looked like a little toy island.

I know the island technically is very small compared to modern GTA but it looks ridiculous without fogging.

martyos121

As someone who was concerned about the soundtrack, I’m actually happy enough with the final result. I was expecting a lot more to be cut, and some are forgetting that nearly all of the big hitters in Vice City and San Andreas are still in there.

I couldn’t be happier that K-Rose is almost untouched. The best radio station in any GTA, ever. 🙂

lee_baby_simms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118150913#Comment_118150913

Amos Moses by Jerry Reed is a banger.

Vicxas

On a console, do yourself a favour and turn off aim assist.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118150913#Comment_118150913

Can't wait to drive around Red County in a flatbed listening to All My Ex's Live in Texas!

Jordan 199

K-Rose. Memories are flooding back now.

wotzgoingon

I'm getting flash backs of being arrested by the cops and dumped in baller territory. 🤣

wotzgoingon

You need to get a hair cut CJ, it's embarrassing being seen with you.

dreamers75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118150640#Comment_118150640

Old PC versions had a custom radio station where you could just drag and drop in Mp3s.

I am sure the PC version will have very similiar but for all stations, god bless the unreal engine, pretty sure we be driving Thomas the Tank Engine by the end of the day.

MOR316

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118150006#Comment_118150006

If you're referring to the allegations, it was removed due to licencing reasons, long before any allegations was made.

Besides, the two lads had their cases thrown out for telling porkies so what's the problem?

MOR316

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118150569#Comment_118150569

Nah, it's not the same.

You need it as soon as he starts up the scooter at the start. One of my best gaming experiences. So simple yet so effective

Found I had to bump the contrast down a fair bit in SA

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118151599#Comment_118151599

Well tbh I was more thinking of the long legal battle with his estate assuming his song royalties came under that, I should been more specific/careful with my wording!

quokula

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118150559#Comment_118150559

Yeah agree with this, music licensing can be hugely expensive and complicated. By all accounts Rockstar have managed to relicense about 80 - 90% of the music which is a pretty good achievement in all honesty. Yes, Rockstar have lots of money, but that doesn't mean they can just throw unlimited funds at greedy music labels to the point where the game can't recoup its dev costs. It's a shame they didn't bulk the collection back out with some different songs to replace the licenses they couldn't get though.

A lot of initial reports do seem to suggest the game is a car crash overall though. I'm going to reserve judgement until I try it as the internet can overreact to things at times, and one off out of context screenshots can make pretty much any game look terrible. Fortunately San Andreas is on Gamepass so I can decide for myself, if I was paying up front I'd have more reservations.

Zero-Cool

Had a lash of 3, my God, the nostalgia! It's so quick and responsive, Game FM is as banging as ever, the missions are nice and quick, just a pure joy to play... except the shooting, that still sucks. Gonna have to turn off aim assist completely as it targets everyone except the person i actually want to shoot. Can't wait to try VC and SA tonight.

EoinMcLovin

https://youtu.be/lEQ4XD8KuUs

https://youtu.be/QYAMp13Yi04

https://youtu.be/H4rYVsJ4v9Y

comparison videos from Rockstar

Exclamation Marc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118151823#Comment_118151823

That's not accurate on Rockstar relicensing 80-90% of the music. Most of that music was still in license for use so would not need to be renegotiated. I would hazard an educated guess that they just stuck with what they still had under license and didn't bother pursuing renegotiating for the expired licenses.

Royale with Cheese

Loaded up San Andreas there and had a drive around, wasn't good for me. Texture pop up in like I remember in the PS2 days, more obvious driving round the countryside than the city. It's fine for something on gamepass but I wouldn't be spending €60 on these.

wotzgoingon

First impressions of GTA SA. They didn't change much tbh. I'm still going to play it as it is kinda free with gamepass. It wasn't a massive overhaul at all which I suppose was mentioned already leading up to it's release. I don't know if it's my TV but some of the screen is beyond the bezzels. I looked in settings and there is nothing you can change. Anyone else see that?

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118151299#Comment_118151299

*goes to barbershop*

*suddenly grows afro*

MOR316

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118151755#Comment_118151755

Nah, I downloaded it back in 2017 and many more songs were missing. Run To You had gone. Googled it and they just didn't bother with the licencing for certain songs

bennyl10

Played some vice city on PS5

no real issues, FM is great, doesn’t look all that shabby.

more than happy!

Zero-Cool

I forgot how tricky some of the missions in 3 were but then also the blast of memory you get in certain situations like Turismo race instantly reminded me to get to the auto shop and steal epic Banshee for the race. I don't remember the vehicles being this bubble though and having so little time to escape from a burning car.

Gonna plough on with 3 as I'm loving it but will be hard to come back to it after VC and SA.

dasdog

I haven't even loaded VC/SA yet - really enjoying everything about III. It was a difficult game - I never managed to complete the last level on a PS2. Seems easier with the map/tracker/shooting/weapon cycling. Loving it though. Soundtrack is untouched too with some of my personal favourites K-JAH (Scientist), MSX FM (Moving Shadow) and Double Clef FM.

jill_valentine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118153303#Comment_118153303

True at the time too, I have to say. I could switch between VC and SA well enough, but they were such quantum leaps ahead of GTA3 I could never go back. I do miss that one dramatic bit of classical music, I forget the name, but I used to park the car in the rain just to listen to it. :D

Hands down, the funniest radio presenter was Mary-Beth Maybell on K-Rose in San Andreas though, she was brilliant. And being able to drive around the desert at night listening to Country would almost give you an appreciation for it.

Mary-Beth has a random non sequiter about someone trying to drown her, and her getting them back "years later", with no further context or elaboration, that always made me laugh. A lady Mad Lad for the ages.

wotzgoingon

I forgot how everyone is on a deathwish in SA. They dive out in front when your driving close to them and then cars catching fire and you only have a few seconds to get away from it before it blows up. Ammo is another thing I keep running low on. In GTA V I never bought ammo apart from one or two mission you go to the gun shop outside of there you could go on rampages and still not run out. Regarding running low on ammo I always collected the uzi and had a tonne of ammo then I done the Russian mission with tonnes of shooting finish the mission back with no ammo and have to build it up again annoying.

For SA my instinct is to run to the body armour and pistol every time I go back to grove street and save. The armour is under the bridge in the storm drain behind Sweet's house and the pistol is at the back of the house on the left.

wotzgoingon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118153822#Comment_118153822

I have been doing that and it's a UZI not a handgun but once I done the Russian mission with all the shooting. Finished the mission and I was back to having damn all bullets left for the UZI and now I have to repeat what I spent ages doing as in collecting them.

wotzgoingon

Sorry reading through that post I sound like I'm having a go at you didn't mean that at all.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118153839#Comment_118153839

The hand gun is behind Sweet's house the UZI is under the bridge south east of Carl's house, you can also get a shovel in Ryders back garden.