What are your thoughts on the fertiliser price s for 2022

jaymla627

Beef barons attempt at growing spring barley beside us with no fert and solely relying on 4000 gallons of finisher slurry hauled on a 30km round trip, this is rented ground hard to fathom why he bothered attempting this

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cjpm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119144061#Comment_119144061

Will be an expensive lesson!!

corazon

Fertilizers Piling Up at Brazil Ports Signal Further Price Drop

Stocks at Paranagua and Santos are full after record imports

Delayed purchases may create inland transportation bottlenecks

ByTatiana Freitas and Tarso Veloso Ribeiro

June 7, 2022, 11:23 AM EDT

A glut of fertilizers at the biggest Brazilian ports signals that the price of the nutrients may have to drop further before farmers start buying.

In Paranagua, private warehouses reached theirs maximum storage capacity of 3.5 million tons, according to Luiz Teixeira da Silva, Paranagua’s operations director. A terminal operated by VLI Logistics, one of the two at Santos port that store fertilizers, is also full, according to people with knowledge of the matter who asked not to be named as the information isn’t public. 

Fertilizer prices soared to records after the war in Ukraine sparked fears of a shortage. Brazil imports nearly 85% of its fertilizer and Russia is the main origin. As supplies have normalized, prices have declined over the past weeks, but farmers still aren’t buying. They are waiting for further price cuts, according to Marina Cavalcante, an analyst at Bloomberg’s Green Markets.

Prices drop since April amid weak demand, ample near-term supply

“Farmers have the expectation that prices will keep falling after declines last week and in the previous one,” she said. “So they’ll wait for further decreases to buy.”

Brazil is the world’s biggest shipper of several crops, including soybeans. Farmers can delay their purchases until the eve of the soybean seeding in September. But if they all wait too long, a last-minute rush could lead to inland transportation bottlenecks that may leave some of them empty-handed. 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-07/fertilizers-piling-up-at-brazil-ports-signal-further-price-drop

Bass Reeves

Here is an interesting one. Urea has only a six month shelf life. Product over six month from manufacturing should be considered waste

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/farmers-warned-about-shelf-life-date-on-urea-based-fertiliser/

straight

CF fertiliser plant in UK shutting down due to energy costs

alps

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177757#Comment_119177757

Definitely not correct.

Farm leader searching for something to make himself relevant

If anyone want to send discounted 6 month old product this way...send it on..will pay commission..

GrasstoMilk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119177757#Comment_119177757

Protected urea has 6 month shelf life, nomal urea is fine

ginger22

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119178567#Comment_119178567

but that only relates to the protective coating. It is the same as unprotected after 6 months, fertilizer value remains the same.

Siamsa Sessions

CAN drops €100/ton according to this week’s Journal. Don’t all rush at once!

whelan2

Got a price a good bit lower than the glanbia price quoted in that article, not off glanbia. Going to buy a bit to have in storage

Mooooo

Urea fine. Protected urea not so much. Some of the cheaper 18's and cut swards have a version of protected urea as well but not the approved version apparently.

Anyone get quotes for 18. 6.12 got one at 940

Grueller

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119179123#Comment_119179123

Lower than the €860?

whelan2

Yes alot lower

straight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119179259#Comment_119179259

Is he getting warm

whelan2

No. Under 800. I think hold on for a bit . Over 850 is too dear

straight

I didn't actually realise it was so expensive. I bought CAN before the war and it was a rob at 700 euro. Forgot about it after that and just trying to stretch what I have.

Wildsurfer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119179123#Comment_119179123

How long in storage, for next year?

whelan2

Ye will hopefully keep in shed until next spring. Still have some of what I bought earlier to use. It used to be a grainstore, so should be OK there

alps

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119179565#Comment_119179565

Still one bag left here from last year...standing at €265..😱

Grueller

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119181773#Comment_119181773

Spread the last bag I had at that price on Monday. The rest came in at €685

Reggie.

Fert usage way down this year. What's with the growth I'm wondering.

Fine Day

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119185756#Comment_119185756

It will be from now on we will see grass growth dropping off. Will many be out with the shaker to encourage it on abit. Lads with cows will have no choice but too. From what I see around here most people are putting it out to near enough the same as last year including myself, granted I probably will be back abit come the end of the year. Nice showers about today wash down the slurry and fert I have out. Grass is getting tight hopefully it will tip on again. Light land here so dry weather does not suit us for long periods.

kevthegaff

Weather has been good, most lads held off on jan and Feb applications and are using urea instead of can and cut sward. People are respecting slurry more and are reducing to 20 units an acre rather than a bag

Packrat

A wet summer might save a lot of lads.. although its depressing for anyone trying to save hay.

Which is what I think we're getting.

We're spoiled with dry ones recently but grass growth was poor.

What ever about fertiliser prices. Won’t meal be 600 a ton next autumn?

Fine Day

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119185989#Comment_119185989

There is alot of grain left from last year unsold in Ukraine. If that could get moving then that should bring down prices but if it they flooded the market then that may kill the prices for this harvest.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119186043#Comment_119186043

They aren't expected to get it out though.

They were going through the logistics of it. Epic, and never mind it's a war zone.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119186043#Comment_119186043

I don’t think it will get moving quickly though. A lot of that has been lost as well.

Wheat is up 50% year on year. Will have to be a lot more expensive in the autumn. Even consider shipping costs. Turkey is looking to demine a section of the black sea to get grain out. Of course it’s Russia again negotiating with Turkey.

All the big exporters are out of play to a degree or completely

Say my name

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119185756#Comment_119185756

Higher CO2 levels aid increased growth. More lime spread and indexes levelled up.

Grazing ground here I'm at 15 units N on half and 30 units N on other half so far this year.

Never in my life have I been able to achieve this before. How?

Foliar spraying, seaweed, fulvic acid, molasses, (you can laugh ), magnetised water, and now the most recent addition - Humic acid.

I spread a bag and a half of 10,10,20, gypsum, sea shell, burnt lime, also. And using a bit of slurry, dung so far.

Surprised what can be achieved when one applies themselves. I've carbon measurements from last year and I'll soil sample again next winter to compare for my own curiosity. Hopefully I reckon should increase.

I've a plan maybe depends to feed, feed grade humic acid from a dept approved company to the cows mostly to get more value and carbon, nutrient retention, enhancement, methane reduction. But that still depends on factors.

"When you step off the beaten track it's surprising what's there".

mahoney_j

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119186176#Comment_119186176

Savage interesting as always …..have u tried spraying milk to grass yet 🤔🤔🤔one or 2 on Twitter at it and from I’m seeing results seem impressive …..really really interested in this but I’ve no sprayer and am on the hunt for one to try some of these foliar applications